Debate on bill on Friday, 11 November 2005, in the House of Commons, led by Mark Lazarowicz. The answering member was Malcolm Wicks.
Climate Change and Sustainable Energy Bill
Climate Change and Sustainable Energy Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on question and committed to a Standing Committee.
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- Parliamentary proceeding
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- 439 c583-647
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- 2005-06
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- Department of Trade and Industry
- Legislative stage
- Second reading
- Procedure
- Private members' bills proceedings
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
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Climate Change and Sustainable Energy Bill. Explanatory notes also published Bill 17-EN
Wednesday, 22 June 2005
Bills
House of Commons
- Proceeding contributions
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c583 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be read a Second time. I shall begin by declaring an interest. The Sus...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c584 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that the hon. Gentleman can persuade his district council about the reality more easily th...
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Robert Key | 439 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way so soon. Does he agree that local authorities hav...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c584 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a party political point, which he is entitled to do. I think that this Gove...
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Philip Hollobone | 439 c584 (Link to this contribution) Is not part of the problem with the climate change debate that those of us who want action to be tak...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c584 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. Had I waited a little longer to give way to my hon. Friend, I might have come to that partic...
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Ian Lucas | 439 c584 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the almost unique aspect of micro-generation is that it can give indi...
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Joan Walley | 439 c585 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the housing market renewal programme taking place throughout the coun...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c584-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way in a second if my hon. Friends will allow me to make a little progress. The key po...
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Eric Forth | 439 c585 (Link to this contribution) It would be helpful for the House if the hon. Gentleman could put this in context. Has he made any e...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c585 (Link to this contribution) I agree absolutely. One of the advantages of micro-generation is that as well as contributing to the...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c590 (Link to this contribution) I have had an indication, but let us see what the Minister says about that. The debate about how bes...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c589 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. That is why the proposal to make progress on renewable heat is particularly...
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Richard Ottaway | 439 c590 (Link to this contribution) I am in my place to support the hon. Gentleman’s Bill today. He is discussing the renewable heat obl...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should give way to the whole Liberal Democrat party.
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Robert Smith | 439 c589 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way and congratulate him on introducing the Bill. It represent...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) That provides a good example. One of the problems in the UK is that although we have some examples o...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c589 (Link to this contribution) It is for the Minister to speak for the Government, but I am pleased to say that the Department has ...
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Linda Gilroy | 439 c589 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on bringing his Bill before Parliament. On the renewable energy clause...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c589 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. One of the clauses indeed enables the Sec...
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Alistair Carmichael | 439 c589 (Link to this contribution) I particularly commend the hon. Gentleman for his words on community ownership and community benefit...
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Meg Hillier | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way and I congratulate him on introducing this important Bill. The...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) The detail on this subject is probably more a matter for my hon. Friend the Member for Southampton, ...
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John Hemming | 439 c590 (Link to this contribution) One difficulty is the fact that the Inland Revenue frequently seeks additional sources of revenue. F...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c590 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a very important point. If I can make some progress, I may be able to say a...
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John Barrett | 439 c590 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is being generous in giving way and I am delighted to be able to support his Bill...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c590-1 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely—the two go together. We could make immense savings through energy efficiency alone, and i...
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Emily Thornberry | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for allowing me to intervene in this debate, and may I add my voice to those ...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) I agree absolutely. In developing this Bill, I discovered that there is a real interest across the c...
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Philip Hollobone | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) : I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. One of the big attractions of micro-generation is that,...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely.
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David Lepper | 439 c587 (Link to this contribution) I represent a constituency where there is a great deal of interest in renewable energy, but many of ...
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David Heath | 439 c586 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way again; he has been very generous, and I agree wit...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c586-7 (Link to this contribution) I have heard of that concern, and it would be extremely unfortunate if there were a disincentive to ...
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Andrew Selous | 439 c586 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that this country will have the moral authority to tackle India and Ch...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c586 (Link to this contribution) I certainly support clause 2 of my Bill! Yes, we must ensure that we meet our international targets ...
