Budget debate on Thursday, 22 March 2007, in the House of Commons, led by George Osborne. The answering member was Alan Johnson.
Budget Resolutions and Economic Situation
Budget debate (second day): economic situation and education.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 458 c963-1050
- Session
- 2006-07
- Department
- Treasury
- Department for Education and Skills
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
- Proceeding contributions
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John Healey | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) No. I think that the hon. Gentleman should do his own work. If he looks at table 1.2 on page 14 of t...
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John Healey | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) I am making the point—in order to clear up what is clearly a great deal of confusion among Conservat...
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John Healey | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Billion—thank you. In that context, the figures in table 1.2 that I have mentioned mean that the Cha...
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John Healey | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) I must make some progress; I want to respond to the other contributions that have been made today.
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John Baron | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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George Osborne | 458 c1045 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is making a valiant attempt to pretend that the Chancellor did not present his Budget a...
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John Healey | 458 c1050 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way. My right hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, East (Keith Vaz) was concerned ...
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John Healey | 458 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) The Chancellor is to take a look at the gift aid regime to see how we can improve what it can delive...
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Lord Risby | 458 c1049 (Link to this contribution) Will the Financial Secretary give way?
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Greg Clark | 458 c1048 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Lord Lilley | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm that he is talking about the decisions in the Budget, which excludes all t...
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Michael Jack | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm that there is column in the Red Book for the financial year 2008-09? At th...
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John Healey | 458 c1046 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has been a Treasury Minister. He will also have seen in the Red Book that t...
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John Healey | 458 c1046-7 (Link to this contribution) I am going to deal with some of the comments that the hon. Gentleman made during the debate. If he w...
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Baroness Teather | 458 c1047 (Link to this contribution) I understand the answer that the Minister gave me earlier; I was expecting him to say that. Neverthe...
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Greg Clark | 458 c1048 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful. Will the Minister confirm that there is a provision in the Chancellor’s Budget statem...
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John Healey | 458 c1049-50 (Link to this contribution) Forgive me, I will not. I have referred to the hon. Gentleman and I will do so again if I have time....
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Greg Clark | 458 c1047 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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John Healey | 458 c1047-8 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I want to respond to the hon. Members who have made contribut...
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John Healey | 458 c1048 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has moved. I give way because he is most persistent.
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John Healey | 458 c1047 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to repeat myself, but I will explain that, although the trend rate of growth is 2.75 p...
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George Osborne | 458 c963-4 (Link to this contribution) I of course accept what the Leader of the House has just said about the absence of the Chancellor of...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c964 (Link to this contribution) To clarify the situation, will the hon. Gentleman give a commitment today to the House that the Tori...
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George Osborne | 458 c964 (Link to this contribution) Of course. Perhaps the hon. Gentleman will put those details on his election leaflet.
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George Osborne | 458 c964 (Link to this contribution) There is no tax cut, sadly, and that is the whole point. If one looks in the Red Book, it is not the...
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Jim Sheridan | 458 c964 (Link to this contribution) I may take that opportunity. Can the hon. Gentleman set the tone for his contribution today—I will b...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c982 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, East and Wallsend (Mr. Brown) voted for the...
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Lord Gove | 458 c982 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State referred to the act of courage in introducing variable tuition fees. How does...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c982 (Link to this contribution) That is absolute, undiluted nonsense. Let us consider what the hon. Gentleman had to say about the i...
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Lord Willetts | 458 c982 (Link to this contribution) Following on from the previous intervention, what is the Secretary of State’s view of the account of...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the hon. Gentleman, who was on the Standing Committee that considered the Bill.
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Alan Johnson | 458 c981 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an important point, but I have good news. There is much more that we need to d...
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Jim Sheridan | 458 c981 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right that lifting people out of poverty is the best route in ter...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c981-2 (Link to this contribution) It taught us all that we need to know about the Conservatives. We saw how they reacted when they had...
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Speaker | 458 c981 (Link to this contribution) Order. I ask Conservative Front-Bench Members to come to order.
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Lord Willetts | 458 c980 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
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Alan Johnson | 458 c980 (Link to this contribution) No, what the hon. Gentleman has to bear in mind is that we will move from 16 to 17 in 2013 and then ...
