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Proceeding contribution from Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour) in the House of Lords on Monday, 16 June 2008. It occurred during Debates on delegated legislation on Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order 2008.


Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order 2008

My Lords, in so far as the Scottish Executive might be faced with that problem, so is the rest of the United Kingdom—and, as the directive applies across all European states, so are all those states. As the noble Duke knows only too well from his extensive work on the Climate Change Bill, there are costs to the control of pollution. If he is identifying that the order contains an element of potential detriment to Scottish business in terms of additional cost, I cannot deny that. However, if the United Kingdom Parliament retained the powers, the costs would still be borne. In fact, I fear they would be greater because there would be two administrative authorities dealing with the issue: the Scottish Ministers, who would have the powers that they exercise at present, and the British Government, with their powers under the Energy Act. The administrative costs would be greater as well, as would the complexity for the industries concerned. The noble Duke ought not to worry greatly about that. The introduction of energy efficiency measures might have short-term costs—they are bound to because of the cost of the installation of the necessary processes—but they bring long-term benefits. We all recognise, as we did with the Climate Change Bill, that improvements in energy efficiency benefit those who introduce them, and that those who do so early stand to benefit over those who are a little tardy. We ought not to entertain too many anxieties on that score, although I understand entirely the noble Duke’s anxiety. I am a little less certain about the rather broader issues that the noble Lord, Lord Maclennan, brought in about the question of the Calman commission and its consideration of devolution. It is due to produce an interim report by the end of the year. Whether we are in a position to prejudge what it might say about the 15 orders—16 if this one, which introduces that element of flexibility, is passed by both Houses—and whether it will be critical of that process or laudatory and encouraging of it, is not for me to say from the limited position I occupy at the Dispatch Box on this order. However, I assure the noble Lord, Lord Maclennan, who as ever is well informed on these matters, that it is an issue that the Calman commission will certainly be considering. I hope I have assuaged the anxieties of the noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, who as ever is zealous in his concern about the interests of—I give way to the noble Baroness.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
702 c868-9 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Conservation Climate change Devolution Enforcement EU law Energy Legislative competence Industry Functions Pollution control Ministers Scotland Factories Scottish Environment Protection Agency Scottish Government
Legislation
Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of functions to the Scottish Ministers etc) Order 2008
Link
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