Debate on bill on Tuesday, 24 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

Health and Social Care Bill

Health and Social Care Bill. Lords Report stage second day. Concluded. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 68).

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 702 c1339-412
Session: 2007-08
Department: Department of Health
Legislative stage: Report stage
Procedure: New clauses
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Health and Social Care Bill. As amended on Report.
Tuesday, 24 June 2008
Bills
House of Lords; Health and Social Care Bill. As amended in Grand Committee.
Thursday, 22 May 2008
Bills
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2008-1706
Thursday, 26 June 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2008-1712
Friday, 27 June 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2008-1713
Friday, 27 June 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords; Deposited Paper DEP2008-1722
Monday, 30 June 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords; Health Act 1999
Wednesday, 30 June 1999
Public acts
Proceeding contributions: Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c1339-42 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 30: 30: Clause 41, page 20, line 23, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of Sta...; Baroness Barker | 702 c1343-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I share with the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, a passionate wish to protect very vuln...; Lord Ramsbotham | 702 c1342-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, in his amendment. I do so from a backgrou...; Baroness Barker | 702 c1352 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, would welcome clarity from the noble Lord, Lord Warner, and the Minister that ““co...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1352 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Warner for his considered comments and for taking us...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 34: 34: Clause 42, page 20, line 36, leave out from ““services”” to end of lin...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1353 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 35: 35: Clause 43, page 21, line 30, leave out ““or modified”” On Question, a...; Baroness Murphy | 702 c1350-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my thanks and appreciation to the Minister for giving a good deal of clarification o...; Earl Howe | 702 c1351 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, prior to the first day of Report, the noble Lord, Lord Warner, tabled a number of amendmen...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1353 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 36 and 37: 36: Clause 44, page 22, line 9, at end insert— ““(4A) The Commiss...; Lord Warner | 702 c1353-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 38: 38: After Clause 45, insert the following new Clause— ““Failings by Englis...; Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c1346 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am indebted to the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, and the noble Baronesses, Lady Barker, L...; Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 702 c1345 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise, in particular to the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, for arriving late—I w...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1345-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I know that my noble friend feels passionately about inspections. I have listened to and c...; Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 702 c1344 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, listened to that very moving and extremely perceptive report by the BBC. I am sure...; Baroness Masham of Ilton | 702 c1344-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, should like to support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savour...; Baroness Hayman | 702 c1350 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps it would assist the House if I made it clear that at the moment we are debating Am...; Lord Warner | 702 c1350 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise.; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1346-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32: 32: Clause 42, page 20, line 27, leave out from ““care”” to end of line 28...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1361-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fully support the intention behind this amendment, which is to encourage the independent...; Baroness Meacher | 702 c1363 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister sits down, perhaps I may respond quickly to his response to my brief r...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1363 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree; it is a relevant point. I am sure that one day this information will be publicly ...; Earl Howe | 702 c1363 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister's reply was particularly helpful, and I am grateful to him for setting out in...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1363-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 45 and 46: 45: Clause 79, page 38, line 34, leave out ““and”” 46: Clause 7...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1364 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 47: 47: Clause 81, page 40, line 3, leave out subsection (5) On Question, ame...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1364 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 48: 48: After Clause 91, insert the following new Clause— ““Crown application ...; Lord Ramsbotham | 702 c1360 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the noble Earl, Lord Howe, in his amendment. My support relates to our pre...; Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c1354-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 40: 40: Clause 57, page 28, line 26, at end insert— ““( ) Where a report has b...; Baroness Masham of Ilton | 702 c1356 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, how lucky the mother of the noble Lord, Lord Campbell-Savours, is to have a caring son who...; Lord Geddes | 702 c1354 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord has spoken to the amendment, so I must propose the Question. I do not know ...; Lord Warner | 702 c1354 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was slightly chastised by the noble Lord’s predecessor on the Woolsack for my earlier sp...; Lord Campbell-Savours | 702 c1357-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened carefully to what my noble friend said. She emphasised more than once that the ...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1358 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 41 and 42: 41: Clause 60, page 30, line 29, leave out ““pursuant to arrangem...; Lord Neill of Bladen | 702 c1356-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to add one word in support of the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Ca...