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Legislative debate on Thursday, 13 October 2005, in the House of Commons, led by Hazel Blears. The answering member was Dominic Grieve.

Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism

Draft SI on Terrorism Act 2000 (proscribed organisations) (amendment (SI 2005/2892)). Debate on motion to approve. Agreed to on question.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
437 c466-84 
Session
2005-06
Department
Home Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Dominic Grieve | 437 c479 (Link to this contribution) : I do not think that the hon. Gentleman is trivialising the matter at all. Indeed, the points that ...
Alan Simpson | 437 c479 (Link to this contribution) I reject that. I return to the basis of my argument, which is that the House is trivialising the pro...
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Mike Gapes | 437 c479 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is in danger of undermining the validity of his case. I should like to cite an exampl...
Alan Simpson | 437 c478-9 (Link to this contribution) I am well aware of that. We might also look at Harakat-ul-Jihad-ul-Islami, an organisation originall...
John McDonnell | 437 c478 (Link to this contribution) As the chair of the Socialist Campaign Group, I should like to say that, so far, there has been no i...
Alan Simpson | 437 c477-8 (Link to this contribution) That was precisely the point that I was about to make. When we debated the initial proscribed list, ...
Simon Hughes | 437 c477 (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman will anticipate that I support his view of the process; it is entirely compatib...
Alistair Carmichael | 437 c475-6 (Link to this contribution) As became apparent from the interventions on the Minister, it is inevitable that in dealing with suc...
John McDonnell | 437 c474-5 (Link to this contribution) The emphasis of our debate, in the past and today, is on the care that is needed in the process of p...
Hazel Blears | 437 c483-4 (Link to this contribution) Any organisation that provided or displayed support, or any individual who displayed support, for an...
John McDonnell | 437 c483 (Link to this contribution) When we come to the debate on the Terrorism Bill, proscription will be on the grounds of statements ...
Hazel Blears | 437 c482-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to hon. Members for the tone and way in which they have responded to the presentation ...
Dominic Grieve | 437 c483 (Link to this contribution) I perhaps did not touch on one matter in my speech, but I would be grateful for the Minister’s respo...
Hazel Blears | 437 c483 (Link to this contribution) Yes, and I hope to say a word or two about the Terrorism Bill before I conclude.
Simon Hughes | 437 c480 (Link to this contribution) I share the hon. Gentleman’s views on this issue, and I also happen to be a member of the Christian ...
Alan Simpson | 437 c479-80 (Link to this contribution) That is pretty much the point on which I want to end. I do not want to focus on the case for or agai...
Patrick Mercer | 437 c480-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for being able to make a small contribution on the most important and dangerous subjec...
Alan Simpson | 437 c480 (Link to this contribution) I want to finish on this point. We have a duty to ourselves to insist that the way in which we appro...
Hazel Blears | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) Not all of the organisations in the order are on the UN list.
Hazel Blears | 437 c473 (Link to this contribution) Five appeals were initially made to the Home Secretary, who dismissed them all. Three appeals went f...
Dominic Grieve | 437 c473-4 (Link to this contribution) I reassure the Minister that the official Opposition will support the order. These are difficult are...
Hazel Blears | 437 c472-3 (Link to this contribution) The criteria are not as rigid as the hon. Gentleman suggests. The groups on the list are of the high...
Simon Hughes | 437 c473 (Link to this contribution) Have any of the 25 organisations that have been proscribed to date appealed either to the Home Secre...
Hazel Blears | 437 c472 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that my hon. Friend has acknowledged that, where people have assets, it is important to...
Julian Lewis | 437 c472 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is being extremely generous in giving way. A few moments ago, she said that all the org...
Hazel Blears | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) I am not aware of the detail on that point. Some organisations may be on the UN list, but not on our...
Alan Simpson | 437 c471-2 (Link to this contribution) : I understand the sensitivity surrounding the extent to which the Minister can discuss what we curr...
Speaker | 437 c469 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Lady must correct her use of language. She is not asking questions of me, but of her...
Tobias Ellwood | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) What co-ordination is there between the security services? To develop my earlier question, how much ...
John McDonnell | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) It would be helpful if, without endangering sources and so on, the Government published more informa...
Hazel Blears | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) I understand why my hon. Friend wants to see that information, but I cannot undertake to publish the...
Helen Goodman | 437 c469 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am sure that what the Minister said about the IJU is correct, but ...
Hazel Blears | 437 c469-70 (Link to this contribution) If an organisation is proscribed, anyone seeking either to become a member or to give it support wou...
Stewart Hosie | 437 c470 (Link to this contribution) A number of organisations on the list have UK-based supporters but no official representation here. ...
Hazel Blears | 437 c470-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is pressing me to stray into inappropriate areas, given the risk of revealing int...
Helen Goodman | 437 c469 (Link to this contribution) Before you come on to that point, I would like to ask you another question about the Uzbeks.
Hazel Blears | 437 c469 (Link to this contribution) The IJU is proscribed by both the US and the UN, so other countries have concerns about that organis...
Hazel Blears | 437 c468 (Link to this contribution) The information that we receive is from our own security and intelligence services. Obviously, we ha...
Adam Price | 437 c468 (Link to this contribution) : Have the Government either sought or received intelligence from the Uzbek Government on this matte...
Hazel Blears | 437 c468 (Link to this contribution) I have tried to outline that the first requirement is that a group should be concerned in terrorism,...
David Heath | 437 c468 (Link to this contribution) I want to return to the Islamic Jihad Union. It is the organisation that causes some of us concerns ...
Hazel Blears | 437 c469 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important and fair point. When we face the threat of international terro...
Hazel Blears | 437 c468 (Link to this contribution) I can give hon. Members the reassurance that they are seeking, as the case on the IJU is based on ou...
Hazel Blears | 437 c467-8 (Link to this contribution) There is a range of activities that all these organisations will be undertaking. We have attempted i...
Dominic Grieve | 437 c467 (Link to this contribution) Reading the note as carefully as I could, it appeared to me that in respect of the Islamic Jihad Uni...
Julian Lewis | 437 c468 (Link to this contribution) I do not have any difficulty with what the Minister has said so far. For the purpose of clarity, I a...
Hazel Blears | 437 c466-7 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That the draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscribed Organisations) (Amendment) Order 2005, ...
Adam Price | 437 c467 (Link to this contribution) I question the Minister specifically on the Uzbek organisation that appears in the list. According t...
Hazel Blears | 437 c467 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman raises an important point. I took a particular look at the organisation to which ...
Simon Hughes | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister indicate whether any organisations on the UN list are not included in today’s list...
Alan Simpson | 437 c476-7 (Link to this contribution) I, too, doubt whether there will be a Division on the order. However, if there were, I would find it...
Simon Hughes | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister tell us whether all the organisations in the order are on the UN list of proscribe...
Tobias Ellwood | 437 c468-9 (Link to this contribution) I wanted to pick up the need to work together. It is all very well the UK keeping lists of outlawed ...
Alan Simpson | 437 c469 (Link to this contribution) Do other EU countries include the IJU on a proscribed list? Concerns about the Uzbek Government woul...
Hazel Blears | 437 c471 (Link to this contribution) As well as receiving advice from the individual security agencies, the Home Secretary receives advic...
Subjects
Disclosure of information Internet Proscribed organisations Terrorism Security South Asia Islamic Jihad
Legislation
Terrorism Act 2000 (Proscribed Organisations) (Amendment) Order 2005
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