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David Howarth | 458 c980 (Link to this contribution) On the topic of using expenditure to deal with problems, may I bring the Secretary of State to the f...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. That is why the Opposition will be serving their apprenticeship for the nex...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) The thrust of my argument is not that everything is perfect. Part of the—[Interruption.] I will come...
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Lord Willetts | 458 c980 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State for eventually giving way. I wanted to ask him about the ski...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c980 (Link to this contribution) We know the stance that the Conservatives took—[Interruption.] Just a second. Conservative Members s...
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Barry Sheerman | 458 c979 (Link to this contribution) Did my right hon. Friend notice that as soon as he started to talk about apprenticeships, Opposition...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c979 (Link to this contribution) I shall leave it to my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary to the Treasury to deal with that at the ...
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Greg Clark | 458 c979 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State explain whether that settlement has Gershon savings factored into it? Ho...
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George Osborne | 458 c971 (Link to this contribution) Of course I welcome it—the Leader of the Opposition proposed it. Yesterday, the Chancellor began hi...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c971-2 (Link to this contribution) That was an entertaining speech from the hon. Member for Tatton (Mr. Osborne), but the public will b...
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Bernard Jenkin | 458 c972 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman clear just one thing up? The Red Book shows that the overall tax burde...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c972 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the hon. Gentleman will not be surprised to know, I do, not least because 15 million gaining ho...
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George Osborne | 458 c971 (Link to this contribution) Presumably the hon. Lady welcomed it.
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Alan Johnson | 458 c972 (Link to this contribution) We will indeed spend £6,600 per pupil by 2010 compared with £2,500 per pupil when we took office. Th...
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David Heath | 458 c972 (Link to this contribution) The one figure that really struck me in what the Chancellor said yesterday was £6,600 as the average...
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Graham Stuart | 458 c972 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman tell the House how it can be a tax-cutting Budget when the Chancellor ...
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Philip Dunne | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State has just confirmed the Government’s intention to increase education funding p...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps we will have a teach-in afterwards. I am talking about the average amount of spending per pu...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to talk about the success of ““Youth Matters””, not least because we had a w...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way one more time, but then I want to make some progress.
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Alan Johnson | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) This Budget produces a £2.5 billion cut in personal taxes, which helps the poorest in this country. ...
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Ann Coffey | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) On the issue of helping disadvantaged young people, I was pleased to hand out awards to young people...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c972 (Link to this contribution) Because of the 15 million families that will see their taxes cut and because the overall effect of t...
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David Howarth | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) I know of the Secretary of State’s commitment to values that he has upheld for a long time, which I ...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c973-4 (Link to this contribution) No. I am going to make some progress. Since we came into office—this is pertinent to previous quest...
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Greg Clark | 458 c973 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Keith Vaz | 458 c974 (Link to this contribution) Has the Secretary of State had a report from the Minister for Schools about his recent visit to Leic...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c974 (Link to this contribution) I have. Indeed, I am so enthused and excited by that report that I am going to come to Leicester mys...
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Meg Hillier | 458 c974 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my right hon. Friend, accompanied by our right hon. Friend the Chancellor, enjoyed his v...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c974-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I believe she is talking about a tremendous visit to a primary school in he...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c975 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is confusing two different things. First, Skills for Life is dealing with the fai...
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Helen Jones | 458 c975 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is right to say that this Government are the first to tackle the national scand...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c975 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has a great deal of experience in this field, and I defer to no one in my respect for...
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Baroness Browning | 458 c975-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not disagree with the idea that there should be proper accreditation for courses, but one of th...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c976 (Link to this contribution) I accept what the hon. Lady is saying. I have heard this from several quarters. I will go back and l...
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Barry Sheerman | 458 c976-7 (Link to this contribution) Is my right hon. Friend aware of the improvements that have taken place in extended schools? I urge ...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c977 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right about extended schools achieving better results. Ofsted has recently produce...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c978 (Link to this contribution) I welcome what the Secretary of State is saying. What additional investment will be put into the 16-...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c978 (Link to this contribution) For that aspect, there will be £200 million in capital spend in the run-up to 2015, when we intend t...
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Meg Hillier | 458 c977 (Link to this contribution) I fear that my right hon. Friend underplays the benefits of extended schools. In Hackney, one of our...
