Debate on Wednesday, 1 December 2010, in the House of Commons, led by Charles Hendry.
National Policy Statements
Debate on a motion that this House has considered the matter of the draft Energy National Policy Statements. Motion lapsed.
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- 519 c889-929
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- 2010-12
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- Department of Energy and Climate Change
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The revised draft national policy statements on energy. Evidence 30 November 2010. (Printed in HC 648).
Tuesday, 30 November 2010
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- Proceeding contributions
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Speaker | 519 c905 (Link to this contribution) Order. As the Minister says, a number of Members will be trying to catch my eye during this debate. ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c895 (Link to this contribution) I had hoped that the hon. Gentleman, for whom I have the highest regard, was going to explain what h...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c894 (Link to this contribution) We are very keen indeed to see the supply chain benefit. We talk to the companies that are looking t...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c896 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. Will he acknowledge that this issue is pertinent to our d...
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Damian Collins | 519 c914-6 (Link to this contribution) We have had a tour de force from the Minister and the shadow Minister on many of the issues in the n...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c906 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I agree entirely. It was wonderful news that after a slight delay to do with the coalition agre...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c889 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of the draft Energy National Policy Stateme...
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Lord Whitehead | 519 c918 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry but I have to make progress because I will not get injury time for the second interventio...
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Speaker | 519 c918 (Link to this contribution) You will, Alan.
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Lord Whitehead | 519 c918 (Link to this contribution) Okay, then I will take the intervention.
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David Mowat | 519 c918 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for your help on that matter, Mr Deputy Speaker. I agree with the hon. Gentleman's point a...
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Lord Whitehead | 519 c918-9 (Link to this contribution) Indeed I have. I think we will find out considerably more about that in the material that will come ...
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Richard Graham | 519 c919-20 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to contribute to this stimulating debate, which is fun...
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Tessa Munt | 519 c917 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the Infrastructure Planning Commission successor body appears to ...
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Lord Whitehead | 519 c916-7 (Link to this contribution) We have a scandalously short time in which to address these issues this evening. I have calculated t...
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Lord Whitehead | 519 c917-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is absolutely right. In response to the Energy and Climate Change Committee report exa...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c926-9 (Link to this contribution) We have had a good debate. It has been brief, but it is part of the process, not the end, and there ...
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Daniel Byles | 519 c924-5 (Link to this contribution) I shall keep my remarks brief, as I am conscious of time. It is extremely important that we get ene...
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Tessa Munt | 519 c925-6 (Link to this contribution) I will return to my favourite subject of the electricity grid, particularly as it affects Somerset, ...
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Tom Greatrex | 519 c920-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I served for a short time on the Energy a...
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Andrew Percy | 519 c923-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a delight to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Truro and Falmouth (Sarah Newton), who spoke...
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Sarah Newton | 519 c922-3 (Link to this contribution) I very much agree. Far too many people in constituencies such as my hon. Friend's and mine, especial...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 519 c922 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether my hon. Friend might also emphasise the great importance of ensuring that energy is...
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Sarah Newton | 519 c921-2 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to be called to speak in this important debate. Like many MPs, I believe that the first...
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Martin Horwood | 519 c893 (Link to this contribution) To be candid, the Minister may know that, as per the coalition agreement, many Liberal Democrat Memb...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c892 (Link to this contribution) I will give way shortly, but I hope I shall be forgiven if I do not do so immediately, as I am in fu...
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Lord Walney | 519 c893 (Link to this contribution) The Government talk a great deal about blank pages. Have they whitewashed their time in opposition, ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c893 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is new to the House and he might therefore be unaware of the extent to which we w...
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Charlie Elphicke | 519 c892 (Link to this contribution) Many of my least well-off and most vulnerable constituents fear that in five years' time the lights ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c892 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to draw that to the House's attention. As a result of one of the changes tha...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c892 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to reassure my hon. Friend. A couple of years ago, the outlook was a cause for great conce...
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Sarah Newton | 519 c891 (Link to this contribution) Do not local councils also have an important role to play? Cornwall council, for example, is underta...
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Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 519 c895 (Link to this contribution) Is the stark contrast between those on the two sides of the House not shown in the fact that the fin...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c894 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is very familiar with the argument. We have said that we looked at the issues as we ca...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c895 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman would not expect me to agree that our position is in tatters. As I made clear to ...
