Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 22 June 2006, in the House of Lords.
Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill
Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill. Lords Committee stage. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses room). Clauses 1-30 agreed to, Clause 23 as amended. Schedules 1-4 agreed to, schedule 4 as amended. New clauses considered. Remaining clauses and schedule agreed to. Bill reported with amendments (HL Bill 129 2005-06)
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Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill. Brought from Commons . Explanatory Notes HL Bill 110-EN also published
Thursday, 18 May 2006
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House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Rooker | 683 c144-5GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Baroness knows, these issues were raised in the other place. We have given considerable...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c146-7GC (Link to this contribution) My name is added to this amendment. The noble Lord, Lord Smith of Clifton, and I colluded seriously,...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c151-2GC (Link to this contribution) The amendments are acceptable to the Government but they are not necessary for the Bill. The Sustain...
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Lord Laird | 683 c150-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 29:"Page 17, line 45, after ““development”” insert ““and the implementation of f...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c157GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for raising the issue, as I can put briefly on the record the Govern...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c124-5GC (Link to this contribution) If the chief electoral officer, who has the ultimate responsibility for electoral law and the canvas...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c124GC (Link to this contribution) We will discuss that matter under a later amendment. It would be up to the chief electoral officer. ...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c129GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12:"Page 7, line 28, after ““State”” insert ““and shall hold office during good ...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c127-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13:"Page 7, line 28, after ““by”” insert ““Her Majesty the Queen on the recommen...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c129-30GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendments Nos. 14 to 17 n...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c139GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 20 not moved...
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Lord Maginnis of Drumglass | 683 c136GC (Link to this contribution) I rise briefly to support the case made by the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran. From a unionist perspecti...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c115GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 1, line 5, leave out subsection (1)." The noble Lord said: First, may I...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c143-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24:"Page 13, line 18, leave out from ““with”” to end of line 21 and insert ““cro...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c148GC (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree.
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Lord Rooker | 683 c148GC (Link to this contribution) But that is second best.
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Lord Hylton | 683 c147GC (Link to this contribution) In recent years and under recent Governments, there have been some slight improvements in the way in...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c149-50GC (Link to this contribution) I am trying to anticipate the future. One never knows. I have accepted that the noble Lord, Lord Roo...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c148-9GC (Link to this contribution) When I was described over there as the part-time commuting direct-rule Minister, it was basically a ...
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Lord Laird | 683 c152GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his heartening reply and explanation. I shall withdraw the amendme...
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Lord Brougham and Vaux | 683 c153-4GC (Link to this contribution) For the benefit of those who may read Hansard later, this debate should have taken place when I aske...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c155-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for bringing her amendment forward. I am particularly grateful f...
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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 683 c158GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 33A:"Page 39, line 25, leave out ““96(1)”” and insert ““96(2)””" The noble Baro...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c125GC (Link to this contribution) We are proposing that it should be 10 years. We are in listening mode; we are a listening Government...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c122-4GC (Link to this contribution) I hear what noble Lords say, and the argument is quite seductive, but I do not think anyone has refe...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c120GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, thank the Minister for his comments and his explanation. I am especially pleased about his c...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 683 c120GC (Link to this contribution) I remind the Committee that if Amendment No. 3 is agreed to I cannot call Amendments Nos. 4, 5 or 6 ...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 683 c127GC (Link to this contribution) There is an error in the Marshalled List, and I should call Amendment No. 13 before Amendment No. 12...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c129GC (Link to this contribution) I seem to be alone on this one, for some reason that I am not quite sure about, perhaps because I ha...
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Lord Maginnis of Drumglass | 683 c125GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not being here for the beginning of the debate. Will the Minister clarify the idea o...
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Lord Hylton | 683 c130-1GC (Link to this contribution) I support the thrust of Amendment No. 21. The Bill, as drafted, gives the maximum incentive to polit...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c130GC (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to Amendment No. 22 in this group, to which we have put our names. As we said at Sec...
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Lord Maginnis of Drumglass | 683 c133GC (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to the Minister. I am not sure that I followed the detail and complexities of w...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c139GC (Link to this contribution) I deeply appreciate the extent to which the Minister has tried to explain this matter. I understand ...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c119GC (Link to this contribution) Will Her Majesty’s Government come back to Parliament with their proposals after the consultation? D...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c120GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation. I know that he will understand me when I say that...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c145GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his explanation. We will probably want to come back to this because there s...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c145-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28:"After Clause 20, insert the following new clause—" ““CONTINUED SUSPENSION ...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c148GC (Link to this contribution) As far as Northern Ireland is concerned, plan B is direct rule. That is understood. It is tacitly th...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c147-8GC (Link to this contribution) I rise with some trepidation and a little humility because for 34 years the Westminster Parliament h...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c149GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister. I know that in a past incarnation he was at the forefront of constitutional re...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c151GC (Link to this contribution) I indicated on Second Reading that I would give some support to the noble Lord, Lord Laird, in his a...