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Michael Jack | 458 c978 (Link to this contribution) Given the importance of the message that the right hon. Gentleman has just articulated, what sort of...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c979 (Link to this contribution) I shall resist the temptation to deal with that point—perhaps the right hon. Gentleman will raise it...
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Meg Hillier | 458 c978 (Link to this contribution) On a recent visit to Hackney’s air cadets, I found that the proposal was not greeted with universal ...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c978 (Link to this contribution) I must pay a flying visit to Hackney air cadets. It is important that we engage young people in the ...
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George Osborne | 458 c964 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to match the spending commitments on education because the Chancellor is sharing the proc...
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George Osborne | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend, who was of course a Treasury Minister, has been eagle-eyed and he is right. Th...
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Michael Jack | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) Did my hon. Friend notice the subtle adjustment in the withdrawal rate of tax credit in respect of i...
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Viscount Hailsham | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Viscount Hailsham | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for reminding me of my status and his. When commenting on the Chance...
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George Osborne | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. and learned Friend returns to the familiar theme of Iraq, and perhaps we should save i...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) Oh, that toff.
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George Osborne | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) If the people involved earn less than £18,000, their income tax bill will go up when they return to ...
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Sally Keeble | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will be lucky! This Budget will help me keep my seat. The Chancellor made importa...
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George Osborne | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the hon. Member for Northampton, North (Ms Keeble), who has one of the seats tha...
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George Osborne | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) I will, and then I want to talk about the environment.
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Andrew Love | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has given a commitment today that he will match the Government’s planned public e...
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George Osborne | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Lady will explain to her constituents that the Budget announced yesterday increases...
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Andrew Love | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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George Osborne | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) Well, there is no point in the hon. Gentleman sneering at the man who was Cabinet Secretary in the G...
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Meg Hillier | 458 c966 (Link to this contribution) I represent one of the poorest constituencies in the country, where 22 per cent. of the population i...
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George Osborne | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) To be honest, I did not fully understand that intervention. The hon. Gentleman appeared to be saying...
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Andrew Love | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) Does that mean that there will be an explosion in borrowing in the future?
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George Osborne | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman looked at the spending plans announced by the Chancellor yesterday, he will se...
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Andrew Love | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) I am talking about borrowing.
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George Osborne | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in a little while, but I want to make progress. It is clear that the Chancellor did...
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Bob Ainsworth | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should not talk about the environment.
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George Osborne | 458 c967-8 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry? I thought that we just heard from the Labour Front Bench that we should not talk about t...
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Wayne David | 458 c968 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Wayne David | 458 c968 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the Institute of Directors has welcomed the Budget?
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George Osborne | 458 c968 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman will tell me.
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Lord Gove | 458 c969 (Link to this contribution) Arise, Sir Barry.
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George Osborne | 458 c968-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall tell the House what the business organisations have said about the Budget. Michael Saunders ...
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Speaker | 458 c970 (Link to this contribution) Order. On more than one occasion the hon. Gentleman has not referred to Members of the House or of t...
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George Osborne | 458 c970-1 (Link to this contribution) Of course, Madam Deputy Speaker. From now on, I shall refer to the right hon. Member for Kirkcaldy a...
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Barry Sheerman | 458 c969 (Link to this contribution) I did not know it had been announced yet, Madam Deputy Speaker. I was a Member for the 10 years bef...
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George Osborne | 458 c969-70 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am saying that, because the question the public are asking is: where has all the money gone? ...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c988 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c988 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman deny that he said, a few moments ago—it will therefore be in Hansard t...
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Keith Vaz | 458 c988 (Link to this contribution) I will in a moment, but I ask the hon. Gentleman to hang on a minute; I am starting my speech. Of t...
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Keith Vaz | 458 c988 (Link to this contribution) That is indeed what I said, and we should welcome the reduction, because it benefits people in all o...
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Simon Burns | 458 c988 (Link to this contribution) In the past three months, I have, in this Chamber, heard the right hon. Gentleman express concern to...
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Keith Vaz | 458 c989 (Link to this contribution) I will, but I urge the hon. Gentleman to listen to the rest of my speech. I know that he came in lat...
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Simon Burns | 458 c989 (Link to this contribution) I have been here all the time!
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Keith Vaz | 458 c989 (Link to this contribution) I am very pleased. I did not see the hon. Gentleman—
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Speaker | 458 c989 (Link to this contribution) Order. If there are to be interventions, may we follow the usual rules of debate?
