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Proceeding contribution from Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative) in the House of Lords on Thursday, 15 March 2012. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Scotland Bill.


Scotland Bill

I am sorry that my noble friend is getting bored with this, but he has not actually answered my question. Let me put it in another way. Is he saying that if this House was minded to see the inclusion in the Bill of both these taxes—let us stick to the one we are on at the moment, the aggregates tax, although the development land tax had the support of those on both Benches—that whatever the strength of the arguments that are put, or even if this House were perhaps to vote in that direction, although that does not particularly likely, he would resist it, but that it could be conceded as part of a negotiation with the Scottish Parliament in order to get its legislative consent, which is not required by statute? If he is saying that, that gives us considerable cause for concern, because what that says—and my noble friend talks about wasting time—is that it does not really matter what we say or do, or what arguments we advance. In the end, what goes into the legislation will be determined by a backroom deal between Ministers and the First Minister on the basis of a legislative consent Motion that, right at the beginning of our debate, my noble friend refused to say would allow the Bill to go forward if it was accepted. It is a very simple question: will the line that my noble friend has given be held in the negotiations with the Scottish Parliament? It is a relevant question, because the committee that has looked at this wants it included in the Bill.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
736 c499 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Criminal proceedings Devolved matters Armed forces Aviation Devolution Civil service Air passenger duty Borrowing Aggregates levy Land EU law Income tax Legislative competence Excise duties Landfill Legislation Domicil Large goods vehicle drivers Ministerial powers Powers Members Public expenditure Ministers Public finance Scotland Social security benefits Scottish Parliament Taxation Tax rates and bands Supreme Court Self-employed Development land tax Universal credit Legislative consent motions
Legislation
Scotland Bill 2010-12
Link
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