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David Kidney | 439 c585-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned companies and manufacturing. Does he agree that the Bill gives us the oppor...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c586 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. One of the things that I have found out in working on the Bill, as I have developed my o...
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Janet Dean | 439 c585 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned rural areas. Does he see a role for parish and town councils in bringing co...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c585 (Link to this contribution) Indeed I do. Part of my Bill deals with the promotion of what is described as ““community energy””. ...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c585 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman will be aware that there are a whole range of estimates, but it has been su...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, the Mayor’s initiative is remarkable and provides lessons for other cities and communities t...
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Lord Stunell | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) I strongly support the Bill, but I hope that the hon. Gentleman recognises that this is not a London...
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David Kidney | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend was dealing with community energy. As my hon. Friend the Member for Burton (Mrs. Dean...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c587 (Link to this contribution) I shall have to decline the hon. Gentleman’s invitation, because to do so would take more time than ...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c587-8 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman that consistency is important, but if he does not mind, I shall have...
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Andrew Dismore | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, when it comes to practical action on the ground, cities are very muc...
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Nick Hurd | 439 c587 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on his Bill. Does he acknowledge that there is a structural proble...
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Theresa Villiers | 439 c594 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for being generous in giving way to me, having given way to so many hon. ...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c594 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. That takes me back to where I was a little while ago before I received a few more interv...
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Norman Baker | 439 c594-5 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith (Mark Lazarowicz) most sincerely on an...
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Norman Baker | 439 c595 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right: the Greenpeace document on centralising energy has much to comme...
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Norman Lamb | 439 c595 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware of the work commissioned by Greenpeace on the importance of local generation...
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Norman Baker | 439 c596 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, I will, and I think the figure is 77 per cent. Woking has done extraordinarily well, and I h...
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Nick Hurd | 439 c595-6 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman join me in welcoming the work of Woking borough council—a Conservative counc...
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Norman Baker | 439 c596 (Link to this contribution) I agree that we need to involve both the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly, as well as loca...
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Jenny Willott | 439 c596 (Link to this contribution) It is important, too, to involve the National Assembly for Wales and the Scottish Parliament in thes...
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Philip Hollobone | 439 c596 (Link to this contribution) We are in danger of confusing transmission of electricity, which goes over a long distance at high v...
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Sarah McCarthy-Fry | 439 c592 (Link to this contribution) I, too, welcome this Bill, especially its emphasis on reporting on targets. Does my hon. Friend agre...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c592 (Link to this contribution) As a Labour/Co-operative MP, I am certainly happy to pay tribute to us all individually, and to the ...
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Bernard Jenkin | 439 c592 (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate the hon. Gentleman on getting his Bill before the House; he is demonstrating th...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c592 (Link to this contribution) That is an interesting suggestion. Some companies already do so, and such an idea is worthy of consi...
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Oliver Letwin | 439 c591-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. Does he agree that one of the most encouraging things about thi...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c591 (Link to this contribution) I want to move on, but before I do so I give way to the right hon. Member for West Dorset (Mr. Letwi...
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David Lepper | 439 c592 (Link to this contribution) : In the spirit of the comments made by the right hon. Member for West Dorset (Mr. Letwin), will my ...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c592 (Link to this contribution) The more of a genuine consensus that we can achieve on the way forward—not only in Parliament, but a...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c592-3 (Link to this contribution) This is only a humble Back-Bench, private Member’s Bill, and there are limits to how much I can achi...
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Dawn Butler | 439 c593 (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate my hon. Friend on the Bill. Does he agree that there is growing interest, espec...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c593 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. The interesting suggestion has been made that every school in the country’s having a micro-g...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c594 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will, I am sure, understand that I want to concentrate on the positive things tha...
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Norman Lamb | 439 c594 (Link to this contribution) In response to an earlier intervention, the hon. Gentleman made an important point about the role th...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c594 (Link to this contribution) It is, indeed. Obviously, the Bill as it stands will encourage research, but my hon. Friend will app...