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Keith Vaz | 458 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) Madam Deputy Speaker, I am sorry. I did not particularly look for the hon. Gentleman earlier; I apol...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) That is why it was a difficult act of political courage. [Laughter.] Absolutely; of course. It would...
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James Clappison | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) While we are on the subject of who said what when, will the Secretary of State just remind us what t...
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Baroness Teather | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) To be fair, the largest group in those statistics is made up of people whose parents’ backgrounds ar...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) If that is the best that the hon. Lady can do to defend her policy of not introducing fees, I do not...
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Lord Lilley | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) Is the Secretary of State saying that anyone can keep a promise, but that it requires courage to bre...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is an expert among Conservative Members at breaking manifesto promises. The...
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Baroness Teather | 458 c984-7 (Link to this contribution) The House might be relieved to hear that I will attempt to strike a slightly different tone from the...
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Keith Vaz | 458 c988 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Brent, East (Sarah Teather), because her const...
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Meg Hillier | 458 c983-4 (Link to this contribution) We know that there are more young black men in prison than at university. Sadly, the chances of Hack...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c984 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. This is not only about the stage of applying to university. The process sta...
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Michael Fallon | 458 c1005-6 (Link to this contribution) I did not, but the BBC’s economics editor made that point in a BBC broadcast in which I participated...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1005 (Link to this contribution) Did my hon. Friend hear the economics editor of the BBC observe last night that although the Treasur...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1003-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a fair and reasonable point, if we want to produce rounded citizens, but th...
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Stephen Williams | 458 c1003 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady attended the Committee yesterday when we heard evidence from the University of Manches...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1003 (Link to this contribution) I will give way as the hon. Gentleman is a member of the Committee.
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Helen Jones | 458 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) I will try to do so, Madam Deputy Speaker. My argument is that our money should be spent on developi...
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Stephen Williams | 458 c1003 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady give way?
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Helen Jones | 458 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend, and that is a very important point. What seems to have worked in the pr...
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Speaker | 458 c1002 (Link to this contribution) Order. I wonder whether the hon. Lady, when she makes her suggestions, will be able to link them to ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1001 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that a key issue in raising standards in schools is leadership, and that i...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1000-1 (Link to this contribution) The Government’s target is to get good schools, which is the right target. Parents want a good local...
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Greg Mulholland | 458 c1000 (Link to this contribution) Although we agree that there are some positive spending measures in the Budget, does the hon. Lady n...
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Stephen Williams | 458 c996 (Link to this contribution) I, too, have taken an interest over many years, from a professional point of view, in the tax law re...
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Michael Jack | 458 c993-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to be called to speak in the debate. I remind the House of my declaration in the Regis...
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Helen Jones | 458 c999-1000 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Fylde (Mr. Jack), who always has something inte...
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Michael Jack | 458 c996-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the hon. Gentleman’s observations. We do not necessarily need another commission, ...
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John Baron | 458 c990 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman made a point about hospital waiting lists. Despite the doubling of the mone...
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Keith Vaz | 458 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) I do not. The hon. Gentleman has a great deal of knowledge as a shadow Health Minister, so he knows ...
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Lord Lilley | 458 c992 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that even if there are the advantages in labour market terms th...
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Keith Vaz | 458 c992-3 (Link to this contribution) I know that the right hon. Gentleman poses those questions sincerely. I have had no evidence at my s...
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John Baron | 458 c1018 (Link to this contribution) I accept that things may be going very well in Durham, but I suggest that one reason why people are ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1018 (Link to this contribution) It is, actually. When I was elected in 2001, my constituents had to wait at least two years for orth...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1017-8 (Link to this contribution) I am sure the hon. Gentleman agrees that there are many similarities between his constituency and mi...
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David Gauke | 458 c1015 (Link to this contribution) Despite the number of extra jobs that the hon. Gentleman mentions, does he accept that it is disappo...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1015-7 (Link to this contribution) There are a record number of jobs in the economy. There is a hard core that we have to tackle; I hav...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for West Suffolk (Mr. Spring), but I think he lives in a ...
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Lord Risby | 458 c1017 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has implicitly highlighted the huge differentials in per capita spending in diffe...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1017 (Link to this contribution) My heart bleeds for deprived Suffolk, but health inequality is an issue in this country. Is the hon....
