Estimates day on Wednesday, 10 March 2010, in the House of Commons, led by Louise Ellman. The answering member was Paul Clark.
Road Users (Taxes and Charges)
Supplementary estimates 2009-10. Second estimates day (part two). Motion that, for the year ending with 31 March 2010, for expenditure by the Department for Transport— (1) further resources, not exceeding £606,268,000, be authorised for use as set out in HC 257, (2) a further sum, not exceeding £257,734,000, be granted to Her Majesty out of the Consolidated Fund to meet the costs as so set out, and (3) limits as so set out be set on appropriations in aid. Question deferred. Resolved.
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Spring supplementary estimates for central government for 2009-10.
Tuesday, 23 February 2010
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- Proceeding contributions
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c374 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. The evidence from the Freight Transport Association is ...
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Christopher Fraser | 507 c384-5 (Link to this contribution) The first thing that my constituents want is fairness in pricing when using the road, which includes...
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John Leech | 507 c384 (Link to this contribution) On that basis, will the hon. Gentleman accept that under a road-pricing scheme proposed by the Liber...
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Christopher Fraser | 507 c384 (Link to this contribution) Compounding the problem that my right hon. Friend mentions is the fact that Norfolk has struggled ov...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c383-4 (Link to this contribution) It is indeed nonsense. I am pleased that my hon. Friend has raised that point today, given that the ...
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Greg Knight | 507 c384 (Link to this contribution) Is not one of the problems in Norfolk the fact that, for whatever reason, the council has hatched ou...
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Greg Knight | 507 c383 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a very good case, but does he agree that we could do more with our existing...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c382-3 (Link to this contribution) I thought that the hon. Gentleman's argument about road pricing was very thoughtful. It may be one o...
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Christopher Fraser | 507 c383 (Link to this contribution) I have written to the Highways Agency about signage, pointing out that it is impossible to obtain ac...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c383 (Link to this contribution) As always, my right hon. Friend has made an extremely constructive suggestion. Amazingly, the Depart...
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Norman Baker | 507 c382 (Link to this contribution) Is not one way forward to make better use of the existing road network and rather than sweating it f...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c381-2 (Link to this contribution) Well, I was shocked. Indeed, I asked the Secretary of State whether he thought that our constituents...
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Greg Knight | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) That is shocking.
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that Lewes has many potholes, too. There are far too many of them. This is a major issue; ...
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Norman Baker | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) And in Lewes.
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) Or Norfolk. Our roads are full of potholes.
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) Or Bridlington, even.
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Greg Knight | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) Or Bridlington.
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c381 (Link to this contribution) I am alarmed by the horrifying news that my right hon. Friend brings to the Chamber. It will be gree...
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Peter Soulsby | 507 c378-80 (Link to this contribution) May I begin by thanking the right hon. Gentleman for his comments about my service on the two Commit...
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Greg Knight | 507 c378 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a valuable member not only of the Transport Committee, but of the Procedure Co...
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Greg Knight | 507 c380 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that, even if the British Government were to freeze all taxes on motorists a...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c380 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to serve on the Transport Committee under the wise guidance of the hon. Member for Li...
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Greg Knight | 507 c376 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an interesting point. Does he accept that a road pricing scheme does no...
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Norman Baker | 507 c375-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention, which underlines my point. I say to the Minister in passing tha...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c376 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman think that motorists will consider such a scheme as revenue-neutral if it is...
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Norman Baker | 507 c376 (Link to this contribution) That would indeed be possible. The parameters of the road-pricing scheme are interesting. I attended...
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Peter Soulsby | 507 c377-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Chair of the Committee has given a clear exposition of the report, and it was a p...
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Norman Baker | 507 c376-7 (Link to this contribution) I will happily deal with that subject in a moment, because the elements are linked. The traditional ...
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Rosie Cooper | 507 c395 (Link to this contribution) I wonder why we are discussing that kind of thing if we cannot bring to the Minister's attention two...
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Paul Clark | 507 c395-6 (Link to this contribution) I recognise my hon. Friend's arguments. It is about striking a balance in our transport infrastructu...
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Paul Clark | 507 c394 (Link to this contribution) There is not a three-line whip that requires people in any given setting to have the most polluting ...
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Norman Baker | 507 c394-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for answering my points, but I am looking at policy in the round. Of course mos...