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1357 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 40 concerns the display of information on providers’ premises, which we disc...; Earl Howe | 702 c1358-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 43: 43: Clause 66, page 32, line 40, at end insert ““, and (c) the Independent...; Baroness Meacher | 702 c1359-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Earl, Lord Howe, in his Amendment No. 43. He has put a powerful case f...; Lord Walton of Detchant | 702 c1382-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate the concern expressed by the noble Baroness. I wonder whether she is aware th...; Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 702 c1380-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 56C: 56C: After Clause 107, insert the following new Clause— ““Dentists regist...; Baroness Tonge | 702 c1378 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, oppose the amendment, for two reasons, the first of which has not been mentioned t...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1380 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for her detailed response and explanation. I certainly ...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1378-80 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments relate to a crucial part of the package of reforms on professional regulati...; Lord Walton of Detchant | 702 c1376-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment tabled by my noble friend Baroness Finlay. I confess that my exper...; Baroness Emerton | 702 c1377 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having had the experience many years ago of chairing the professional conduct committee of...; Baroness Murphy | 702 c1377-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am afraid that I will disappoint some of my medical and nursing colleagues. We had arriv...; Lord Patel | 702 c1378 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have been egged on to speak by the noble Baroness, Lady Murphy. At Second Reading I supp...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1365 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 54: 54: Clause 92, page 46, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) Any reference in thi...; Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 702 c1366 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment No. 56 is in this group. I am sorry that I did not speak before the noble Lor...; Lord Walton of Detchant | 702 c1367 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, could the Clerk clarify the rules at Report stage? It is my belief and understanding that ...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1368 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of the noble Earl, Lord Howe. He rightly highlighted t...; Baroness Golding | 702 c1367 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that clarification. I wish to speak to Amendment No. 54A, move...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1364 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 49: 49: Schedule 5, page 145, line 1, at end insert— ““Local Government and Pu...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1364-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 50 to 52: 50: Clause 92, page 45, line 9, leave out ““by or pursuant to arra...; Earl Howe | 702 c1373-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Trimble is as ever a powerful advocate for devolved decision-making i...; Lord Rogan | 702 c1373 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, lest the House think for a moment that pharmacists in Northern Ireland are regulated in an...; Baroness Tonge | 702 c1372-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the absence of anyone else, I express my puzzlement at this amendment. If I were still ...; Lord Trimble | 702 c1370-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 55: 55: Schedule 8, page 170, line 21, leave out paragraph 2 and insert— ““2 (...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1375-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 56A: 56A: Clause 107, page 54, line 9, leave out ““is”” and insert ““may be”” ...; Lord Trimble | 702 c1374-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her comments. I am happy that she clearly understood the purpose ...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1374 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 55 would require any order made under Section 60 of the Health Act 1999 to b...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1368-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 54A would require the same number of lay members and professionally qualifie...; Earl Howe | 702 c1370 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a useful debate and I thank every noble Lord who has contributed to it. The ...; Baroness Tonge | 702 c1368 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly for the sake of completeness to add my support to the amendment tabled by t...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1388-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 59: 59: Clause 116, page 64, line 26, at end insert— ““( ) In making regulatio...; Earl Howe | 702 c1389 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I feel I need to say no more than how grateful I am to the Minister for having taken these...; Baroness Barker | 702 c1389 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lady Tonge took a specific interest in this issue and we very much welcome...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1389-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the welcome given to these amendments. The noble Baroness Lady Barker, a...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1389 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to detain the House but simply reiterate the thanks expressed. The Minister ...; Earl Howe | 702 c1393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, very briefly, I thank the Minister for having taken away many of the concerns raised in Gr...; Lord Dubs | 702 c1391-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Stern, is not able to be here this evening so she has asked me to...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1390-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 60: 60: Clause 124, page 69, line 33, leave out ““or disposal of dead bodies o...; Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 702 c1383 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if you are a social worker, you do not remain registered unless you keep up your practice ...; Baroness Tonge | 702 c1383 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Walton, made me realise that the same thing is going t...; Lord Colwyn | 702 c1383 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support my noble friend. As a dentist who has retired and does perhaps two or thre...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1383-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not quite realised that this was such a hot issue. I know that the noble Baroness, L...; Earl Howe | 702 c1385-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 57: 57: Clause 108, page 54, line 28, at end insert— ““( ) After subsection (2...; Baroness Gardner of Parkes | 702 c1384-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken in this debate. As the noble Lord, Lord Walton, was not ...; Earl Howe | 702 c1387-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a very helpful reply. The House may like to know that I was prompted to table the...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1386-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 57 would require the CHRE to commission independent information and advice s...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1388 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 58: 58: Clause 111, page 56, leave out lines 19 to 23 On Question, amendment ...; Lord Dubs | 702 c1396 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for the detailed way in which he dealt with the various p...