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Andrew Love | 439 c593-4 (Link to this contribution) I thought that might be the answer. I am interested in my hon. Friend’s speech—whenever he gets the...
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David Chaytor | 439 c593 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend on introducing this Bill. I want to point out that my local authority ...
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Norman Baker | 439 c596 (Link to this contribution) I can happily pass on to the hon. Gentleman a parliamentary answer detailing transmission losses fro...
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Norman Baker | 439 c597 (Link to this contribution) I agree. There is a wonderful opportunity for a win-win situation, with the production of less carbo...
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Greg Clark | 439 c597 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman’s constituency, like mine, has several farming communities that have experienced ...
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Norman Baker | 439 c598 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a valuable point and I hope that the Minister will bear it in mind when he ...
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Mike Weir | 439 c597-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentions Sir Ben Gill’s taskforce. Is he aware of other reports, including one by...
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Norman Baker | 439 c597 (Link to this contribution) It is always spooky when someone intervenes to make the next point in my speech, and I am grateful t...
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Danny Alexander | 439 c597 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that a further potential benefit of the Bill is that it would help to tack...
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Norman Baker | 439 c597 (Link to this contribution) I must say that I would rather live near a wind farm than a power station. It is right to try to loc...
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Lembit Opik | 439 c597 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that while wind power has its place, one of the great frustrations for peo...
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Lord Harper | 439 c626 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Betty Williams | 439 c626 (Link to this contribution) I fully support this excellent Bill, but will my hon. Friend undertake to hold close discussions wit...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c626 (Link to this contribution) Yes, indeed. My hon. Friend the Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith will also hold such discussion...
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Mike Weir | 439 c626 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister prepared to accept that the Bill does not commit him to the renewable fuel obligatio...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c626 (Link to this contribution) We can discuss that in Committee, as much of the Bill needs to be discussed. It has been brought to...
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Roberta Blackman-Woods | 439 c625 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to be able to put on the record my support for this Bill. Does the Minister accept that...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c625-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, which is why we have supported photovoltaics and hope to do so in future. It is still a relativ...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c625 (Link to this contribution) Our policy is this area is still under review, but I hope to announce a conclusion in two pages’ tim...
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Alistair Carmichael | 439 c625 (Link to this contribution) On Ofgem’s remit and possible changes to the Bill, the Minister and I have discussed informally the ...
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Bill Wiggin | 439 c623 (Link to this contribution) The fact that the Prime Minister makes the report is one of the most important aspects of the Bill. ...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c622-3 (Link to this contribution) That is right. The technologies are at the stage where television was, perhaps, in the first few mon...
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Martin Horwood | 439 c622 (Link to this contribution) I would like to add my support for the Bill. Does the Minister agree that one of the barriers to pop...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c622 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way one more time, and then make some progress.
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 439 c624 (Link to this contribution) I notice that the Minister has accepted the importance of finding ways and means of alleviating fuel...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c623-4 (Link to this contribution) The Government could not be more joined up, Mr. Deputy Speaker, on issues surrounding climate change...
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Norman Baker | 439 c623 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to take up too much time, but I want to return to the point about the Prime Minister. ...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c623 (Link to this contribution) The Prime Minister has led from the front both domestically and internationally on climate change. A...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c624-5 (Link to this contribution) Fuel poverty is a crucial issue. In the context of the Bill, one of the issues that I wish to explor...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c620 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, I need to give way once or twice but most of us are anxious to make some progress on movi...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c620 (Link to this contribution) Our Kyoto obligations are absolutely clear. Indeed, our own targets are absolutely clear and we are ...
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Nick Hurd | 439 c620 (Link to this contribution) I know that the Minister wants to get on, but he acknowledged the challenge of the 2010 CO2 reductio...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c621 (Link to this contribution) Yes, because I was able to get out a whole sentence of my speech and it would be extremely churlish ...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c621 (Link to this contribution) That is an important point. I shall touch on that briefly in a few moments. When we talk about micr...