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Angela C Smith | 519 c894 (Link to this contribution) Why, therefore, do the Government refuse to support Forgemasters in its bid to play a strategic part...
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Angela C Smith | 519 c894 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to hear that the future of the nuclear industry in the UK will be a good one. Will there, ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c894 (Link to this contribution) I am keen that this coalition should get larger and grander every day, so I am delighted to welcome ...
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John Robertson | 519 c893-4 (Link to this contribution) I should declare an interest: I am chair of the all-party group on nuclear energy. I think the Minis...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c893 (Link to this contribution) The Government are seeking to address a comprehensive range of issues to do with new nuclear. There ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c902 (Link to this contribution) I thought that might encourage the hon. Lady.
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Ian Lavery | 519 c902 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said that £1 billion had been invested in the carbon capture and storage programme. The...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c902 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. The £1 billion is specifically and only for that projec...
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Ian Lavery | 519 c901 (Link to this contribution) On carbon capture and storage, will new applications for gas-fired power stations be treated the sam...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c901-2 (Link to this contribution) A new coal plant will have to be equipped with some degree of carbon capture and storage capability—...
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Neil Carmichael | 519 c901 (Link to this contribution) The NPS gives great support to those of us who support a green investment bank because it provides a...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c901 (Link to this contribution) The Government have committed £1 billion to the green investment bank, with additional funding to fo...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c900-1 (Link to this contribution) I have certainly heard that point before. The OECD has a fundamentally different view of the availab...
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Tessa Munt | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) Thank you. Will that investigation examine the cost of under-sea infrastructure as well? I understan...
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Tessa Munt | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) How can I and my constituents be assured that the study is wholly independent and is not in any way ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) I would hope that the nature of the Institute of Engineering and Technology, and its track record fo...
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Lord Whitehead | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman leaves EN-5, will he reflect on the question that he raised previously abo...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c903-4 (Link to this contribution) We have to see the national policy statements as part of the process. They are an integral part of a...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to my hon. Friend, who has some issues in Suffolk.
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Baroness Coffey | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) Thank you. We do indeed have issues in East Anglia, and in Suffolk in particular. We have an enormou...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way again to the hon. Member for Wells and deal with both issues together.
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Charles Hendry | 519 c903 (Link to this contribution) That is my understanding of the report. We are all keen to have a fact-based scientific assessment o...
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Lord Walney | 519 c895 (Link to this contribution) I hope the Minister will accept that it is important to correct what the hon. Member for Peterboroug...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c896 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. As a new Government coming in, we had to ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c895 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very important point. In the months just before the election an enormous numb...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c896 (Link to this contribution) The hole in the argument is that the hon. Gentleman makes that case on behalf of the Opposition when...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c896 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to get back to some of the areas where there is consent and general agreement, but I will ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c896-7 (Link to this contribution) I have said several times that our decision is no reflection on the quality of the workmanship at Sh...
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Albert Owen | 519 c896 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman and I were both very solid on nuclear power in the last Parliament when the then ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c896 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to move on to other issues, but as the hon. Gentleman has such a strong constituency inter...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c897 (Link to this contribution) I would give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Dover, but he was the one who made me depart from ...
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Daniel Byles | 519 c897 (Link to this contribution) To come back to the future of nuclear power in the UK and the comments made by my hon. Friend the Me...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c897-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises an important issue. The situation in Germany is very different from the situat...
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Neil Carmichael | 519 c898 (Link to this contribution) I have flicked through the plans, and I cannot see any reference to hydro-power in the context of mi...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c898-9 (Link to this contribution) The Government are committed to taking us forward, and I welcome my hon. Friend's support in that re...
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Ian Swales | 519 c899 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has discussed the urgent need for new renewable electricity generation capacity. If tha...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c899-900 (Link to this contribution) One of the issues for investors in this area is certainty. They want to be able to plan for the long...
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David Morris | 519 c900 (Link to this contribution) We know that we are legally required to reduce carbon emissions by about 80% in the next 40 years. C...
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Martin Horwood | 519 c900 (Link to this contribution) On the subject of what is realistic, and referring back to what the Minister was saying about sustai...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c900 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the work that my hon. Friend has done as an ardent supporter of the Heysham plant i...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c908 (Link to this contribution) That question should probably be put to the Minister. I recognise the hon. Gentleman's long-held pos...
