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Debate on bill on Monday, 16 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

Health and Social Care Bill

Health and Social Care Bill. Lords report stage first day. Part 2 of 2 records.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c871-910 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department of Health
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Deposited Paper DEP2008-1684
Wednesday, 25 June 2008
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House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2008-1665
Tuesday, 24 June 2008
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hayman | 702 c879 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are dealing with Amendment No. 10 as an amendment to Amendment No. 9, so it would helpf...
Baroness Stern | 702 c879 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment No. 10, as an amendment to Amendment No....
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Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c879 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 12: 12: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Matters to which th...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c879-81 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13: 13: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Statement on user i...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 702 c882 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too welcome this group of amendments, showing, as they do, the Government’s commitment t...
Earl Howe | 702 c881-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have no hesitation in saying that in this cluster of amendments there is one rather larg...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 702 c882 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, welcome the amendment, but will the service users or carers be able to state their...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c882 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want briefly to intervene and make a suggestion. The statement on user involvement state...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c883 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause— ““Meaning of ““health...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c882-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, all I really need to say is that we are grateful for the thanks that have been expressed f...
Earl Howe | 702 c883-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15: 15: Clause 4, page 3, line 4, leave out paragraph (b) The noble Earl said...
Baroness Tonge | 702 c884-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to speak very briefly. It is unusual for me to disagree with the noble Earl, ...
Baroness Cumberlege | 702 c872-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is very difficult to get this right without sounding like a creep and being patronising...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c871-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7: 7: Clause 2, page 2, line 9, leave out subsections (3) to (5) The noble Ba...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 702 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, are they not in the same group?
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 702 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 9 has not been spoken to, so I cannot call Amendments Nos. 10 and ll. Perhap...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c874 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: 9: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““The Commission’s obje...
Baroness Stern | 702 c875-6 (Link to this contribution) moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 9, Amendment No. 10: 10: After Clause 2, line 4, after ““s...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c873 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to say a few words on proposed new sub subsection (1)(e) referred to by the noble B...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 702 c873-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very concerned that prison health is not mentioned in the Government's bundle of amen...
Baroness Stern | 702 c874 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to respond to the invitation from the Minister to speak to Amendments Nos. 10...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 702 c874 (Link to this contribution) After I have put Amendments Nos. 7 and 8 and moved on to Amendment No. 9 the noble Baroness can spea...
Baroness Meacher | 702 c877 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to speak to this amendment but I wish to support the amendment of my no...
Baroness Barker | 702 c876 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to address an issue in Amendment No. 10. In doing so, I thank the Minister for the ...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c879 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it will not be written into this part of the Bill. We do not believe that it is appropria...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c878 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not say it was possible; you would have to completely disregard the proportionality,...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c877-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Dubs and the noble Earl and noble Baroness for their contribu...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c878 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend did not say that it was not possible. I was seeking to find out whether it...
Earl Howe | 702 c877 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would be wrong if I did not add my few words of thanks to those of my noble friend Lady...
Lord Warner | 702 c885-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have over here the small corner of ex-directors of social services. I have huge regard...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c886 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, following the brief discussion on the interaction between Ofsted and the Care Quality Comm...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 702 c885 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Earl, Lord Howe, has put the argument about the difficulty of inspecting schools...
Earl Howe | 702 c887-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: 16: Clause 6, page 3, line 35, at end insert— ““( ) In this Part ““a perso...
Earl Howe | 702 c887 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken and I recognise that we are where we are....
Baroness Tonge | 702 c889 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I am delighted this time to support the noble Earl, Lord Howe, in Amendment No. 16....
Earl Howe | 702 c890 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a very helpful reply from the Minister. Of course I understand that, at this poin...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c890 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 17 and 18: 17: Clause 13, page 6, line 14, at end insert— ““(1A) The Commiss...
Earl Howe | 702 c890-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19: 19: Clause 16, page 8, line 11, at end insert ““including, in particular, ...
Baroness Meacher | 702 c892-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support Amendments Nos. 19 and 73 and to speak to Amendment No. 20. My noble fri...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c889-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have been consulting on which particular types of care services should be within the sc...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c895 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps the noble Baroness has read something into the amendment that is not quite there. ...
Baroness Barker | 702 c894-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to make a point in relation to Amendment No. 73. The National Health Service and lo...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c896-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a number of useful debates about what requirements should be set under Clause ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 702 c895-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendment No. 20, to which I have put my name. I shall speak briefly on it becau...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c901 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23: 23: Clause 30, page 16, line 1, leave out subsections (2) and (3) and inse...
Baroness Barker | 702 c901-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24: 24: Clause 35, page 17, line 41, at end insert— ““( ) to the General Socia...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c901 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend and I shall refer her remarks to the colleague with whom ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c901 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22: 22: Clause 22, page 11, line 35, after ““than”” insert ““by virtue of sect...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c898-900 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21: 21: Clause 16, page 8, line 16, leave out from ““for”” to end of line 21 a...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c900-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours who outlined these very serious issues in hi...
Earl Howe | 702 c897-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much welcome the Minister’s reply on the issues raised by Amendment No. 19. I am gr...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c902-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, looking first at Amendment No. 33, I agree with the noble Baroness that assessing the qual...
Baroness Barker | 702 c902 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is such riveting stuff that it is desperately difficult to keep away. I return to two ...
Baroness Stern | 702 c905-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28: 28: Clause 41, page 20, line 5, leave out ““may”” and insert ““shall”” Th...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c905 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 26 and 27: 26: Clause 39, page 19, line 10, after ““any”” insert ““regulated...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c904 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 25: 25: Clause 38, page 18, line 38, after ““where”” insert ““a person who was...
Baroness Barker | 702 c904 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. I take his point about the GSCC and it is a helpful s...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c908-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for those largely helpful comments. The amendments relate specific...
Lord Warner | 702 c907-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to speak at such a late hour, but I feel that I must raise an area of c...
Earl Howe | 702 c906-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Amendments Nos. 34A and 34B, which are grouped here, I turn to an issue that I consider...
Baroness Stern | 702 c910 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that very full reply. It will probably benefit from being read at...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 702 c889 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Earl has set out the case very clearly, but I wanted to follow through briefly o...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 702 c877 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Stern. I have seen services that offer...
Baroness Thornton | 702 c910 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned. Moved accordingly, and, on Q...
Subjects
Complaints Carers Agency nurses Hospitals Health services Families Human rights Disease control Employment agencies Infectious diseases General Social Care Council NHS Patients Managers Public participation Mental Health Act Commission MRSA Registration Temporary employment Regulation Social services Healthcare Commission Commission for Social Care Inspection Care Quality Commission Local involvement networks
Legislation
Health and Social Care Bill 2007-08
Link
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