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Debate on bill on Wednesday, 4 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

European Union (Amendment) Bill

European Union (Amendment) Bill. Lords Report stage first day. Part 1 of 2 records.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c158-214 
Session
2007-08
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Legislative stage
Report stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c169 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was trying to give the Foreign Secretary the benefit of the doubt. He said in February t...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c167-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great delight to be at the beginning of Report stage. I shall follow fully the adv...
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Lord Waddington | 702 c167 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened most carefully to the debate and I simply cannot understand the objections...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 702 c166-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will intervene briefly to comment on the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Blackwell, a...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c166 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will do nothing of the sort. For the first time, the European Parliament will have a rol...
Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 702 c166 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. Will he tell the House which provisions in...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c165-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to support this amendment—I am just as entitled to make a contribution as an...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c171 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I think that we have learnt one or two things from this sho...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c169-71 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord had not interrupted me, I would have done exactly that. I was coming on ...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c158-61 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article 1, ...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c162-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I followed as far as I could the logic of the speech of the noble Lord in moving the amend...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c161-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord has said that he is not convinced that the provisions of the treaty, in res...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c164 (Link to this contribution) It is their policy, too, my Lords. The Government are a little closer to what I regard as an effecti...
Baroness Park of Monmouth | 702 c164-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a different concern. The existing EU delegations are already very generously staffe...
Lord Blackwell | 702 c164 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am continually struck that those who tell us how important this treaty is, hasten to say...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c186 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise, because I really do not like intervening. The decoupling took place five year...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c184 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. My noble friend Lady Carnegy is absolutely right to say that this...
Lord Harrison | 702 c184 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the point I go back to is that there are many other paths by which all of us collectively ...
Baroness Carnegy of Lour | 702 c183-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord reflects for a moment, we are discussing this now because we are discuss...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c185-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not casting aspersions on the process. I am speaking to the amendment put down by th...
Lord Grenfell | 702 c185 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord. As chairman of the Select Committee that approved the rep...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c182-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, is absolutely fair in the way that he presents it. In my crit...
Lord Harrison | 702 c183 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I have spoken in earlier debates on the Bill, I have asked your Lordships to consider...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall give way once more, but I really do want to get on with my speech.
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that noble Lords will recognise that I am seeking a consensus on this issue. I do n...
Lord Dykes | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord and I shall be brief. The noble Lord gave a generalis...
Duke of Montrose | 702 c178-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in following my noble friend on this issue, I hope that he will forgive me if I look at th...
Earl Ferrers | 702 c180-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to cast an observation, because we are talking about the common agricultural ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c196 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, until the last few phrases of the Minister’s summing up, I felt that I was going to be in ...
Lord Bach | 702 c196 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to be rude to the noble Lord, but it is an absurd question. It depends on wh...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c195 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at Report I believe that I am able to press the noble Lord on unanswered questions. I know...
Lord Bach | 702 c195 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have already considered that. There have been various comments made by various people bo...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c194-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to intervene and I am most obliged to the noble Lord for giving away. But I ask...
Lord Bach | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me be fair: McSharry was the high point of the Conservative Government’s reforms. But ...
Duke of Montrose | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am trying to recollect the timing on all these things. As far as I remember, there was a...
Lord Bach | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have heard one or two comments about that letter, but they will not stop the Government...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister mentioned the very good letter sent by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the...
Lord Bach | 702 c191-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I am certainly not going to ta...
Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 702 c190-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment, and I shall speak to it briefly. In doing so, I shal...
Lord Bach | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that anything I have said can really be considered to be championing the co...
Earl Ferrers | 702 c194 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not quite understand how it is that the Government champion the common agricultural p...
Lord Selsdon | 702 c187 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope I will not bore you Lordships by approaching this from another point of view. I dec...
Lord Selsdon | 702 c187-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is wonderful. He wants to be able to make his own decisions. The noble Lord has not d...
Lord Sewel | 702 c186-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my position is that there have been significant reforms in the common agricultural policy ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not reached that point in my argument. It will be possible to discuss the common ag...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord properly mentioned tomorrow afternoon’s debate. Is there anything preventin...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, none the less, there was a trade-off, which was, indeed, the incentive for the Government ...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for interrupting my noble friend, but when he uses the term ““trade-off”” for ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c175-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article 2, ...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the noble Lord reflect on his comment that the Government were persuaded to give up t...
Lord Howell of Guildford | 702 c171-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fear that there is a tendency to try to move away from the middle ground of sensible dis...
Baroness Hanham | 702 c207-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not going to press this amendment to a Division, which is just as well. Listening to ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c208-10 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12: 12: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) any provi...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c210-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am beginning to think of the opt-in, opt-out area as rather like the Schleswig-Holstein ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c211-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am terribly sorry that I missed the birthday and wedding anniversary of the noble Lord, ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c212 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I put to the Minister an extension of her examples of an IT package or the costs of our st...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c212 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I could think of a realistic example, I would be more inclined to consider it. However,...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c212 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I respond first to the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, who used emotive language abo...
Lord Boston of Faversham | 702 c200 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must point out that, if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 4 or ...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c200-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I oppose the amendments. Two of the main benefits and advantages of the Lisbon treaty are,...
Baroness Hanham | 702 c199-200 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: 3: Clause 2, page 1, line 12, after ““excluding”” insert— ““(i) Article 2, ...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 702 c204 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in two or three sentences, I would just like to say that the exposition by the noble Baron...
Lord Monson | 702 c203 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may ask the noble Baroness a question before she sits down. She explained very w...
Baroness Ludford | 702 c203-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 5, as I understand it—I may have misread it—is not about immigration but abo...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c206-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, indeed they do. That is an important aspect of the way in which the UK Government make sur...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c204-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, praise indeed for the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford and I welcome her cameo performance. Sh...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 702 c206 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I simply ask for information. I recall visiting NCIS some years ago and meeting a number o...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c213-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, because I sat down too early and did not get to the nub o...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c214 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that has been a most valuable undertaking by the Minister. I am grateful to her for going ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 702 c213 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as Leader of the House, I am very clear that we should use Third Reading for the purposes ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c213 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was more said apropos the Companion than to take forward the discussion. I remind the...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 702 c212-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have many friends in the European Union, but I would not expect them to draw back if I h...
Lord Bach | 702 c214 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving the Motion, I sugge...
Lord Tomlinson | 702 c181-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened with great interest to the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, introducing his amendment. ...
Lord Willoughby de Broke | 702 c184-5 (Link to this contribution) It is called a health check; it is not a reform. The aim of the health check was simply to see wheth...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c182 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to establish a dialogue on this issue but let me repeat the words I actually...
Lord Sewel | 702 c186 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am going to resist the temptation to give a preview of the debate that we are going to h...
Lord Teverson | 702 c189-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is clear that all sides of the House do not think that the common agricultural policy i...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 702 c177 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is exactly my point. We have reason to demand that the Government obtain their part o...
Subjects
Asylum Common fisheries policy Diplomatic service Borders Immigration European Union European communities Food Foreign policy Prices Treaties Security UK membership of EU Common agricultural policy Quotas Treaty of Lisbon Frontex
Legislation
European Union (Amendment) Bill 2007-08
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