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Counter-Terrorism Bill

I am delighted that the noble Earl has made that point. When we have our wider debate about DNA, it will be absolutely valid. I am sure that the parents and loved ones of the many people who have been murdered and raped, with the perpetrators found only because of DNA, would argue exactly the same. However, I am equally aware of all the other arguments to do with civil liberties. We need a much broader debate, because there are many different perspectives. I accept exactly what the noble Earl has said, but there are other sides to the argument and we need that broader debate. However, I could not agree more with some of what he said. Clause 10 agreed to. Clause 11 agreed to. Clause 12 [Power to take fingerprints and samples: Northern Ireland]: [Amendments Nos. 18 to 20 not moved.] Clause 12 agreed to. Clauses 13 to 17 agreed to. Clause 18 [Material not subject to existing statutory restrictions]: