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Opposition day on Monday, 23 May 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Yvette Cooper. The answering member was Baroness May of Maidenhead.

Policing and Crime

Sixteenth opposition day debate (part two). Closure motion. Agreed to on question. Main question negatived on division (206 to 304).

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
528 c703-44 
Session
2010-12
Department
Home Office
Procedure
Closure motions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 528 c719 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am going to lift the time limit to seven minutes, but if Members start to intervene I will ...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c743 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way. [Hon. Members: ““Give way!””] No. I gave way to the right hon. Lady last...
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Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c743 (Link to this contribution) Those forces talk about a single dog unit. Does the right hon. Lady think they are just cutting the ...
Lord Coaker | 528 c741 (Link to this contribution) I will have a look at what the Home Secretary said, but I think all of us know that she is just goin...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c741 (Link to this contribution) May I suggest that in future the hon. Gentleman listens to my speeches? I made specific reference to...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c741-3 (Link to this contribution) We have had a typical debate on policing this evening, in which Government Members have spoken with ...
Lord Coaker | 528 c740-1 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman gets on his high horse, I should say that I have not heard of the new rule...
Lord Coaker | 528 c741 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, because I have only a couple of minutes. I normally would, as the hon. Gentlema...
Alan Campbell | 528 c744 (Link to this contribution) claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36). Question put forthwith, That the Question be n...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c744 (Link to this contribution) That time-wasting intervention has just shown exactly why it is not necessary or proper to give way ...
Speaker | 528 c744 (Link to this contribution) It is the responsibility of the Member on his or her feet to decide whether, and if so when, to allo...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c743-4 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady has never mentioned it in her speeches. She opposes the two-year pay freeze that...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c743 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady has had her opportunity already because she has called three debates, but what h...
Lord Herbert of South Downs | 528 c743 (Link to this contribution) With only a few minutes to go, I will not give way. The Labour party does not wish to admit to poli...
Speaker | 528 c743 (Link to this contribution) Order. Members must not try to drown out the Minister of State. He must be heard. If he wants to giv...
Tom Brake | 528 c727 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, and I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. Clearly, a number of forces around the coun...
Speaker | 528 c728 (Link to this contribution) Order. If I am to be able to call all the Members who wish to speak, I shall have to reduce the spea...
Alun Michael | 528 c728 (Link to this contribution) Let me begin by declaring, as I do at meetings of the Home Affairs Committee, that my son is the chi...
David TC Davies | 528 c727 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Member aware that that report also showed that anyone sentenced to more than 12 months i...
Tom Brake | 528 c727-8 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I am drawing on one part of the report; he is drawi...
Alun Michael | 528 c728-30 (Link to this contribution) Further issues arise from cuts which are too deep and too sudden, and, in the case of the police, ma...
Philip Davies | 528 c730-2 (Link to this contribution) I want to talk predominantly about closed circuit television and DNA, because I still feel that, des...
Tobias Ellwood | 528 c728 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I wonder whether the clock could be adjusted.
Speaker | 528 c728 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his point of order. The debate is now under way again.
Yasmin Qureshi | 528 c732 (Link to this contribution) The debate is on policing, but I shall touch on the economics of the situation, which are raised so ...
Yasmin Qureshi | 528 c732-3 (Link to this contribution) I will give away on another point, not on this one. We recognise that there are financial difficult...
Paul Maynard | 528 c733-4 (Link to this contribution) One of my regular Sunday penances, more fool me, is to read The Observer. I do that neither for the ...
Tobias Ellwood | 528 c736-7 (Link to this contribution) This has been an illuminating and important debate for understanding the policy differences between ...
Geraint Davies | 528 c737-9 (Link to this contribution) The thin blue line on the Government Benches is pretty thin for fairly obvious reasons: they do not ...
Lord Coaker | 528 c739-40 (Link to this contribution) This has been an interesting debate with many contributions. I am particularly pleased that my hon. ...
Julian Huppert | 528 c740 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Coaker | 528 c740 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in a moment, because I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will put out a press release ...
Julian Huppert | 528 c740 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way. It is a shame he did not have the courtesy to say that he...
Claire O'Neill | 528 c724-5 (Link to this contribution) I am enjoying the hon. Lady's use of statistics, but I implore Members on both sides of the House—an...
