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Debate on Monday, 2 July 2007, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Winterton of Doncaster.


European Global Navigation Satellite System

Debate on a motion to take note of European Union document No 7828/07 and ADD 1, Commission Communication , Galileo at a cross-road, the implementation of the European GNSS programme. Division deferred to 4 July. (Agreed to by 318 votes to 141).


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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
462 c763-87 
Session
2006-07
Department
Department for Transport
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Deferred divisions
Wednesday, 4 July 2007
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c766-7 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is right to say that we should examine cost implications, funding streams and i...
Speaker | 462 c787 (Link to this contribution) I think the Ayes have it. Division deferred till Wednesday 4 July, pursuant to Standing Order No. 4...
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Speaker | 462 c1015 (Link to this contribution) I now have to announce the result of the deferred Division on the motion relating to the European gl...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c786 (Link to this contribution) Yes, we should. I can see what the right hon. Member for Witney (Mr. Cameron) is up against when try...
Lembit Opik | 462 c764-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. On that very point, may I give her one example of an i...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c786 (Link to this contribution) The test and development phase, as I said— It being one and a half hours after the commencement of ...
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c786 (Link to this contribution) A lot of money comes directly from the European Commission, into which we channel money as well. Is ...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c780 (Link to this contribution) I very much hope that my hon. Friend gets an opportunity to speak in his own time in this debate, be...
William Cash | 462 c779 (Link to this contribution) In encouraging my hon. Friend in his important argument about the extent to which anti-Americanism l...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c780 (Link to this contribution) I am always a little sceptical about figures produced by the European Commission on the success of i...
Ann Winterton | 462 c780 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has skilfully kicked away the arguments for the strategic importance of Galileo. Will...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c780-1 (Link to this contribution) There are many things that the EU could do very well. It could do free trade well. Unfortunately, it...
David Leslie Taylor | 462 c780 (Link to this contribution) This is like the dead parrot sketch. Is not the hon. Gentleman’s unquestioning, illogical and chroni...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c781 (Link to this contribution) Ten years ago, the Government could have vetoed the proposal, but as my hon. Friend says, they canno...
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c781 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to participate in the debate, but I am saddened to hear that this is one of the fir...
Michael Connarty | 462 c781 (Link to this contribution) How much has been spent on the project?
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c782 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the question I put to the Minister, but I could not get a response. The right hon. L...
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) I am not misrepresenting the hon. Gentleman; if I can make some progress he will understand where I ...
Michael Connarty | 462 c782 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is misrepresenting me.
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c782 (Link to this contribution) I shall not give way, because I want to make progress.
Michael Connarty | 462 c783 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will check Hansard tomorrow and then apologise to me. At no time did ...
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c783-4 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend the Member for North Essex (Mr. Jenkin) said from a sedentary position, what is th...
William Cash | 462 c784-5 (Link to this contribution) It is not that often that the European Scrutiny Committee ends up having one of its proposals for de...
Owen Paterson | 462 c785 (Link to this contribution) To clarify matters for my hon. Friend, I was quoting a reply to the hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwi...
William Cash | 462 c785-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, as ever, for getting that point out into the open. We are talking a...
William Cash | 462 c773 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way on the question raised by the former Minister. In the discussi...
Owen Paterson | 462 c773 (Link to this contribution) The debate is whether we are happy with the Government’s negotiating stance. They have left us with ...
Michael Connarty | 462 c774 (Link to this contribution) I am saddened by the Opposition’s tone, particularly as they have forgotten that the Government’s po...
Lembit Opik | 462 c771 (Link to this contribution) By way of illustration to the hon. Gentleman, does he recognise that many of the smaller aerodromes ...
Owen Paterson | 462 c771 (Link to this contribution) I agree that airline pilots can navigate, but I would stress the huge importance of maintaining the ...
Stephen Ladyman | 462 c773 (Link to this contribution) It was not my intention to intervene on this debate, but I will not have the hon. Gentleman misrepre...
Owen Paterson | 462 c771-3 (Link to this contribution) The answer to that question posed by my parliamentary neighbour from Montgomeryshire is that we have...
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c774 (Link to this contribution) May I correct the hon. Gentleman? First, everyone in the House wants to support businesses in viable...
Michael Connarty | 462 c774-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a well known strategy to operate a loss leader in business. I studied economics, and there com...
Owen Paterson | 462 c775 (Link to this contribution) That is a ludicrous misinterpretation of what I said. I clearly explained a vision of linking EGNOS ...
