Opposition day on Wednesday, 21 January 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Lansley. The answering member was Ben Bradshaw.
Emergency Care
Emergency care. First Opposition Day debate (part 1). Main question negatived on division (306 to 230). Amendment agreed to on question.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 486 c759-813
- Session
- 2008-09
- Department
- Department of Health
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
- Proceeding contributions
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Speaker | 486 c783 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind all right hon. and hon. Members that Mr. Speaker has imposed a 15-minute time limit ...
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Bob Spink | 486 c805 (Link to this contribution) That is very kind of the Minister. On specialist trauma units, does he agree that getting people wit...
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Ben Bradshaw | 486 c805 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the hon. Gentleman, particularly as his former colleague, the hon. Member for He...
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Speaker | 486 c809 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the No Lobby.
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Ben Bradshaw | 486 c805-9 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. The hon. Gentleman has pointed to the inherent contradiction in the Conservatives' polic...
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Speaker | 486 c813 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before we move on to the next debate, I should observe that Mr. Speaker expects Divisions to ...
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Nadine Dorries | 486 c795-6 (Link to this contribution) That is a really interesting statistic. Intubation has a huge impact on a patient's ability to get t...
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Speaker | 486 c796 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid that the hon. Lady's time is up. I apologise—there was a mistake on the clock. It...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c801 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Mike Penning | 486 c799-800 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to respond to the debate on behalf of Her Majesty's Opposition on such an important...
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Bob Spink | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Mike Penning | 486 c801-2 (Link to this contribution) No, I have to stick to my time; that is the problem with this sort of debate. The point is that the ...
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Stephen O'Brien | 486 c797 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is to be congratulated on the tremendous vigour with which he has fought the campaign...
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Edward Timpson | 486 c796-7 (Link to this contribution) May I add my praise and admiration for the dedication, professionalism and sheer hard graft of all t...
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Edward Timpson | 486 c797-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has got to the nub of the issue. One of the community first res...
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Bob Spink | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) Conservative Front Benchers intervened five times, so the hon. Gentleman should give way—
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Speaker | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) Order. We do not want sedentary comments from any part of the House, as they do not help the debate....
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Mike Penning | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) I said no to the Government side, so I am saying no to this side—[Interruption.] Believe me, I meant...
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Ben Bradshaw | 486 c805 (Link to this contribution) I assure the hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mike Penning) that I was shaking my head not because I...
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Mike Penning | 486 c802-4 (Link to this contribution) I stand corrected. This is fantastic: the Great Western trust is being looked after by the West Midl...
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Richard Taylor | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) It is the West Midlands Ambulance Service NHS Trust.
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Mike Penning | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, I was informed that it was the Great Western trust.
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Richard Taylor | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.
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Mike Penning | 486 c802 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. My hon. Friend the Member for West Chelmsford and others raised the ...
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Simon Burns | 486 c786-7 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that we have the opportunity today to debate emergency and urgent care in the NHS. I ...
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Bob Spink | 486 c784 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
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Joan Ryan | 486 c783-4 (Link to this contribution) First, let me pay tribute to the hospital in my constituency, Chase Farm hospital. It has been much ...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c787-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an important point. He will know, as I do from spending Friday and Saturday ev...
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Richard Taylor | 486 c790-1 (Link to this contribution) By amazingly happy coincidence, the NHS constitution was published this morning, and I want to read ...
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Simon Burns | 486 c789-90 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I wrote to the Minister only yesterday because I have been sent a series of allegations ...
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Richard Taylor | 486 c791-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention; I should have mentioned NHS Direct, which I will get out of the...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c791 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman and he will no doubt have noticed from what we have said ov...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c795 (Link to this contribution) There is a related issue. In a road traffic accident, the ambulance service will obviously aim to di...
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Nadine Dorries | 486 c792-5 (Link to this contribution) I come to this debate with a range of experience of accident and emergency units. I was working in t...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c789 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt my hon. Friend, who is making an important point, but it might be of interes...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c789 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is being generous in giving way. It is important for us to understand exactly what is...