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Martin Horwood | 519 c908 (Link to this contribution) Before we leave the question of Labour's legacy, can the hon. Gentleman put a figure on the unfunded...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c907-8 (Link to this contribution) I will make a little progress. Although I welcome this debate, we now have only one hour and 20 min...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c907 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. The hon. Lady will have noticed that between March 2010 and now an election got in the way. ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c910 (Link to this contribution) There is confusion between the approval process for NPSs and the role that Ministers will take in re...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c910 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that intervention, but will he clarify two things? Has he just said that NP...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c910 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to intervene on the hon. Gentleman after my own comments went on for quite a while, but I...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c908-10 (Link to this contribution) The ball is now firmly in the court of the Minister. There is an issue with the urgency and delivery...
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Christopher Pincher | 519 c908 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman waxes eloquent about the right hon. Member for Doncaster North (Edward Miliband)....
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Martin Horwood | 519 c912 (Link to this contribution) Given that carbon capture and storage technology has been in use on a commercial scale in the United...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c911-2 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman is seeking apologies, may I suggest that he starts by knocking on the door of ...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c912-3 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to say that I am not an engineer, but that is exactly the point behind the large-scale com...
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Charlie Elphicke | 519 c911 (Link to this contribution) Speaking of clarity, can the shadow Minister explain why we are threatened with the lights going out...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c910-1 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister suggesting that the final document will be amendable and subject to a decision by th...
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Daniel Byles | 519 c913 (Link to this contribution) The shadow Minister has highlighted the concern that many of the Government's plans are predicated o...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c913 (Link to this contribution) I will not take another intervention because there are other people waiting to speak. Meanwhile, pa...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c913-4 (Link to this contribution) I can give the hon. Gentleman a guarantee that we are committed to assisting the Government to deliv...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c904 (Link to this contribution) I shall take a couple of interventions and then seek to conclude my remarks.
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Charles Hendry | 519 c904 (Link to this contribution) A number of gas powered plants were brought on stream. The last nuclear power station was Sizewell i...
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Charlie Elphicke | 519 c904 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to trouble the Minister to come down to east Kent, but for the benefit of the House wi...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c904 (Link to this contribution) I know that both my hon. Friends have done sterling work in pushing the case for the South Humber Ga...
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Andrew Percy | 519 c904 (Link to this contribution) While we are on the subject of new players coming into our energy industry, I invite the Minister to...
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Christopher Pincher | 519 c905 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for being so generous. May I take him back to his earlier remarks ab...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c904 (Link to this contribution) An enormous number of colleagues are keen to speak in the debate, but with your forbearance, Mr. Dep...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c905 (Link to this contribution) One thing that has struck and impressed me most as an incoming Minister has been the extent to which...
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Ian Lavery | 519 c906 (Link to this contribution) The doubling of the electricity recovery rate over the next 40 years is vital. As was mentioned, the...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c905-6 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I have indicated to you through the usual channels that, if it is your...
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Baroness Bray of Coln | 519 c907 (Link to this contribution) Given that the previous Government had a complete lack of policy on energy, threatening constituents...
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Charlie Elphicke | 519 c907 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c907 (Link to this contribution) Well, we can debate who can claim credit for the NPSs. Of course, they were instigated and developed...
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Baroness Morgan of Cotes | 519 c907 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case, though, that the report by the Energy and Climate Change Committee criticised th...
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Huw Irranca-Davies | 519 c907 (Link to this contribution) Let me make a tiny bit of progress. This short debate is informed by the ongoing consultation—or pe...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c891 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman raises an important point. Certainly, encouraging people to install renewable hea...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c891 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for the work that he has done to highlight issues such as these. We ...
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Albert Owen | 519 c891 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has been very effective in campaigning for the extension of the gas network throughout ...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c890 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman brings to the House a huge amount of expertise on these issues and I very much we...
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Andrew Percy | 519 c891 (Link to this contribution) In my constituency, many properties are not on the gas network, and there are no plans to expand the...
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Charles Hendry | 519 c890 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has often raised this issue in the Select Committee in the past, and it should be...
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Tom Greatrex | 519 c890 (Link to this contribution) May I issue an appeal to the Minister and his colleagues that, as the green deal mechanism is being ...
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John Robertson | 519 c890 (Link to this contribution) I commend the hon. Gentleman on the work that he did on the Energy and Climate Change Committee, and...
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