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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 683 c150GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28B:"Page 16, line 12, at end insert—" ““( ) Where an Order in Council und...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c152-3GC (Link to this contribution) I did not hear the Deputy Chairman call Clause 23 but I should like to speak to it now for probing p...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c154-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32:"After Clause 25, insert the following new clause—" ““SHARED FUTURE (1) A...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c156GC (Link to this contribution) I must tell the noble Lord that I am not briefed up to date on education issues at present. There is...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c157-8GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that explanation. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by lea...
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Lord Laird | 683 c158GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 34:"Page 39, line 31, leave out from ““between”” to ““with”” in line 32 and inse...
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Lord Laird | 683 c160GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his explanation and the noble Baroness for her extremely important and wort...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c122GC (Link to this contribution) I also support the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Harris of Richmond. The requirement t...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c121-2GC (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to Amendments Nos. 5, 7 and 9 in the group referring to the timing of the canvass. I...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c126GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister referred to water rate payments as an additional source available to the registration o...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c131GC (Link to this contribution) I have listened intently, and with a great deal of sympathy, to noble Lords who have spoken on this ...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c131-3GC (Link to this contribution) I hope I will be able to satisfy noble Lords on this issue, particularly with regard to the point ma...
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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 683 c129GC (Link to this contribution) I believe that I covered the points in this amendment in my reply to the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran....
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Lord Rooker | 683 c136-9GC (Link to this contribution) That does not apply to what I am about to say but I sometimes think that my speeches could do with t...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c139GC (Link to this contribution) I have two or three points to make about my amendments. I accept that the Government have made a ste...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c141-3GC (Link to this contribution) I fully accept that we have reached a part of the Bill which is controversial in some respects. I no...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c143GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response. I accept a great deal of what he has said because I have list...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c135-6GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to reinforce the argument of my noble friend Lord Smith. We are not opposed to the pri...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c115-6GC (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to Amendment No. 2 in this small group. The amendment replicates provisions that are...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c117-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the amendments. I think that I can satisfy Members of the Committee on most, if no...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c119GC (Link to this contribution) To be honest, I do not want to be tempted to go into the shenanigans of my birthplace. There clearly...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c119-20GC (Link to this contribution) That raises a question about papers which I saw flying around earlier this year when I was still in ...
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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 683 c150GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28A:"Page 16, line 7, at end insert ““under the law of Northern Ireland””" The ...
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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 683 c149GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the noble Lord will join me in agreeing that since 1997 and, I believe, before that, ...
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Lord Hylton | 683 c151GC (Link to this contribution) I recall being told many years ago that a little village called Fivemiletown was extremely polarised...
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Lord Brougham and Vaux | 683 c152GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, did not hear me asking whether Clause 23 should stand part of the Bi...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c153GC (Link to this contribution) I am more than happy to respond to the noble Lord. I am sorry that I probably shall not be able resp...
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Lord Hylton | 683 c156GC (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness withdraws her amendment, perhaps I may put one or two points to the Minist...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c156-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister. We shall watch carefully to see how his directions have been emb...
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Lord Rogan | 683 c157GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 33:"After Clause 28, insert the following new clause—" ““ELECTION TO ASSEMBLY ...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c158GC (Link to this contribution) We on these Benches support the amendment. The Bill provides for co-operation between PSNI and the G...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c158-60GC (Link to this contribution) I am surprised at that last contribution. The noble Baroness is entitled to her views. The Bill mov...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c124GC (Link to this contribution) It strikes me that the 2010 canvass could be a good guideline. If in 2010 it is found that the canva...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c120-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 2, leave out lines 24 to 27 and insert—" ““(a) the year 2007; (b) ever...
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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 683 c128-9GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, said, this part of the Bill brings the terms and conditions of th...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c125-6GC (Link to this contribution) With due respect, the issues are not comparable. I made it clear that the chief electoral officer wi...
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Lord Rooker | 683 c126GC (Link to this contribution) It is the same with rates. We have individual registration in Northern Ireland, but a range of infor...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c126-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the noble Lord’s explanation on this group of amendments. We note that the chief e...
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Lord Maginnis of Drumglass | 683 c130GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 18:"Page 9, line 7, leave out ““2007”” and insert ““2006””" The noble Lord said...
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Lord Smith of Clifton | 683 c133-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19:"Page 10, leave out lines 18 to 35." The noble Lord said: This amendment is ...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c134-5GC (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to the amendments standing in my name and to support the amendment of the noble Lord...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c139-41GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23:"After Clause 16, insert the following new clause—" ““PLEDGE TO UPHOLD RULE...
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Lord Hylton | 683 c136GC (Link to this contribution) I speak to the Question whether Clauses 12 and 13 should stand part. This legislation is extraordin...
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Lord Hylton | 683 c116-7GC (Link to this contribution) From what has been said already, I take it—I hope I am correct, but I am probably wrong—that it is p...
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Lord Glentoran | 683 c117GC (Link to this contribution) We definitely feel there is a need for the anonymity option in Northern Ireland. We would prefer the...
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Baroness Harris of Richmond | 683 c119GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for explaining that. I am not terribly clear about the delay. The just...
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