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Debate on bill on Wednesday, 26 March 2008, in the House of Lords.

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill. Lords report stage first day. Amendment 3 negatived on division (112 votes to 72). Part 1 of 2 records.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
700 c568-96 
Session
2007-08
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Deposited Paper DEP2008-0914
Tuesday, 1 April 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Kingsland | 700 c568-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Clause 1, page 2, line 14, after ““Schedule),”” insert— ““( ) a reparati...
Baroness Stern | 700 c574 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall add a little to what has been said in support of the amendment, which we discussed...
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Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 700 c573 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the amendment. I also had the benefit of attending the very helpful meetin...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 700 c572-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Earl deserves thanks for and congratulations on having brought this matter befor...
Lord Ramsbotham | 700 c573 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I put my name to the amendment for the exact reason that the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morg...
Earl of Onslow | 700 c571-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: 3: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Custody of children: ...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 700 c572 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support this amendment, as we did in Committee. As the noble Earl, Lord Onslow, pointed...
Lord Bach | 700 c570 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I understand it—I have no specific advice on the important point that the noble Barones...
Lord Bach | 700 c569-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we return to the issue of reparation and this amendment, which was debated in Committee. I...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 700 c570 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry that my noble friend Lady Linklater is unable to be with us, which is, as the H...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 700 c582 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the amendment. It is worrying that something like a quarter of the under-1...
Earl of Onslow | 700 c580-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6: 6: Schedule 1, page 121, line 2, leave out ““include a local authority resi...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c581 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is a mistake in the Marshalled List. The amendment should read as follows: "““Page 1...
Lord Judd | 700 c581 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Earl and congratulate him on his perseverance in this matter. His poin...
Lord Ramsbotham | 700 c581-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, strongly support the amendment, and I should like to explore a few of the circumst...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c574-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the amendment tabled by the noble Earl, Lord Onslow, which gives an opportunity ...
Earl of Onslow | 700 c577 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for omitting to thank the Minister for allowing me to barge in on his meeting ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c579 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: 4: Schedule 1, page 118, line 9, leave out ““or”” The noble Lord said: My ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c580 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: 5: Schedule 1, page 118, line 10, at end insert ““, or (c) an officer of a ...
Lord Ramsbotham | 700 c591 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Bach, for copying to me the letter that he sent to t...
Lord Avebury | 700 c589-91 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11: 11: Schedule 1, page 124, line 39, after ““specified”” insert ““and design...
Earl of Onslow | 700 c588-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, frankly, I was hoping that no one was going to ask me that. Although Amendment No. 86 is g...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 700 c588 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may I ask the noble Earl a short question for elucidation? Is he reserving his position on...
Earl of Onslow | 700 c588 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his answer, in which he has gone a very small way down the road...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c588 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the general point is that the interests of justice test applies to adults as well. Eligibi...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 700 c588 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful. Am I right in thinking that everyone over 18 who is arrested on a char...
Lord Bach | 700 c588 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not stopping the noble Baroness, but I am grateful to her for giving way. I remind he...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 700 c591-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, is really objecting to the use of the wo...
Lord Bach | 700 c592-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, for raising again this important topic and ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c584-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an extremely interesting debate. I congratulate the noble Earl once again on...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 700 c584 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also particularly support Amendment No. 86 and the principle behind it. I respectfully e...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c586-7 (Link to this contribution) Yes, my Lords, but I have to find it from the legal aid budget. There is nowhere I can go to suddenl...
Earl of Onslow | 700 c586 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if, peradventure, another 20 per cent of these people apply for legal aid and 10 per cent ...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 700 c582 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the sentiments expressed by all noble Lords who have spoken on this matter. The ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 700 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, peering through the smoke and gloom of 11 years of new Labour government, increasingly aut...
Baroness Stern | 700 c583 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the Minister will clarify what is emerging from our discussion and from his letter ...
Lord Judd | 700 c587 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, let me say that I am sure that I am not alone in the Hou...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c587 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are on Report, so I will briefly respond to my noble friend. I thank him for his kind r...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 700 c588 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord will indulge me for a tiny moment—
Lord Bach | 700 c594-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am afraid that I do not think that I can; I have a note to that effect. The Youth Justic...
Lord Avebury | 700 c595 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the Minister for his thorough reply, although he did not respon...
Lord Bach | 700 c595 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the usual breach rules, which we will discuss later in government amendments, provide some...
Lord Avebury | 700 c595-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that may well be the answer to the point raised by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham. The pe...
Lord Avebury | 700 c594 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, could the noble Lord break down those figures into those relating to drugs and alcohol res...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 700 c574 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the Minister say when he replies to what extent the formula in the amendment would in...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 700 c596 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving the Motion, I sugge...
Lord Kingsland | 700 c570-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his full reply. He has striven hard to convince me of the error o...
Subjects
Criminal proceedings Alcoholic drinks Administration of justice Legal aid scheme Misuse Probation Rehabilitation Sentencing Young offenders
Legislation
Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill 2006-07 to 2007-08
Link
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