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Simon Burns | 486 c789 (Link to this contribution) Very much so. It would be interesting to hear what the Minister has to say about that. There is anot...
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Simon Burns | 486 c779 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady is correct in saying that the clock starts when the call commences—presumably we ar...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c774 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State lectures us about the working time directive, but ignores the point that real...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c776 (Link to this contribution) That point is worth looking into, and I will do so. We currently have the best performance ever from...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c776-9 (Link to this contribution) I welcome this debate. When I first read the Conservative motion, I thought it was a bit of a hotch-...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c775-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the process should be judged by the profession of the person chairing it. Someon...
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Graham Stuart | 486 c776 (Link to this contribution) Yorkshire ambulance service, with which the Secretary of State will be familiar, provides data by lo...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c775 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for encouraging them, Madam Deputy Speaker. The hon. Member for South Cambridgeshire is...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c775 (Link to this contribution) It was a useful idea to have all these workstreams at each SHA level, but I am somewhat confused by ...
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Speaker | 486 c774 (Link to this contribution) Order. If hon. Members wish to make a point, I think that they know the parliamentary procedures for...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c779 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the people who take three minutes are predominantly to be found in Chelmsford an...
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Simon Burns | 486 c779 (Link to this contribution) No, it is not a trivial point at all—
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Nadine Dorries | 486 c781-2 (Link to this contribution) Would the hon. Lady be satisfied with an assurance that an ambulance would try to get to those who n...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c782 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my choice of words was unfortunate, but at the moment the response times are based on large ...
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Simon Burns | 486 c782 (Link to this contribution) May I try again on the targets? Despite the look on the hon. Lady's face, I think that she misunders...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c782 (Link to this contribution) The level playing field to which I referred was between trusts. There has been significant variation...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c779-80 (Link to this contribution) No, I will continue with the point that I was intending to raise. Just before Christmas, the pressur...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c780 (Link to this contribution) This is the same speech as in the Westminster Hall debate.
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c780-1 (Link to this contribution) This could be a debate that we have had in Westminster Hall, but as some hon. Members were not prese...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c770 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely—I did not say that it was, but that is what the Leader of the Opposition was saying. [Int...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c770 (Link to this contribution) That is not a quotation.
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Alan Johnson | 486 c770 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says, ““Nonsense!”” [Interruption.] Opposition Members are saying, ““No, no, no!”...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c768 (Link to this contribution) Let us wait and see. The problem with the Clinton proposals—it is questionable whether they were Bil...
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Simon Burns | 486 c769 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to say that I think that the Secretary of State is a little confused. He refers to the or...
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Simon Burns | 486 c768 (Link to this contribution) Would not the Secretary of State be even happier if President Obama had adopted the more extensive h...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c769-70 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the hon. Gentleman is wrong. America spends 16 per cent. of its wealth on the healt...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c769 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, I was referring to the original proposals, which I thought were hers as well. Let us move on...
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Andrew Murrison | 486 c769 (Link to this contribution) I am worried that the Secretary of State may be a little complacent. I do not think that President O...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c773-4 (Link to this contribution) The social chapter—the hon. Gentleman is right to correct me, as the social contract is something co...
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Mike Penning | 486 c773 (Link to this contribution) The social chapter.
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Mike Penning | 486 c770 (Link to this contribution) Get on with it.
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Alan Johnson | 486 c770-1 (Link to this contribution) Ah! Well, that is very interesting. As well as improving pay for staff on the lowest pay grades, ““...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c771 (Link to this contribution) I recently had occasion to visit the health service in my hon. Friend's constituency. Stroke care is...
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Andrew Murrison | 486 c771 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State agree that although stroke has emerged from the shadows as a true emerge...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c772-3 (Link to this contribution) We all accepted when we came into power in 1997 that the three major killers—cancer, heart disease a...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c773 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State agree or disagree with the College of Emergency Medicine when it argues ...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c773 (Link to this contribution) I would broadly agree with it; there is a strong argument for that, but it has to be decided locally...