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Jo Swinson | 439 c621 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the opportunity to put on record my support for the Bill, particularly its provisions on m...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c621-2 (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that business rate valuations do include renewable energy installations, but tha...
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David Heath | 439 c621 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister touch on the point that I raised with the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Lei...
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Eric Forth | 439 c619 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister aware that during the last three Fridays when we have discussed private Members’ Bil...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c619 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has not had much of an opportunity to intervene today, so I shall give way ...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c619 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith (Mark Lazarowicz) on present...
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Bill Wiggin | 439 c617-9 (Link to this contribution) We have had to wait eight years for the Government to develop such an energy strategy—perhaps that w...
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Speaker | 439 c617 (Link to this contribution) Order. The House takes a strong line on mobile phones going off while we are debating in the Chamber...
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Bill Wiggin | 439 c615-7 (Link to this contribution) We have had some supportive and positive interventions from the hon. Members for South-West Bedfords...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c620 (Link to this contribution) This House has a great tradition—I cited my own modest contribution to it—of making societal progres...
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Lord Harper | 439 c620 (Link to this contribution) If, as the Minister and the Government’s chief scientific adviser have said, climate change is the m...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c619-20 (Link to this contribution) I was not aware of that, because, unlike some, I like to spend some time in my constituency on Frida...
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Lord Harper | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that point.
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) Notwithstanding the excellent point that my right hon. Friend the Member for Bromley and Chislehurst...
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Lord Harper | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) That is a valuable point.
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Eric Forth | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) Is the assumption being made that the individual home owner would own the capital micro-generating e...
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Lord Harper | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a good point. One of the key points about the Bill is that, for it to wor...
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Eric Forth | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is conscious of the cost and accounting aspect of the measure. Has he considered whet...
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Lord Harper | 439 c614 (Link to this contribution) I am not entirely sure that that was a serious point. I have probably spent more time reading some o...
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Dan Rogerson | 439 c614 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman conscious of the contribution that unnecessary hot air may make to climate cha...
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Greg Clark | 439 c615 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to see this and the other Bill to be presented today progress. As we have had some long sp...
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Mark Hunter | 439 c614-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in favour of the Bill and to make a brief contribution to...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c612-3 (Link to this contribution) Although I am not an engineer, I believe that we currently have primarily a pull strategy. We pull e...
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Lord Harper | 439 c611-2 (Link to this contribution) I invite the Minister to comment on the good point that my right hon. Friend makes. Although I liste...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c612 (Link to this contribution) I briefly remind my hon. Friend that the beauty of Braintree district council’s proposal is that it ...
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Lord Harper | 439 c613 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that point. The hon. Member for Lewes also dealt with energy efficiency in his rem...
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Eric Forth | 439 c609-10 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will not be surprised to hear that that part of the Bill had caught my eye. I wonder ...
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Lord Harper | 439 c610-1 (Link to this contribution) We would be in a confused and unclear position. Perhaps the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Le...
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Eric Forth | 439 c610 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend thought about what would happen if the motions in the two Houses of Parliament to...
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Eric Forth | 439 c606-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether my hon. Friend will come to this at some stage in his speech, to which I shall...
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Lord Harper | 439 c607 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for that intervention. I am afraid that my background is based...
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Lord Harper | 439 c608 (Link to this contribution) Just before we were very valuably interrupted, I was touching on Government energy policy. The hon. ...
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Eric Forth | 439 c608-9 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend convinced that the costings of all the alternative methods of producing energy, su...
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Lord Harper | 439 c609 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a very good point. I do not think that that has been done. One of the con...
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Lord Harper | 439 c605-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point about Gordian tax complexity. One or two Members have already ment...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c606 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend—[Interruption]—my hon. Friend. He is not right hon. yet. I meant right ...
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Lord Harper | 439 c606 (Link to this contribution) I note that the Bill’s principle purpose is to consider the effects of climate change and the United...
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Eric Forth | 439 c605 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has already quoted what one if not two single-interest, publicly funded quangos have ...