Debbie Abrahams | 528 c724 (Link to this contribution) Let me start by saying how offensive I found some of the remarks that the hon. Member for Monmouth (...
Richard Fuller | 528 c725 (Link to this contribution) I am terribly sorry to interrupt the hon. Lady, because we are about to hear where exactly she would...
Debbie Abrahams | 528 c725 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to come to that, but it is important to set out the statistics that I have just given, wh...
Tom Brake | 528 c726-7 (Link to this contribution) I have been a Member of the House since 1997, and I still naively expect this Chamber to be a place ...
Julian Huppert | 528 c727 (Link to this contribution) I met the chief constable of Cambridgeshire constabulary this morning and he told me that the budget...
Speaker | 528 c722 (Link to this contribution) Order. Will the hon. Gentleman address the House through the Chair, rather than the Home Secretary?
David TC Davies | 528 c722-4 (Link to this contribution) I apologise, Mr Deputy Speaker. I was saying that I have no problem in following the Government int...
David TC Davies | 528 c722 (Link to this contribution) May I begin, as I often do, by declaring an interest as a special constable with the British Transpo...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c719 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Lady for mentioning the NSPCC, because it enables me to put the reco...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c718-9 (Link to this contribution) Will the Home Secretary respond specifically to the NSPCC's concern? It has raised the issue of a lo...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c718 (Link to this contribution) I remind the hon. Gentleman that we have protected the counter-terrorism policing budget, because we...
Khalid Mahmood | 528 c718 (Link to this contribution) What effect does the right hon. Lady think her cuts will have on counter-terrorism, given that, as m...
Siobhain McDonagh | 528 c720-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend the Member for Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford (Yvette Cooper) for...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c719 (Link to this contribution) The issue was discussed in Committee, and the points that were made were very clear. As she said, sh...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c719 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady will know that the matter was discussed in detail in Committee, and my hon. Frie...
Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the campaigning advice from the right hon. Lady. Does she think one would have to ...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to give way to another hon. Member on the Government Benches, but their points would ...
Claire O'Neill | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady references the former Home Secretary's comments about policing. He also said tha...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid the hon. Gentleman's facts are wrong. In fact, the former Home Secretary set out in Nove...
Speaker | 528 c705 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is one thing to make an intervention; it is quite another for Members to carry on shouting...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) We have been here before. We have had this debate before. There is a clear difference between our pl...
Baroness Bray of Coln | 528 c705-6 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady at least turn her attention to London, where the Conservative Mayor, Boris ...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c705 (Link to this contribution) The noise on the Government Benches conveys Members' desperation about the cuts being made to police...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c706 (Link to this contribution) Judicious only until the mayoral election, after which the number will be cut. The Mayor has realise...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c706-7 (Link to this contribution) It is right to keep working hard to cut bureaucracy, but the hon. Gentleman is out of touch with the...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c706 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Gentleman if he can answer that question.
Michael Ellis | 528 c706 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
Yvette Cooper | 528 c707 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. CCTV can make a difference for communities that are struggling, such as the...
Mark Tami | 528 c707 (Link to this contribution) Before my right hon. Friend moves on from CCTV, I wonder how many Members of this House have had con...
Andrew Bridgen | 528 c708 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady has confirmed that she agrees with the independent inspectorate of constabulary ...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman knows that while every chief constable across the country is trying to do everyth...
Paul Maynard | 528 c704 (Link to this contribution) When the shadow Home Secretary was in Blackpool, did she join in welcoming the decision by the Lanca...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c703 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's concern about antisocial behaviour would be rather more convincing if he were c...
Tobias Ellwood | 528 c703 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady speaks of the Government not listening. Will she now listen to the Justice Depar...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c703 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House opposes the Government's cuts leading to over 12,000 fewer police off...
Charles Walker | 528 c714 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
David Anderson | 528 c712 (Link to this contribution) Raoul Moat began his killing spree in my constituency, a mile from my house. Twenty-four hours later...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c713 (Link to this contribution) I am saying to all police officers that we value the work that they are doing, though it is importan...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c713 (Link to this contribution) If the Home Secretary is so confident in her savings figures, why does she think that chief constabl...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c713 (Link to this contribution) Chief constables up and down the country are giving a commitment to maintaining the quality of their...