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Lord Risby | 458 c1017 (Link to this contribution) Where has all the money gone?
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1017 (Link to this contribution) That is where the money has gone—into bricks and mortar.
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Lord Risby | 458 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the hon. Gentleman accepts that errors have occurred. I dare say that management has ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1011 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman about the fiddling around with health authorities. In Durham, for ex...
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Lord Risby | 458 c1013-4 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the Chancellor’s Budgets are always rather mysterious and arcane, and it takes grea...
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David Gauke | 458 c1012-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. I do not know whether he noticed the Chancellor’s curious p...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1006-7 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, whoever is in power, the Government will increasingly have to re...
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Michael Fallon | 458 c1007-9 (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree with that. We all, across the House and across government, ought to be more aware ...
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Lord Risby | 458 c1009 (Link to this contribution) If we look back on the past 10 years, we see that the Chancellor has consistently said that the econ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1010 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that one of the things that contributes most to making people feel goo...
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Lord Risby | 458 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution) I accept that there has been a growth in employment. That is true in almost all industrialised count...
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Baroness Primarolo | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman could give us just one point in that paper that demonstrates that people ...
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David Gauke | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) The evidence that I would cite for the Paymaster General is a paper that Donald Draper produced in S...
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Baroness Primarolo | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to what the hon. Gentleman said. He implied that the way in which tax credits a...
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David Gauke | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I find it surprising that hon. Members do not think that there could be any way in which the tax and...
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David Gauke | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) I will give one point: the Department for Work and Pension has assessed the weekly income that is re...
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Baroness Primarolo | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) I have read the whole thing, and I am waiting for the hon. Member for South-West Hertfordshire (Mr. ...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Read the report.
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) So wedding vows should be changed to ““to love and to cherish, till death us do part, or till the ta...
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David Gauke | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady is asking whether I think that the tax and benefits system—it is important to add t...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) There are two issues that the hon. Gentleman needs to address. First, does he believe that couples s...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1028 (Link to this contribution) Is it not a fact that, in addition to the changes in corporation tax, many of those companies and pe...
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David Gauke | 458 c1027-8 (Link to this contribution) There were some good bits—or perhaps one: the cut in corporation tax. Of course we take some credit ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1029 (Link to this contribution) It is worth nothing that when the hon. Gentleman’s party was in power it did nothing at all to prote...
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David Gauke | 458 c1029-30 (Link to this contribution) I am not suggesting that. However, the Government have lost a case on the basis of maladministration...
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David Gauke | 458 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I understand why the hon. Gentleman says that, but if we are trying to encourage lone parents into w...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1027 (Link to this contribution) I have been listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman and I find what he just said and what the hon....
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David Gauke | 458 c1025-7 (Link to this contribution) Yesterday we heard what we all assume will be the final Budget from the current Chancellor. I though...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1023-5 (Link to this contribution) I have acknowledged that the pension protection plan is welcome, but I am talking about people who, ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1023 (Link to this contribution) This Government are the only one ever to have introduced a pension protection plan. Before that, the...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1023 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1022-3 (Link to this contribution) The Minister could apply the same argument to the taxes on tobacco or alcohol. They are consumption ...
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Baroness Primarolo | 458 c1022 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman expect his party’s environmental taxes to work? If they do, and people’s inc...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1022 (Link to this contribution) Our policy is clear: we would cut the 10p rate to zero, and the 22p rate to 20p. We would fund that ...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1022 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in what the hon. Gentleman is saying. Will the Liberal Democrats therefore vote agai...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1022 (Link to this contribution) That is very true. When the figures were published, the examples given were all positive, but the re...
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Greg Mulholland | 458 c1022 (Link to this contribution) I wish to give my hon. Friend a figure that will emphasise the point that he is making. A single par...
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Baroness Primarolo | 458 c1021 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman looks at the take-up of working tax credit, he will find that it is higher tha...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1022 (Link to this contribution) Notwithstanding that point, with a 10p rate of income tax, people automatically keep the money, depe...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1021 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak on the Budget resolution and I wish to pick up on some of...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1020-1 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend; indeed, this is a great opportunity for schools. Schools and further ed...
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1021 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Paymaster General for making that point, but I correctly said working tax credi...