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David Evennett | 486 c762 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a powerful case. I would like to commend the accident and emergency staff a...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c761-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that important point. In this debate, we need to press th...
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Tony Baldry | 486 c762-3 (Link to this contribution) It would be wrong to see the capacity challenges just as a winter issue. I have just done an analysi...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c762 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend reminds me that I visited Queen Mary's in Sidcup in the autumn, when I had the opport...
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Baroness Browning | 486 c761 (Link to this contribution) There seems to be an obvious correlation between the out-of-hours doctors service and people going t...
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Speaker | 486 c764 (Link to this contribution) Order. This is an intervention, not a speech. The right hon. Lady might get an opportunity to make a...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c763 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point, which also relates to emergency services in Banbury, even t...
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Andrew Murrison | 486 c763 (Link to this contribution) The high-tech end of medicine is extremely important, but would my hon. Friend agree that the wholes...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c763-4 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is very knowledgeable about these matters. I have discussed the issue with him and wi...
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Joan Ryan | 486 c764 (Link to this contribution) I am concerned about the selective and inaccurate way in which the hon. Gentleman is using the repor...
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Alistair Burt | 486 c765 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who has been extremely generous in giving time to colleagues. Befor...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c765 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way one more time and then I must make some progress, because I do not want to take up ...
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Alistair Burt | 486 c765 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Lord Lansley | 486 c765 (Link to this contribution) We are all very concerned to have better access to primary care. The Commonwealth Fund, which Minist...
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David Wright | 486 c764-5 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Gentleman's point about surge capacity in urgent care, but may I return him to...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c764 (Link to this contribution) Let us stay in this century shall we? The College of Emergency Medicine said in its report:"““We fin...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c767-8 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Lady's point, but I think that she does us a disservice. My hon. Friend the Me...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c768 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move an amendment, to leave out from ““appropriate”” to the end of the Question and add:"““...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c765-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a vital point. It is astonishing that Labour MEPs would not adhere even to thei...
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Ann Cryer | 486 c766 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Shipley (Philip Davies), who is my MP, spoke in glowing terms about Bradford roy...
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Philip Davies | 486 c760 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for thanking the staff at Bradford royal infirmary for their hard wo...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c760 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend and heartily endorse what he says. Happily, it is agreed across thi...
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Speaker | 486 c759 (Link to this contribution) I inform the House that I have selected the amendment in the name of the Prime Minister.
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Lord Lansley | 486 c759-60 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House acknowledges the excellent reputation of emergency and urgent care se...
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Simon Burns | 486 c760 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend rightly, like many hon. Members, praises, thanks and congratulates nursing staff and ...
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Lord Lansley | 486 c760-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Staff at Broomfield hospital, which serves his constituency, will g...
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Joan Ryan | 486 c784-6 (Link to this contribution) I will not, because I have only 15 minutes. I am sorry that I cannot give way, but time is pressing....
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Lord Soames of Fletching | 486 c788 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that the increased workload comes on top of substantial increases in the...
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Simon Burns | 486 c788 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my hon. Friend for an important and interesting example of a proactive se...
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Sandra Gidley | 486 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman does have a quick and easy answer, it is probably not appropriate for an inter...
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Simon Burns | 486 c788-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. He highlights another problem that has developed in the health service. It ...
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Alan Johnson | 486 c774 (Link to this contribution) I am raising this because I was asked about the opt-out in an earlier intervention, but the opt-out ...
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Speaker | 486 c779 (Link to this contribution) Order. Would the hon. Lady like to give way?
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Paul Truswell | 486 c771 (Link to this contribution) A few moments ago my right hon. Friend mentioned stroke, which the hon. Member for Westbury (Dr. Mur...
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- Admissions Crimes of violence Ancillary staff Ambulance services Doctors Hospitals Health services EU law Health professions Emergency calls NHS Primary care Standards Working hours Telephone services Reorganisation NHS Direct Accident and emergency departments Health centres
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