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Paul Clark | 507 c395 (Link to this contribution) The record investments that have been going into the railway system at a national level have been ma...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c390 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned foreign-registered vehicles other than lorries. Does he agree with me that ...
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Norman Baker | 507 c389 (Link to this contribution) Lorries would be caught by our proposed road pricing scheme, but as I explained, as part of the offs...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c390 (Link to this contribution) Yes, because the only way to incentivise people to fill up in the UK is by, in effect, by making fue...
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Paul Clark | 507 c393 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the hon. Gentleman raises the issue of vehicle excise duty. We have introduced t...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c393 (Link to this contribution) Her Majesty's Government could, of course, consider differential charging on vehicle excise duty whe...
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Christopher Fraser | 507 c394 (Link to this contribution) The Minister's point about tax bands is valid in relation to emissions, but even accepting that, som...
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Paul Clark | 507 c394 (Link to this contribution) There are always a number of schemes to be considered at any given time. We have introduced ours bec...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c393 (Link to this contribution) Has the Minister given any consideration to having a sliding scale of VED rather than bands? That wo...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c385-6 (Link to this contribution) May I draw the hon. Gentleman's attention to a section of the Committee's report that focuses specif...
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Christopher Fraser | 507 c386 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady. I am not here to make party political points, because I do not think that thi...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c386-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Member for Liverpool, Riverside (Mrs. Ellman) for presenting her report. When I fir...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c387 (Link to this contribution) And there was I thinking that the Whips organised everything in this place. I am heartened to hear t...
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Greg Knight | 507 c387 (Link to this contribution) Has my hon. Friend seen last year's report by Professor David Newbery of Cambridge university, who l...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c387 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes a very valid point. However, having just visited the US, where the price ...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c387 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend mentioned VED and the amount that it raises. Would it not be helpful if the Minister,...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c387-8 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Minister will refer to that. The hon. Member for Lewes (Norman Baker) said that he w...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c389 (Link to this contribution) Well, time will tell. I should be obliged if the hon. Gentleman gave me a detailed run-down of those...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c387 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might be interested to know that the decision to have this debate today was made ...
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Norman Baker | 507 c388-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is being uncharacteristically ill-informed. Let me make it clear that, first, we ...
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Norman Baker | 507 c374 (Link to this contribution) The period in question was from 1997; I was citing a parliamentary answer, as was the Chair of the S...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c369 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the Committee looked at the Dutch scheme in our deliberations, and we found that there seemed t...
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Lord Redwood | 507 c369 (Link to this contribution) The Select Committee looked at the Dutch scheme for road charging, which will be introduced over the...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c369-70 (Link to this contribution) The introduction of a charging scheme must always relate to the taxation system in the country conce...
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Norman Baker | 507 c369 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in that observation. There is indeed some support for road pricing in Holland—hon. M...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c367-9 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to open this debate. I shall focus on the key issues identified in the report of the Se...
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Speaker | 507 c367 (Link to this contribution) With this we will consider the following estimate: HM Revenue and Customs That, for the year endin...
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Philip Hollobone | 507 c374 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman said that the cost of motoring had gone down by 14 per cent., although I missed t...
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Norman Baker | 507 c373 (Link to this contribution) There are two separate issues, one of which is the regional imbalance. I have some sympathy—as does ...
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Lord Redwood | 507 c373 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman confirm that motorists have to pay not only all the costs of the road system...
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Norman Baker | 507 c372-3 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Transport Committee's report and the presentation given by the Chair, the hon. Member ...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c372 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his comments. I understand that a more detailed announcement about pr...
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William Cash | 507 c372 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady comment on the proposal from Lord Adonis for extremely fast trains to go through ...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c371-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his comments. It is unfortunate if the Government put undue pre...
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Greg Knight | 507 c371 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that the Government are still arm-twisting local authorities? For example, the co...
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Norman Baker | 507 c370 (Link to this contribution) Just to be clear on that point, the public seemed to oppose a road-pricing scheme that would take mo...
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Louise Ellman | 507 c370-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. The question put on the Downing street website was very simplistic and,...
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Christopher Fraser | 507 c384 (Link to this contribution) I want to make two or three specific points about the problems that we face in Norfolk. I have said ...
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Robert Goodwill | 507 c390-1 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I recently spent a day with the North Yorkshire police vehicle m...
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Paul Clark | 507 c391-3 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the work of the Transport Committee and its inquiry into taxes and charges on road users. ...
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