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Debate on bill on Wednesday, 30 March 2011, in the House of Lords.

Pensions Bill [HL]

Pensions Bill (HL). Lords report stage. Bill ordered to be printed, with amendments (HL Bill 61 2010-12).

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
726 c1250-304, c1322-34 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Work and Pensions
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Pensions Bill (HL). As amended on Report.
Wednesday, 30 March 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds | 726 c1255-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to these amendments because I want to talk about the speed with which t...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 726 c1255 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is entirely right to correct me. I had added the words ““per annum””, which are not i...
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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1255 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, but it is not £10 billion a year; it is a net present value ...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 726 c1254-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may respond briefly to this amendment, having spoken on these matters in Committ...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 726 c1253-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I apologise to the House that due to a previous commitment I was not present to sup...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1250-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak also to the other amendments in the group. Their detail may appear a little intricate,...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1250 (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, leave out ““December 1953”””” and insert ““April 1955””””
Baroness Drake | 726 c1334 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her explanation and I thank the noble Lord, Lord Freud, for his p...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1329-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for her amendment. I know that she is very committed to this propo...
Lord Flight | 726 c1329 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add that I think that it is a great advantage that the noble Baroness has raised this ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1332-3 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for the support around the House—equivocal support, perhaps, in some cases—on the...
Lord Freud | 726 c1331-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, for raising this very important issue of allowing individua...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 726 c1328-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, has performed a signal service to the House in bringing t...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1326-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 22 is on early access. I had hoped to be able to move it only once, in Committee...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1333 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pity that the Minister does not have to face the amendments of the noble Bar...
Lord Freud | 726 c1333 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very sad that the noble Lord is outraged. Schedule 4 : Pension Protection Fund Amen...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 726 c1333-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 29 and 31 in this group. These amendments relate to Sche...
Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 726 c1300 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister can clarify that, and I am sure he will. I do not know what the noble Baroness ...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1303-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that detailed response. I will reflect on some of the points that he has ma...
Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 726 c1300 (Link to this contribution) I have already allowed one intervention and I should like to move on, since this is a short debate. ...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1325 (Link to this contribution) I note what the Minister said about phasing in contributions gradually. I was not anticipating that....
Baroness Drake | 726 c1322 (Link to this contribution) 20: Clause 10, page 9, line 3, leave out ““or most””
Baroness Drake | 726 c1322-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 21. The new pension arrangements that are to apply from 20...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1325 (Link to this contribution) 22: After Clause 13, insert the following new Clause— ““Power of trustees to allow early access to l...
Lord Freud | 726 c1290-1 (Link to this contribution) Let me accept that that is the intention behind the noble Baroness’s amendment—although when we cost...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1290 (Link to this contribution) I must correct the noble Lord, because I think that he is misrepresenting my amendment. It asks the ...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1291-2 (Link to this contribution) 11: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Qualifying age for pension credit (1) The Sec...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 726 c1291 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response. I think he agrees that there is a problem here, but...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1292 (Link to this contribution) This amendment has been debated, but I want to restate that the cost of this amendment, based on the...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1294 (Link to this contribution) 15: Clause 5, page 4, line 30, leave out ““£7,475”” and insert ““£5,715””
Baroness Drake | 726 c1295-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 15 and speak to Amendments 16 and 19. The definition of the workf...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1298-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend’s amendment. The Government are essentially following t...
Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 726 c1299 (Link to this contribution) I support the proposal in the Bill that the threshold should be reviewed in line with the Johnson re...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1299 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord’s honourable friend in the other place, Mr Steve Webb, has made the contrary assertio...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1288 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should have intervened a sentence or two earlier, but I was not sure whether the Minister ...
Lord Freud | 726 c1287-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments in effect aims to provide mitigations to the state pension age ti...
Lord Freud | 726 c1288-90 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Drake. We could get into a long debate here that perhaps would not ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 726 c1283 (Link to this contribution) 9: Clause 1, page 2, line 19, at end insert— ““( ) After sub-paragraph (10) insert— ““(11) The Secre...
Baroness Murphy | 726 c1280 (Link to this contribution) Although he is clearly hampered by the commitment to the directive, it does not seem to be beyond th...
Baroness Drake | 726 c1284-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendments 11 and 14 in this group. In doing so, I have some sympathy w...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 726 c1283-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I return to a notion that I raised previously in Committee, although I realise that I did ...
Lord Freud | 726 c1278-80 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, for this amendment, and for seeking to achieve a compro...
Baroness Murphy | 726 c1280 (Link to this contribution) I believe that I must respond to the Minister since I moved the amendment. I have listened to the de...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1278 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be brief. Like others, I warmly congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, o...
Lord German | 726 c1277-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I echo the noble Lord, Lord Boswell, and the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, in saying that w...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1276-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will be brief because a lot of the arguments were effectively aired on all sides on the ...
Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 726 c1276 (Link to this contribution) We are very sympathetic to the noble Baroness’s amendment. I congratulate her on an important contri...
Baroness Grey-Thompson | 726 c1275-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak to this amendment as someone who is certainly not an expert in pension pro...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 726 c1275 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, on his amendment and I thank everyone for th...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 726 c1273-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, for moving her amendment, which is cognate wit...
Baroness Greengross | 726 c1272-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by thanking the noble Baroness, Lady Murphy. I am sorry; I did not realise that pe...
Baroness Murphy | 726 c1272 (Link to this contribution) 3: Clause 1, page 2, leave out lines 3 to 6 and insert—
Baroness Murphy | 726 c1272 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that the noble Baroness, Lady Greengross, will be here to speak to her amendment...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 726 c1267-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this extremely well informed debate. I entirely accept th...
Baroness Bakewell | 726 c1259-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the idea that these changes to the pension age are going too fast. There was a s...
Lord Flight | 726 c1258-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, and the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, make a persuasive case...
Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 726 c1261-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not intervened in these debates so far, and I hope that I will be forgiven for doin...
Baroness Hollins | 726 c1260-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, am concerned about what the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, described as disproportiona...
Lord Freud | 726 c1264 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this set of amendments puts forward the first of two alternative routes to achieving a com...
Lord German | 726 c1262-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I say a word or two about this particular group of amendments, I want to say a few ...
Lord Freud | 726 c1264-7 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I will try to address that now. If we were to look for funding by asking men and women, after t...
Baroness Browning | 726 c1264 (Link to this contribution) When my noble friend explains his intentions to the House, will he include an explanation of what th...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 726 c1256-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, like others, very much support these amendments. I have here the coalition programme fo...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 726 c1334 (Link to this contribution) 29: Schedule 4, page 29, line 9, leave out from ““section”” to end of line 11 30: Schedule 4, page...
Lord Freud | 726 c1300-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is clearly a lot of consensus in the House around auto-enrolment, but I am afraid th...
Lord Freud | 726 c1324-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Drake, for introducing this debate. The amendments to Cla...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 726 c1333 (Link to this contribution) 28: Schedule 4, page 28, line 42, leave out ““and (9)””
Subjects
Age Contributions Women Equality EU law Health and safety Ethnic groups Pension credit Personal savings Pay Workplace pensions Pensions Manual workers Part-time employment Lump sum payments State retirement pensions Tax allowances State second pension National employment savings trust scheme Universal credit
Legislation
Pensions Bill (HL) 2010-12
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