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Debate on bill on Friday, 21 January 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Greg Knight. The answering member was Jonathan Djanogly.

Estates of Deceased Persons (Forfeiture Rule and Law of Succession) Bill

Estates of Deceased Persons (Forfeiture Rule and Law of Succession) Bill. Second reading debate agreed to on question. Bill committed to a Public Bill Committee.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
521 c1127-59 
Session
2010-12
Department
Ministry of Justice
Legislative stage
Second reading
Procedure
Private members' bills proceedings
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Deposited Paper DEP2011-0013
Monday, 10 January 2011
Deposited papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Greg Knight | 521 c1144 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend confirm that there was no suggestion as all in the case Re DWS that the grandchi...
Lord Beith | 521 c1134 (Link to this contribution) I return to the point that the Law Commission had made. Its recommendation about creating trust prov...
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Greg Knight | 521 c1134 (Link to this contribution) I am doing that for the simple reason that I have confidence and trust in the coalition Government a...
Greg Knight | 521 c1134-5 (Link to this contribution) I think so, because the court has power to determine who manages an estate, and I would have thought...
Greg Knight | 521 c1138 (Link to this contribution) In case the hon. Gentleman has not appreciated the fact—although, knowing him, I am sure he has—may ...
Robert Flello | 521 c1138 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the right hon. Member for East Yorkshire (Mr Knight) on bringing the Bill to the Hous...
David Nuttall | 521 c1140-3 (Link to this contribution) I remind the House that I am a solicitor and notary public, although I no longer hold a practising c...
David Nuttall | 521 c1143-4 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. Reading in even more detail the transcripts of those judgm...
Greg Knight | 521 c1147 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend, like me, is a lawyer, so I hesitate to suggest this to him, but is not the answer to...
David Nuttall | 521 c1147-8 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right, and I am sure that my hon. Friend the Member for North Eas...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 521 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I am loth to disagree with the hon. Member for West Ham (Lyn Brown), who always makes fine points, b...
David Nuttall | 521 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I certainly wish the Bill well. I am about to express my concern at how long it has been held up in ...
Baroness Brown of Silvertown | 521 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I have been listening with rapt attention to this modern-day ““Bleak House””, although I am sure the...
David Nuttall | 521 c1144-5 (Link to this contribution) I was not aware of the precise age of the grandchild, only that he was a young minor. I apologise: t...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 521 c1147 (Link to this contribution) Would my hon. Friend explain a little more about the circumstances under which a testator could leav...
David Nuttall | 521 c1146-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for that helpful information. If we extrapolate from that, dis...
David Nuttall | 521 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my hon. Friend for that intervention. The Bill would not be before the Ho...
David Nuttall | 521 c1147 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. One of the problems is that the affairs of a person who is ...
Lord Beith | 521 c1153 (Link to this contribution) It is perhaps worth placing on the record—the Committee specifically sought to inquire into this—tha...
Jonathan Djanogly | 521 c1154-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for setting out that important point. If that were not the case, it cou...
Lord Beith | 521 c1158 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is giving a detailed analysis and providing fairly compelling reasons why the specifi...
Greg Knight | 521 c1152 (Link to this contribution) Further to that point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Perhaps you could reflect again on the point just...
Speaker | 521 c1151 (Link to this contribution) Order. That is not a point of order, as the right hon. Gentleman, who has long been a Member of the ...
Jonathan Djanogly | 521 c1152-3 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to pull the House back to the important issue of succession. I was just saying that ...
Speaker | 521 c1152 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before we get carried away, I should say that that has absolutely nothing to do with the Hous...
Jonathan Djanogly | 521 c1148 (Link to this contribution) I, too, congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member for East Yorkshire (Mr Knight) on his success i...
Denis MacShane | 521 c1151 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. We are being informed by television that Mr Andy Coulson, on...
Jonathan Djanogly | 521 c1149-51 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for being put right on that point, so fifth place it was. My right hon. Friend co...
Greg Knight | 521 c1159 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief because I sense that the House now wants to hear from the hon. Member for Washingto...
Jonathan Djanogly | 521 c1158-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for making that clear. The Law Society also made an important point ab...
Lord Beith | 521 c1158 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has misunderstood my point, which does not concern the absurd issue of deterrence. So...
Jonathan Djanogly | 521 c1158 (Link to this contribution) I take my right hon. Friend's point. As we have discussed, I agree that there is the technical possi...
Greg Knight | 521 c1127-9 (Link to this contribution) If I may respond to that en passant, as it were, I accept that argument. The Procedure Committee has...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 521 c1129-30 (Link to this contribution) If the strict Baptist did not want the money to go to his children, because he thought that"““the wa...
Joan Walley | 521 c1127 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for his positive remarks about considering the issue ...
Christopher Chope | 521 c1133 (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that the Bill incorporates part of the recommendations of the Law Commission, wh...
Greg Knight | 521 c1133-4 (Link to this contribution) My Bill is not precisely the same as the Bill proposed by the Law Commission; I have made a number o...
Christopher Chope | 521 c1134 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is giving the Government an absolute discretion as to when his Bill would be br...
Christopher Chope | 521 c1130 (Link to this contribution) My concern in examining legislation in detail is, as my right hon. Friend knows, to make sure that t...
Greg Knight | 521 c1131-2 (Link to this contribution) It could be a consequence, but it is not the prime reason behind the Bill. When the Law Commission ...
Lord Beith | 521 c1133 (Link to this contribution) An even more telling point is that someone who has got into that situation without taking any precau...
Greg Knight | 521 c1133 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point absolutely and completely. The effect of the law does not produce the outcome th...
Greg Knight | 521 c1130 (Link to this contribution) B would be able to do that, although our law clearly states that one cannot refuse part of an inheri...
Christopher Chope | 521 c1130 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my right hon. Friend for not being here at the outset of his remarks, but I have indi...
Greg Knight | 521 c1130 (Link to this contribution) Under our existing law, there are various reasons why people may disclaim an inheritance, and reduci...
Lord Beith | 521 c1135-8 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Member for East Yorkshire (Mr Knight) on introducing the Bil...
Robert Flello | 521 c1138-40 (Link to this contribution) I always like to be generous and, indeed, I thank the right hon. Gentleman for supporting my Bill on...
Greg Knight | 521 c1146 (Link to this contribution) As far as I can ascertain, having looked at the figures, the Bill will affect about 200 cases a year...
David Nuttall | 521 c1149 (Link to this contribution) I think that, in fact, my right hon. Friend was a little more successful: he was drawn fifth.
Greg Knight | 521 c1127 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second Time. It is an unexpected privilege to be here. I...
Greg Knight | 521 c1143 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is dealing with two important cases, but does he agree that they illustrate that our ...
Subjects
Children Homicide Gifts and endowments Inheritance tax Euthanasia Intestacy Probate Succession Wills Forfeiture Next of kin
Legislation
Estates of Deceased Persons (Forfeiture Rule and Law of Succession) Bill 2010-12
Link
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