Debate on Monday, 14 December 2009, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Brabazon of Tara. The answering member was Baroness Royall of Blaisdon.
House of Lords: Financial Support for Members
Lords debate on motion to agree, in accordance with paragraph 7 of the Report from the House Committee on the SSRB Review of Financial Support for Members of the House of Lords (HL 12 2009-10): the architecture and principles of the new system proposed by the SSRB; that the House Committee should work to prepare resolutions to implement the proposals on a timescale which allows a new system to be operational from the start of the new Parliament; that an ad hoc group of members should be established to consider and consult on issues in the SSRB report and advise on their implementation; and that the House Committee should monitor and report on the effects of implementation of the new system after a year of operation. Agreed to on question.
Secondary information
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 715 c1317-84
- Session
- 2009-10
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- Chairman of Committees (HL)
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- House of Lords chamber
- Related items
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Senior Salaries Review Body report on senior salaries: review of financial support for Members of the House of Lords. (Chairman: Bill Cockburn). (Report no. 71).
Thursday, 26 November 2009
Command papers
House of Commons
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House Committee (HL) first report on SSRB Review of Financial Support for Members of the House of Lords.
Monday, 7 December 2009
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 715 c1317 (Link to this contribution) Moved By In accordance with paragraph 7 of the Report from the House Committee on the SSRB Review ...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 715 c1321-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have no doubt that the noble Lord, Lord Brabazon, will take back very strong messages, a...
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Lord Peston | 715 c1321 (Link to this contribution) I have no objection to my noble friend replying to the debate; my objection is to why the Chairman o...
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Lord Barnett | 715 c1322 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend has just told us about the relevance of our costs and the agreement of the Governmen...
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Lord Eden of Winton | 715 c1320 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, did the SSRB give any consideration to amalgamating the residence allowance with the atten...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 715 c1317-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in opening today’s debate, I should perhaps take a moment to explain the procedure that we...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 715 c1321 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Brabazon, the Chairman of Committees, for his skilfu...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 715 c1320-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am afraid that I cannot say whether the SSRB considered that or why it came to its concl...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 715 c1383-4 (Link to this contribution) No, my Lords, we are not dismissing elements of the report. We are saying that we adhere to the prin...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 715 c1376-82 (Link to this contribution) At the conclusion of our long debate, after 35 speakers, I want again to thank Members of your Lords...
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Lord Walton of Detchant | 715 c1374-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, much of what I propose to say has already been said; therefore, I shall be very brief. I r...
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Lord James of Blackheath | 715 c1375-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as we approach the end of this lengthy debate I should like to make a few points which der...
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Lord Sewel | 715 c1365-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had intended to give a speech today that started at the level of principle and worked it...
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Baroness Manningham-Buller | 715 c1367-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I stand with some hesitation at this stage in the evening, when it is late and because I a...
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Lord MacGregor of Pulham Market | 715 c1364-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that that is the relevant point. It is the relevant fee per day that is paid; that is...
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Lord Bassam of Brighton | 715 c1368 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can we hear from the noble Lord, Lord Shutt?
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Lord Shutt of Greetland | 715 c1368-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that this review needed doing. Unless there is some extreme provocation, I expec...
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Earl of Caithness | 715 c1370-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think it is the turn of the Conservatives. I supported the reference to the SSRB, but it...
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Baroness Butler-Sloss | 715 c1373 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is imperative that this House now accepts for the time being the SSRB report, with all ...
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Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 715 c1364 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the honourable Member would agree—
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Lord MacGregor of Pulham Market | 715 c1363-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the House will forgive me for making a brief intervention. I do not share all...
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Lord Low of Dalston | 715 c1362-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for interrupting him just now. I am afraid th...
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Lord Graham of Edmonton | 715 c1360-2 (Link to this contribution) Very often at this stage of a debate someone will rise and say that everything that could be said ha...
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Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 715 c1364 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry; I am sure that the noble Lord would agree that the heading in annex 7 refers to other pa...
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Lord Wakeham | 715 c1359-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intended to say only a few words as I am a member of the House Committee. In view of the...
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Lord Greaves | 715 c1359 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, I have not finished yet. I beg your pardon. I was pausing to consider the one other thin...
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Lord Greaves | 715 c1356-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is this side’s turn now. I agree with the basic sentiments put forward by my noble fri...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 715 c1353 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps it would be helpful if I clarified this point. At the beginning of the debate, I said that I...
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 715 c1352-3 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is referring to gargoyles in the context of the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde. I do no...
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Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 715 c1353 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord had difficulty in finding another example of people in paid employment wh...
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 715 c1353 (Link to this contribution) I have nothing to add, except that I am very grateful for that elucidation of the position.
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Earl Ferrers | 715 c1353-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one can understand people getting worked up about expenses. The noble and learned Lord, Lo...
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Lord Howe of Aberavon | 715 c1350-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not often accompanied by a kind of Red Indian greeting. I shall take advantage of the...
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Earl of Onslow | 715 c1352 (Link to this contribution) Surely, the figures could be regarded as gargoyles.
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 715 c1351-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very glad to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Howe. I will take one of his poi...
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Lord Greaves | 715 c1350 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I give way to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Howe.
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Lord Greaves | 715 c1350 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think it is our turn.
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Lord Barnett | 715 c1348-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the former chairman of the SSRB has just urged us to accept the report, as have the leader...
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Lord Nickson | 715 c1346-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, after those five Exocets, perhaps I should declare an interest—not a pecuniary one but as ...
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Lord Palmer | 715 c1342-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am more than aware of the contempt in which Parliament is held today. I agree with many ...
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Lord Tyler | 715 c1340-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, to avoid unnecessary repetition, I shall concentrate on one very important issue that we h...
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Lord Peston | 715 c1338-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I started to read the SSRB report I did not expect to agree with it. However, I did e...
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Lord Crickhowell | 715 c1334-8 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it is just a heavy cold, for which I apologise, that makes me dislike this Motio...
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Lord McNally | 715 c1331 (Link to this contribution) And you make your speech later.
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Bishop of Chester | 715 c1332-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should make it clear at the outset that I speak personally on this matter, although, fro...
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Baroness D'Souza | 715 c1331-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a long awaited day. There is a full House to debate the report before us and expre...
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Lord Strathclyde | 715 c1325-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was delighted to be invited to speak early by the noble Lord, Lord Bassam, the Governmen...
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Lord McNally | 715 c1331 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I seriously suggest to the House that there is one golden rule in this: if you ask an exte...
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Lord Gordon of Strathblane | 715 c1331 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the noble Lord clarify whether he regards the overnight allowance as part of the archi...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 715 c1322-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did indeed notice that. The Prime Minister has many responsibilities in relation to the ...
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Earl Ferrers | 715 c1382-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Baroness sits down, I would be grateful if she would be kind enough to ge...
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Baroness Shephard of Northwold | 715 c1344-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have already enjoyed some lighter moments in the course of this debate, but, fundamenta...
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Lord McNally | 715 c1328-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Leader of the House and the Leader of the Opposition have done the House a service by ...
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Lord Martin of Springburn | 715 c1373-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to try the patience of the House. However, I welcome the proposal to put qua...
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