Adjournment debate on Thursday, 21 October 2010, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Beith. The answering member was Crispin Blunt.
Cutting Crime (Justice Reinvestment)
Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on cutting crime (justice reinvestment).
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 516 c323-68WH
- Session
- 2010-12
- Department
- Ministry of Justice
- Chamber / Committee
- Westminster Hall
- Related items
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Draft statutory Guidance for local duties on Child Poverty (Child Poverty Act 2010).
Wednesday, 18 August 2010
Command papers
House of Commons
- Proceeding contributions
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Tony Baldry | 516 c349-51WH (Link to this contribution) I have the fifteenth largest constituency in the country. It has approximately 85,000 adults, which ...
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Alun Michael | 516 c361WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister makes an interesting point by suggesting that he will measure things by outcomes. That ...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c361WH (Link to this contribution) I would like to draw the attention of the right hon. Gentleman to a passage in his contribution wher...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c361WH (Link to this contribution) I will give way for the last time, otherwise I will not get a chance to reply to the debate.
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Alun Michael | 516 c361WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for generously admitting that he was not keeping up with my explanatio...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c362WH (Link to this contribution) Elements of the functions of the Youth Justice Board will be brought into the Ministry of Justice. I...
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Alun Michael | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) That is enough spin.
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) Well, I am grateful to receive support, wherever it comes from. I welcome the repentance of the Lead...
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Lord Beith | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) Now that we are having a more rational political debate about criminal justice policy, I hope that t...
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Karl Turner | 516 c351-4WH (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the right hon. Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Sir Alan Beith) for securing the deba...
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Julian Huppert | 516 c355-7WH (Link to this contribution) It is a great privilege to participate in this debate and to follow so many right hon. and hon. Memb...
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Helen Goodman | 516 c358WH (Link to this contribution) Of course. I shall come to that in a moment. The overriding point is that we are not convinced that...
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Julian Huppert | 516 c358-9WH (Link to this contribution) There seems to be an implicit assumption in what the hon. Lady is saying that sending people to jail...
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Helen Goodman | 516 c357-8WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to see you in the Chair, Mrs Main. I am pleased to have this opportunity to welcom...
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Lord Beith | 516 c358WH (Link to this contribution) The context is of falling crime rates with an 8% fall in recorded crime and a 4% reduction according...
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Helen Goodman | 516 c359-60WH (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right, and I am grateful to him for digging me out of that hole. ...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c360-1WH (Link to this contribution) First, I congratulate the hon. Member for Bishop Auckland (Helen Goodman) who is sitting opposite me...
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Helen Goodman | 516 c359WH (Link to this contribution) My overriding point is about a target for the prison population irrespective of what is happening to...
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Alun Michael | 516 c359WH (Link to this contribution) We are in danger of losing track of the key point because of the slightly partisan approach. Surely,...
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Lord Beith | 516 c366-8WH (Link to this contribution) I can assure my hon. Friend that the new membership of the Committee is every bit as compelling as t...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c364-6WH (Link to this contribution) I fear not. A very careful study by the Defence Analytical Services Agency assessed the number at 3....
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Alun Michael | 516 c366WH (Link to this contribution) That is very petty; that is not true.
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Speaker | 516 c366WH (Link to this contribution) Order. I ask the right hon. Gentleman not to intervene from a sedentary position.
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c366WH (Link to this contribution) There is, however, much in the Committee's impressive report that resonates with this Government's p...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c364WH (Link to this contribution) With respect, I can answer that straight away. NAPO estimated that about 8,500 service veterans—9%—w...
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Alun Michael | 516 c363-4WH (Link to this contribution) I counsel the Minister that now is the time, when there is still something of a honeymoon going on, ...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c364WH (Link to this contribution) I can well understand, given the quality of the inheritance that we received, why the right hon. Gen...
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Alun Michael | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) I will be brief.
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) Well, if the right hon. Gentleman accepts that I will not finish my remarks, I will give way to him....
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Alun Michael | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman forgive me if I do not? Otherwise, I simply will not get through my re...
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Tony Baldry | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) One of the glories of the coalition is that some of our colleagues are wondrously optimistic. The re...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) That realism probably reflects my own assessment of the situation. We have to do what my hon. Friend...
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Lord Beith | 516 c323-6WH (Link to this contribution) I am pleased, Mrs Main, to serve under your chairmanship, and to have the opportunity of debating th...