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1393-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Dubs for supporting this amendment. The noble Barone...; Baroness Barker | 702 c1393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister in particular for taking away the point made by ourselves and the nob...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1395-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, subsections (1) and (2) of new Section 45D in Clause 114 of the Bill provide a safeguard i...; Earl Howe | 702 c1395 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, has spoken extremely well to this group of amendments. Briefly,...; Lord Dubs | 702 c1394-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 61: 61: Clause 124, page 69, line 46, leave out from ““unless”” to ““the”” in ...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1401-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fully appreciate the intention behind this amendment to achieve maximum transparency abo...; Lord Dubs | 702 c1397-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 68A: 68A: Clause 124, page 79, line 13, at end insert ““, except an instrument...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1397 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 63 to 68: 63: Clause 124, page 72, leave out line 47 and insert— ““(d) in th...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1398 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to speak against the very erudite speech of the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, but I am...; Lord Dubs | 702 c1400 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend is the most persuasive of Ministers, and I say that in a complimentary and...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1398-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendments Nos. 68A and 68B would alter the effect of new Section 45R, which enables publi...; Earl Howe | 702 c1400-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 69: 69: Clause 134, page 89, line 12, at end insert— ““(2A) Each Primary Care ...; Earl Howe | 702 c1408-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I could not have asked for a more welcome reply from the Minister. I thank her for listeni...; Earl Howe | 702 c1402-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 70: 70: After Clause 134, insert the following new Clause— ““GMS contracts: pa...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1408 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Section 164 of the National Health Service Act 2006 allows the Secretary of State to autho...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1407-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment and the principles behind it. As well as providing important front...; Baroness Barker | 702 c1407 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Earl in his attempts to join our ongoing campaign to secure the future...; Earl Howe | 702 c1406-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 71: 71: Schedule 12, page 187, line 11, at end insert— ““( ) In section 164(5)...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c1410 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that when the Minister replies he also comments on episodes of care and where they ...; Earl Howe | 702 c1409-10 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 72: 72: Clause 136, page 90, line 12, leave out subsection (6) and insert— ““(...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1412 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 75 to 76: 75: Clause 156, page 105, line 45, after ““(3)”” insert ““or (4)””...; Earl Howe | 702 c1412 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rather suspected that that would be the Minister’s reply. I do of course thank him for w...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1412 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 77: 77: Clause 164, page 109, line 21, at end insert— ““(1A) Subsection (1)(b)...; Baroness Masham of Ilton | 702 c1410 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment. Complaints procedures can be very complicated. A lot of distress ...; Baroness Barker | 702 c1410 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to prolong the debate any further, but a clear statement from the Minister i...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1411-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 136 widens the entry eligibility of indemnity schemes created under Section 71 of t...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1339 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the Bill be now further considered on Report. Moved accordingly, and, ...; Lord Warner | 702 c1360-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that this amendment is the right way forward, but the points made by the no...; Lord Dubs | 702 c1396-7 (Link to this contribution) moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 62, Amendment No. 62A: 62A: Clause 124, line 5, after ““pe...; Earl Howe | 702 c1402 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a helpful reply. I am grateful to the Minister for saying that transparency is ke...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1404-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 70 would establish a quality and outcomes framework review panel to advise o...; Lord Warner | 702 c1349-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to speak briefly in support of the government amendments in this group before movin...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1363 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44: 44: Clause 77, page 37, line 34, leave out from second ““time”” to ““prepa...; Earl Howe | 702 c1365 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 54A: 54A: Clause 95, page 47, line 20, at end insert ““, provided that the num...; Lord Walton of Detchant | 702 c1365-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the principle underlying the amendment. I declare an interest: from 1982 to 1989...; Baroness Thornton | 702 c1367 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness was speaking to her amendment, not moving it. The rules state that you ...; Earl Howe | 702 c1405-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her reply and for her offer to write to me. That would b...; Baroness Meacher | 702 c1344 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to make one point very much in support of the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Ca...; Lord Darzi of Denham | 702 c1396 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 62: 62: Clause 124, page 71, leave out lines 18 to 21 and insert— ““(6A) Regul...
Subjects: Complaints Disclosure of information Dental services Contracts Devolved matters Care homes Advisory services Health Health services Fees and charges Inspections Health professions General practitioners Local government NHS Medical treatments Northern Ireland Public appointments Pharmacy Older people Primary care trusts Negligence NHS foundation trusts Quarantine Scotland Registration Standards Regulation Social services Commission for Social Care Inspection Council for Healthcare Regulatory Excellence Monitor Care Quality Commission Office of the Health Professions Adjudicator Local involvement networks
Legislation: Health and Social Care Bill 2007-08
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