Christopher Pincher | 528 c713 (Link to this contribution) Is my right hon. Friend aware that the chief constable of Staffordshire has reorganised the back off...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c713 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for making that point. The chief constable of Staffordshire is anoth...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c713-4 (Link to this contribution) Then what does the right hon. Lady say to the chief constable of Lancashire, who says,"““we cannot l...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c714 (Link to this contribution) A number of those chief constables, including the chief constable of Kent, have made it absolutely c...
Charles Walker | 528 c714 (Link to this contribution) It is a microscopic intervention.
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c717 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend. As I said earlier, the Government wholeheartedly support the use of CCTV and...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c714-5 (Link to this contribution) There is indeed a process that is taking place in relation to the proposals of the Winsor review. Th...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c714 (Link to this contribution) I will complete this point and then I might be generous to my hon. Friend. Winsor proposes rewardin...
Charles Walker | 528 c714 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is as wise, charming and insightful as ever. However, I think that the Winsor r...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c715-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valid and important point about the attitude of the previous Government. Our...
Philip Davies | 528 c717 (Link to this contribution) I hope I am right in sensing that my right hon. Friend is moving back from the left-wing, liberty ag...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c715 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman asks what the previous Government did. Well, they did nothing. They said they wan...
Andrew Bridgen | 528 c715 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend might remember that the last Labour Government did have plans for policing refo...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c718 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that point, and I will come on to vetting and barring once I have covered...
Tobias Ellwood | 528 c717 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend say a word or two about Criminal Records Bureau checks? We had a case in B...
Geraint Davies | 528 c710 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Lady agree that, on reflection, increasing the cuts from Labour's proposed 12% t...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c710 (Link to this contribution) No. I do not accept the hon. Gentleman's argument at all, and in a few minutes I will address exactl...
Mark Tami | 528 c710 (Link to this contribution) If, as the right hon. Lady says, every party knew about the issue before the previous election, why ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c710 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that, instead of trying to look across to Government Members, the hon. Gentleman asks his ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c709-10 (Link to this contribution) There are a number of roles in policing, and we have been absolutely clear about that, but we are ab...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c708 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will find that the Home Office made efficiency savings every year, and we can alw...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c709 (Link to this contribution) The Opposition's motion is wrong in every point of fact and wrong on every point of policy. Given th...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c712 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right; we will indeed do that. I take this opportunity to commend PC Al...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c712 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right. We have the best police force in the world and the best model of policing in...
Lord Barwell | 528 c712 (Link to this contribution) Last Thursday, PC Nigel Albuery was stabbed on duty on the streets of Croydon. My right hon. Friend ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c711-2 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point about the behaviour of the Opposition today. On the proposa...
Angela C Smith | 528 c712 (Link to this contribution) The police represent the best of public services. They work tirelessly, they sign up to no-strike ag...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c711 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very important point, and the sadness of the Opposition's position is that th...
Charles Walker | 528 c711 (Link to this contribution) I know that being in opposition is difficult, but I really hope we were not as bad as that lot over ...
Andrew Bridgen | 528 c710-1 (Link to this contribution) There is a police station earmarked for closure in my constituency that is completely inefficient an...
Geraint Davies | 528 c710 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
Yvette Cooper | 528 c744 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Speaker. In your experience, is it parliamentary procedure and parliamentary...
Jack Dromey | 528 c734-6 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary was good enough to meet six police officers from the west midlands—six outstandin...
Yvette Cooper | 528 c707-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right, and I know that he has spent considerable time looking at the issue of ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c709 (Link to this contribution) I think the hon. Gentleman asks me how much money is being cut from budgets to police authorities. T...
Mark Tami | 528 c709 (Link to this contribution) What does the right hon. Lady think she is doing to the morale of those people who work in the back ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 528 c710 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman waits, he will find that I am about to come on to the point that he made in hi...
Debbie Abrahams | 528 c725-6 (Link to this contribution) I am talking about the situation that we have now, with the hon. Gentleman's Government in power. I ...
Michael Ellis | 528 c706 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the right hon. Lady, who is being generous in giving way. Will she accept...
Philip Davies | 528 c707 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady may have heard the Justice Secretary say in the previous debate how important it...
David Anderson | 528 c709 (Link to this contribution) Can the right hon. Lady say exactly how much money is being cut from budgets that are going to polic...
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Databases CCTV Accountability Crime prevention Crime Finance Genetics Police Public expenditure
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