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Nick Hurd | 439 c605 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for highlighting the Braintree example because it is hugely importan...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c605 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, my hon. Friend makes an excellent point. In fact, I had an opportunity to speak to the counc...
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Michael Fabricant | 439 c604 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an interesting point, and the intervention on him was particularly interesting....
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c604-5 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend is an expert on thatched coverage to the upper regions of one’s house,...
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Lord Harper | 439 c604 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend knows my concern—we discussed it earlier. The Braintree scheme is admirable, but ther...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c604 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. I believe that the scheme extends to loft insulation, as we...
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Eric Forth | 439 c603 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend, taking the interest that he does in the subject, is absolutely famili...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c603-4 (Link to this contribution) I very much appreciate my right hon. Friend’s guidance on this matter. I confess that I have not had...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c602-3 (Link to this contribution) I, too, commend the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith (Mark Lazarowicz) for his foresight i...
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Eric Forth | 439 c598 (Link to this contribution) Some stress has been laid this morning on targets and reports, but how impressed has the hon. Gentle...
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Philip Hollobone | 439 c600 (Link to this contribution) There are 81,000 voters, so I concede that 50 is a small percentage, but it is still the largest num...
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Bernard Jenkin | 439 c600-1 (Link to this contribution) The survey conducted by MORI for EDF to which my right hon. Friend the Member for Bromley and Chisle...
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Philip Hollobone | 439 c601 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that helpful intervention. I am disappointed that we should be forced to...
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Mike Weir | 439 c601-2 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a few points, but first I congratulate the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North and Leith...
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Eric Forth | 439 c599 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the right hon. Gentleman has had an opportunity to open his post this morning....
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Andrew Smith | 439 c599-600 (Link to this contribution) One can draw whatever conclusions one wants from surveys that arrive in the post. All I can say is t...
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Philip Hollobone | 439 c600 (Link to this contribution) I add my support for the Bill. I have received more letters on climate change than on any other subj...
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Eric Forth | 439 c600 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has just boasted that he received 50 representations since the election. Will he remi...
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Norman Baker | 439 c598 (Link to this contribution) There is a tendency to set targets for a long time hence and then find that they have not been met. ...
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Andrew Smith | 439 c598 (Link to this contribution) Action to tackle climate change is a vital global challenge and I congratulate my hon. Friend the Me...
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Lord Harper | 439 c627 (Link to this contribution) I am a little confused about whether the hon. Member for Conwy (Mrs. Williams) supported the Bill in...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c626 (Link to this contribution) Well, very briefly.
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c627 (Link to this contribution) Yes. There is a difference between effective parliamentary scrutiny and speaking for the sake of it....
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Eric Forth | 439 c628-9 (Link to this contribution) I confess that I was minded to seek to divide the House on this Bill because I have grave reservatio...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c627 (Link to this contribution) That will be subject to the will of the House and the other place, but I also hope that that will ha...
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Lord Harper | 439 c629 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend may be aware of the discussions about the economic impact of changes in the UK ...
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Eric Forth | 439 c636 (Link to this contribution) I share my hon. Friend’s view and I worry about the propagandisation of our young people by teachers...
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Lord Harper | 439 c636 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a serious point. My hon. Friend the Member for Kettering (Mr. Hollobone...
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Eric Forth | 439 c635 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend on the Front Bench is as enthusiastic as I am. Whether he or anybody else can explain...
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Eric Forth | 439 c634-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend says, ““Because we are trendy””—he should know better than most. Why do we talk abou...
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Michael Fabricant | 439 c634 (Link to this contribution) : Because we are trendy.
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Eric Forth | 439 c634 (Link to this contribution) I forgive the hon. Member for Lewes (Norman Baker) for his impatience, but as you know, Madam Deputy...
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Speaker | 439 c634 (Link to this contribution) We are debating the Bill’s Second Reading and the right hon. Gentleman is setting the background. Ho...
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Norman Baker | 439 c634 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Fascinating though this discourse is, the right hon. Memb...