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David Burrowes | 516 c326WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for the work that he has undertaken over a number of years. Th...
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Lord Beith | 516 c326-9WH (Link to this contribution) It must be remembered that that was the response of the previous Government. I found that part disap...
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Alun Michael | 516 c329WH (Link to this contribution) It is just possible.
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Robert Buckland | 516 c337WH (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is right about the paucity of information that is available for sentencers....
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Alun Michael | 516 c335-6WH (Link to this contribution) It is not an individual who needs to be accountable, but the system. The way to ensure that that hap...
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Robert Buckland | 516 c339-40WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this timely debate, bearing in mind not only yesterday...
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Alun Michael | 516 c337-9WH (Link to this contribution) We went through a period when sentencers were almost discouraged from going to see what was happenin...
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Robert Buckland | 516 c341-3WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady hit on an important point about NOMS. While we welcome the dedicated and hard work of ...
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Claire O'Neill | 516 c340-1WH (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to my hon. Friend, whose constituency of South Swindon is next door to mine. The...
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Robert Buckland | 516 c343-4WH (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for putting the matter in context. I have been...
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Alun Michael | 516 c343WH (Link to this contribution) Although I agree with what the hon. Gentleman says, there is another side to the coin. If people see...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c344WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for South Swindon (Mr Buckland) who, like me, is a new me...
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Speaker | 516 c344WH (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call the next speaker, I want to say that we are having the sound issues tackled. I ...
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Speaker | 516 c345WH (Link to this contribution) Order. I am suspending the sitting for a few minutes to give the technicians time to sort out the so...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c347-8WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that very positive response. I shall send him a booklet—if one exi...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c347WH (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman familiar with the work of Alan Lilly of the Cheshire probation service? I saw ...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c345-7WH (Link to this contribution) According to a Ministry of Justice letter leaked last Friday, 14,000 MOJ jobs will be lost, 11,000 o...
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Speaker | 516 c345WH (Link to this contribution) We are sorry for the technical interruption. We are not allowed to add extra time, but Mr Alan Beith...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c348-9WH (Link to this contribution) I realise that the right hon. Gentleman has a great deal of experience in the field of sentencing an...
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Alun Michael | 516 c348WH (Link to this contribution) The problem cited by the Minister is a lawyer's problem, rather than a practical problem. There shou...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c348WH (Link to this contribution) As I said, I went to the States with a preconception that I would not approve of the veterans court....
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c348WH (Link to this contribution) I would be grateful for the hon. Gentleman's reflections as a lawyer on treating people differently ...
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Speaker | 516 c349WH (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call the next speaker, I remind everybody that there is approximately 40 minutes lef...
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Lord Beith | 516 c329-30WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to focus on what we saw in practice. The Committee has tried ...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c329WH (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman will recall that a fortnight or three weeks ago, we visited the Lambeth pro...
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Lord Beith | 516 c329WH (Link to this contribution) I am giving the right hon. Gentleman a prompt, but I am sure that he does not need it. Short-senten...
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Claire O'Neill | 516 c335WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am coming to my point. One thing that really struck me was the lack of accountability in the ...
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Speaker | 516 c335WH (Link to this contribution) Order. May I ask the hon. Lady to keep her intervention brief?
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Claire O'Neill | 516 c335WH (Link to this contribution) As a new member of the Justice Committee, may I say what an absolute pleasure it is to listen to for...
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Alun Michael | 516 c332-5WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to sit under your supervision today, Mrs Main, and I hope that I do not strain your...
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Speaker | 516 c332WH (Link to this contribution) I have letters from seven people who are hoping to catch my eye during this debate, and I also want ...
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Lord Beith | 516 c330-2WH (Link to this contribution) So we are talking about the same one. The Diamond initiative is delivered jointly by the Metropolita...
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Crispin Blunt | 516 c363WH (Link to this contribution) If my right hon. Friend can find a way of pulling off that piece of alchemy, it would be extremely w...
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Elfyn Llwyd | 516 c330WH (Link to this contribution) I am advised that it is actually the Diamond initiative.
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- Contracts Crime prevention Administration of justice Construction Cooperation Finance Offenders Prisoners Prisons Probation Overcrowding Rehabilitation Sentencing Standards Reoffenders Cuts Community orders Veterans
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