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Baroness Primarolo | 458 c1021 (Link to this contribution) I think that the hon. Gentleman will find that his point does not bear scrutiny. If he looks at the ...
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David Anderson | 458 c1019 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, regardless of where hospitals or services are located, nurses are fi...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1019 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not. Back in 2001, I regularly had letters in my postbag and people coming into my surgery ...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1020 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend recall that when the school leaving age was raised from 15 to 16, exactly the sa...
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1019-20 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend and constituency neighbour makes the point well that we have got rid of the poverty w...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1033 (Link to this contribution) That is very kind of the hon. Gentleman. I am grateful for his giving way a second time. I was refer...
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John Baron | 458 c1033 (Link to this contribution) I will be generous and give way a second time.
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1040-1;458 c1039-41 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. Could it be that they have worked out something about the Budget that the Chancellor did not...
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Michael Jack | 458 c1041 (Link to this contribution) Did my hon. Friend, when he was crafting his excellent remarks, ponder the fact that the Chancellor ...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1041-3 (Link to this contribution) I was pondering that point not only while I was crafting my remarks but while I was listening to the...
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Bob Ainsworth | 458 c1043 (Link to this contribution) Why not congratulate the Chancellor?
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John Baron | 458 c1033-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady knows the answer to that question already. The point that I am trying to make, which I...
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Lord Lilley | 458 c1036-9 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for having been absent from the Chamber for a while. I had to attend a meeting of the tr...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1039 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to speak in this second day of the Budget debate, and it is an equal pleasure to fo...
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David Gauke | 458 c1039 (Link to this contribution) Not even a Whip.
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Lord Beamish | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) And the point?
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Helen Jones | 458 c1033 (Link to this contribution) A number of the pressures to which the hon. Gentleman refers relate to improving wages for NHS staff...
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John Baron | 458 c1033 (Link to this contribution) If one speaks to the Royal College of Nursing, one realises that it is not a happy organisation. The...
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David Gauke | 458 c1031-2 (Link to this contribution) Indeed; the Chancellor certainly would not. None the less, there are administrative difficulties, an...
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John Baron | 458 c1032-3 (Link to this contribution) I suggest to the House that this is an interesting Budget, if only because there is a dispute about ...
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David Gauke | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) No, I have given way. I wish to conclude with this point on tax credits: another clear difficulty wi...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) The Chancellor would not.
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David Gauke | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) That was the point; the amount required for couples, under the tax credits system, would be greater ...
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Helen Jones | 458 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1044 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is ahead of me. Their accomplice, the right hon. Member for Norwich, South described ...
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George Osborne | 458 c1043 (Link to this contribution) What about the right hon. Member for Norwich, South (Mr. Clarke)?
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 458 c1043 (Link to this contribution) We told the Chancellor radically to reform corporation tax. Only a few days afterwards, in the Budge...
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John Healey | 458 c1045 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has not been in his place for much of the debate and did not contribute, though I...
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John Healey | 458 c1044-5 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the fact that we have had a full debate today. It is the first of at least two more days o...
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John Healey | 458 c1045 (Link to this contribution) It seems that, 24 hours after the Budget, the Opposition still cannot get their act together—[Interr...
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George Osborne | 458 c1045 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way to me, then, as I was here at the start?
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John Healey | 458 c1045 (Link to this contribution) I will give way later, but Opposition Members are asking me, ““Which is it?”” The Chancellor could n...
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Kerry McCarthy | 458 c971 (Link to this contribution) Does not the hon. Gentleman accept that removing the VAT restriction on city academies will make a h...
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Jim Sheridan | 458 c964 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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George Osborne | 458 c965 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to my former employer.
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Barry Sheerman | 458 c967 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Paul Rowen | 458 c1023 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman disagrees with me, but the matter has been the subject of reports from the pensio...
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Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 458 c975 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman embarrassed that, as a result of his Government’s policies, thousands of...
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Alan Johnson | 458 c977-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for highlighting the importance of this provision, and for describin...
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David Gauke | 458 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution) That was the justification that the Chancellor used at the time for the abolition of tax credits on ...
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James Clappison | 458 c983 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
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Michael Fallon | 458 c1005 (Link to this contribution) I remind the House of my interest that is recorded in the register. My right hon. Friend the Member...
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