William Cash | 462 c778 (Link to this contribution) There have been references to the European Scrutiny Committee report this evening, and the hon. Gent...
Alistair Carmichael | 462 c777-8 (Link to this contribution) I will not detain the House long. I welcome the Minister to her new position. She comes to the job w...
Michael Connarty | 462 c776-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman, although he criticises them a great deal, keeps referring to the involvement of ...
William Cash | 462 c776 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a fellow member of the European Scrutiny Committee, and I wish to ask him a qu...
Michael Connarty | 462 c775-6 (Link to this contribution) Different economic circumstances can arise at any time. No one originally predicted what would happe...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c775 (Link to this contribution) What circumstances might lead the United States to corrupt the signal so that users would have to pa...
Michael Connarty | 462 c775 (Link to this contribution) To underline my point, that system is reliant on GPS provided as a free service by another country. ...
Michael Connarty | 462 c779 (Link to this contribution) I put the same question to the hon. Gentleman as he put to me. If defence systems currently rely on ...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c779 (Link to this contribution) I agree totally with the hon. Gentleman. Some countries, however, share the anti-American paranoia—t...
Alistair Carmichael | 462 c778 (Link to this contribution) I thought that that was what I had just said. I also thought that that was what the hon. Member for ...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c778-9 (Link to this contribution) I have taken a 10-year interest in this subject, off and on, and I first join others in congratulati...
Tobias Ellwood | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way; she has been very generous so far, but she may not app...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) I hope that as we work through the debate, the hon. Gentleman will be able to put aside some of his ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) I will give way, but then I must make progress.
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c765 (Link to this contribution) As I have said, Galileo is considered a key Community project, but we are clear that it cannot be ca...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c765 (Link to this contribution) Between 1998 and 2001 I served as shadow Transport Secretary and debated this subject in European St...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c765 (Link to this contribution) The project has commercial applications in the same way as GPS has commercial applications. It is im...
David Leslie Taylor | 462 c766 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend rejoice, as I do, that the European Transport Council pressed the European...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c766 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to say that we must consider these matters carefully. That is why it was imp...
Michael Connarty | 462 c766 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that it is much more important that the investment, which was €10 bi...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c767 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady says that the Government are giving the assurance that this will not be for dedicated ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c766 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I am the first to recognise that at this stage he knows a lot more than I d...
Lord Spellar | 462 c766 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way and welcome her to her new position. The fundamental problem is ...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c768 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the question that we have given back to the Commission. As the hon. Gentleman will k...
Owen Paterson | 462 c768-9 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the right hon. Member for Doncaster, Central (Ms Winterton) on her new appointment. A...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c768 (Link to this contribution) Of course some military forces might use Galileo for purposes such as transport logistics; that is w...
Humfrey Malins | 462 c768 (Link to this contribution) The Minister will know that the European Scrutiny Committee referred to the need to identify the sou...
William Cash | 462 c769 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend recall that one of the reasons why we won the Falklands war was that we had acce...
Bernard Jenkin | 462 c771 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend deal with the suggestion made by the hon. Member for Montgomeryshire (Lembit Öpi...
Owen Paterson | 462 c769-71 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend and neighbour for making that point. He is right to stress the signi...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is certainly correct to say that the European Parliament has taken a great intere...
Keith Vaz | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for coming to the House to make a full statement, and for ensuring deba...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c763 (Link to this contribution) Obviously, there are opportunities for debate in the House. We are more than happy to keep hon. Memb...
Angus Robertson | 462 c763 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for being allowed to intervene at this early stage. Just to follow on from the point m...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c763 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House takes note of European Union document number 7828/07 and ADD 1, Commi...
Alistair Carmichael | 462 c763 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way at such an early stage in her speech. Like her, I think...
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) I will, but then I must make a little progress.
Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 462 c764 (Link to this contribution) The finances to date come under the financial perspectives headings, in which the figures are not in...
Owen Paterson | 462 c773-4 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful for the mild manner in which my hon. Friend and neighbour made his point. I agree...
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EU action Navigation Galileo system Global navigation satellite systems Satellite communications
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