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Lord Harper | 439 c632 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend might perhaps have been as concerned as I was recently during the informal Euro...
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Eric Forth | 439 c632-4 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to my hon. Friend, who refers to other factors that will inevitably be crucial. W...
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Malcolm Wicks | 439 c639 (Link to this contribution) It is a hippy Government.
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Eric Forth | 439 c638-9 (Link to this contribution) There is that and more. Time lines would be involved as well. At what times of day might the emissio...
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Justine Greening | 439 c642 (Link to this contribution) : My right hon. Friend is pursuing a valid line. Our experience in London—for example, with local ta...
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Eric Forth | 439 c639-42 (Link to this contribution) Quite right. Of course, it would be open to the relevant Departments to persuade the Chancellor fro...
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Lord Harper | 439 c638 (Link to this contribution) Someone of a mischievous turn of mind might even think that a motion for a resolution in both Houses...
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Eric Forth | 439 c637-8 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend says from a sedentary position, he would hope so. Nevertheless, if we want to have...
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Justine Greening | 439 c638 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes the valid point that if we are to report on emissions, we need to be cert...
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Eric Forth | 439 c638 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. What he says illustrates that we must not treat parliamentary processes of ...
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Lord Harper | 439 c637 (Link to this contribution) I would hope so.
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Eric Forth | 439 c637 (Link to this contribution) That is a good point, but the position is more difficult. A mere global report on UK emissions, howe...
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Lord Harper | 439 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting that clause 2(1) has two paragraphs. It provides for the Prime Minister or whichev...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c647 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I shall reply. My hon. Friend the Minister suggested that he would requ...
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Eric Forth | 439 c642 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Her local authority, and mine in Bromley, of course, being Conserva...
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Eric Forth | 439 c642 (Link to this contribution) The Forest of Dean, no doubt, has a contribution to make, and I am delighted to give way to my hon. ...
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Justine Greening | 439 c647 (Link to this contribution) : My right hon. Friend makes a valid point. Above all, we need consistency. On the one hand, we are ...
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Eric Forth | 439 c647 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a fair point. If she were to have the privilege of serving on the Committee, sh...
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Lord Harper | 439 c642 (Link to this contribution) The Forest of Dean is also clean and green. My right hon. Friend and my hon. Friend the Member for P...
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Eric Forth | 439 c642-4 (Link to this contribution) That relates to the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Putney (Justine Greening). There is ...
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Lord Harper | 439 c644-5 (Link to this contribution) Because of the lack of explanation that my right hon. Friend describes, there is a risk that the Bil...
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Eric Forth | 439 c645-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has illustrated why it is always risky—not just risky but, for ...
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Andrew Love | 439 c593 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way and I, too, welcome his Bill. There appears to be an emerging ...
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Brooks Newmark | 439 c605 (Link to this contribution) Once again, my right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. I am always very sceptical about what com...
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Speaker | 439 c647 (Link to this contribution) Order. Interventions should be brief.
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Lord Harper | 439 c612 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point but he slightly misunderstands my point. I was not talking about h...
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Alistair Carmichael | 439 c627 (Link to this contribution) I welcome most warmly the announcement that the Minister has just made, which will make a significan...
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Peter Ainsworth | 439 c587 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on bringing this important Bill before the House. Does he agree th...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c593 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an interesting point.
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Jo Swinson | 439 c621 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Eric Forth | 439 c611 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend share my worry that if we took that provision literally and the Secretary of Sta...
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Lord Harper | 439 c610 (Link to this contribution) The Prime Minister makes an important point—[Laughter.] I am sure that that Freudian slip has filled...
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Eric Forth | 439 c629-32 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. He will not be surprised to learn that I intend to touch on that po...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c588 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention and for his support. I am pleased that loc...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 439 c587 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valid point, and I am sure that it has been heard by the Ministers responsibl...
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Speaker | 439 c607 (Link to this contribution) Order. The House will now stand and observe two minutes silence in remembrance of those who gave the...
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