Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 8 May 2008, in the House of Lords.
Sale of Student Loans Bill
Secondary information
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 701 c167-206GC
- Session
- 2007-08
- Department
- Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills
- Legislative stage
- Committee stage
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Lords Grand Committee
- Related items
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Sale of Student Loans Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 24-EN also published.
Thursday, 24 January 2008
Bills
House of Lords
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Sale of Student Loans Bill. As amended in Grand Committee.
Thursday, 8 May 2008
Bills
House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Baroness Verma | 701 c177-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6: 6: Clause 1, page 2, line 11, at end insert— ““( ) In advance of entering i...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c172GC (Link to this contribution) It is a pertinent point, because we may see student loans sold on to foreign-owned banks. An answer ...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c169-71GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Sharp and Lady Verma, for their comments, giving me the opportuni...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c189GC (Link to this contribution) Like the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, I did not think that it was a private company.
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Lord Tunnicliffe | 701 c189GC (Link to this contribution) It may be helpful to know that we own it. Nevertheless, my understanding is that it was created unde...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) This gets even more confusing. All along, we have been clearly told that the loans would be sold thr...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c197GC (Link to this contribution) We are also extremely unhappy at the open-ended nature of this amendment. It seems in many senses to...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c205GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 20: 20: Clause 5, page 4, line 13, leave out ““2(2)”” and insert ““2”” On Que...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c173-4GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 3 and 5. I want to touch briefly on a matter that was the cause of ...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c172GC (Link to this contribution) It might be helpful if I write to the noble Baroness on that unless I come back to her later with a ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c171GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her reply and her sympathy with the cause that I have argued. She ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c189GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his spelling out of these things. As I suggested, my amendments we...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c186GC (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. The noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, is right: I call a spade a spade. The Bill specifi...
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Lord Tunnicliffe | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) We own the shares.
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Baroness Verma | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) Returning to the two amendments tabled in my name, it is important for clarity to the purchaser that...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c182-4GC (Link to this contribution) That calls into question whether that purchaser wants to be part of the securitisation process. If i...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c184GC (Link to this contribution) We are talking about a programme of sales, not a big, one-off sale. In truth, each sale will, no dou...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c185GC (Link to this contribution) As I have said, I will go back and have a good read of this. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. ...
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Lord Brougham and Vaux | 701 c199GC (Link to this contribution) I should advise the Committee that if Amendment No. 12 is agreed to I cannot call Amendment No. 13.
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c200-3GC (Link to this contribution) As we have heard, this group of amendments addresses onward sales. First, I think that we all share ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c194-6GC (Link to this contribution) I shall start by addressing Amendments Nos. 10 and 17 and then come back to Amendments Nos. 15 and 1...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c197-8GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baronesses for their comments. I hope I can come back with some reassurances. The ...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c204GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: Clause 3, page 3, line 27, at end insert— ““(8) References in this sec...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c180-2GC (Link to this contribution) I feel that I need to congratulate the Committee on anticipating some of the things that I am about ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c176-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for her reply. I am particularly delighted that she will take awa...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c176GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her response. I am still unsure about purchases that may be underwritten by...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c172-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Clause 1, page 2, line 4, at end insert— ““( ) Transfer arrangements sha...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c171GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that clarification. She is of course correct. The useful note to the Bill ...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c168-9GC (Link to this contribution) It is often noted that our job in this Committee is to give in-depth, line-by-line scrutiny to legis...
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Lord Tunnicliffe | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) The SLC is a non-departmental public body as well as a private company. The key thing is that it is ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c182GC (Link to this contribution) What happens if the purchaser stipulates that it wants to have loans where there is a good repayment...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c182GC (Link to this contribution) When we talk about the purchaser, we are talking about the special-purpose vehicle that will purchas...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c182GC (Link to this contribution) Suppose the purchaser says that it will make the purchase only if those are the loans in the basket?...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c184GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for trying to allay our fears. However, I am not an economist like the noble Ba...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c184-5GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that. My point is that I have a great concern that the current climate is n...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c185GC (Link to this contribution) I share the reservations expressed by the noble Baroness, Lady Verma, on this issue. It is important...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c185-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: 8: Clause 2, page 2, line 19, at end insert ““by such organisation as may b...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c199GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11: 11: Clause 3, page 3, line 20, at end insert— ““( ) Transfer arrangements ...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c204GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that clarification. However, the worry that we have on our Benches, as the ...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c196-7GC (Link to this contribution) I wholeheartedly agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, about how this impacts on students. With...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 9 not moved....
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c205-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 22 to 25: 22: Clause 6, page 4, line 18, leave out ““In relation to transfer...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c179-80GC (Link to this contribution) I have added my name to Amendment No. 6 and Amendment No. 7, which is in this group, is tabled in my...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c177GC (Link to this contribution) It is not on the face of the Bill. Therefore, the borrowers might be worried. The Teaching and Highe...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c177GC (Link to this contribution) The Bill does not allow the Government to transfer power to amend terms and conditions. The amendmen...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c174-6GC (Link to this contribution) I shall start with the last point first. The student loans payments are collected through HMRC along...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c171GC (Link to this contribution) Anonymised information will be available to those who are interested in becoming purchasers. Persona...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c171GC (Link to this contribution) A purchaser in the UK will abide by the legislative requirements here, but where is the data protect...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c167-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 13, at end insert ““including the obligation to p...
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Lord Tunnicliffe | 701 c186-9GC (Link to this contribution) This group of amendments covers repayment and collection arrangements after sales have been made. Th...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) I will have to go back and get some more questions for the Minister on that because I am slightly th...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c204GC (Link to this contribution) There will be provisions in the contract to ensure that the Secretary of State is notified of any on...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c203GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for her response. I see that gremlins have got into the amendments. I ...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c203-4GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, thank the Minister for her responses. The noble Baroness, Lady Sharp, raises some important ...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c200GC (Link to this contribution) My amendment is one of those little amendments that changes ““may”” to ““shall””. It refers to subse...
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Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 701 c199-200GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment No. 13, which is in my name. In doing so, I seek to clarify the situation...
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Lord Tunnicliffe | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State owns the loans. He will sell the loans. The SLC services them. It provides a ...
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Baroness Verma | 701 c190GC (Link to this contribution) Forgive me for persisting. I will take back the information I have got today, mull over it and perha...
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Baroness Morgan of Drefelin | 701 c190-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10: 10: Clause 2, page 2, line 30, at end insert— ““(4A) Transfer arrangements...
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Lord Tunnicliffe | 701 c199GC (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the Committee do now adjourn during pleasure until 4.29 pm. Moved accordingly, a...
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- Cost effectiveness Assets Graduates Privatisation Loans Repayments Students Revenue and Customs Student Loans Company
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- Sale of Student Loans Bill 2007-08
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