Debate on Tuesday, 24 April 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Crispin Blunt. The answering member was Andy Slaughter.

Data Protection in the Areas of Police and Criminal Justice (EU Directive)

Debate on a motion that this House takes note of European Union Document No. 5833/12 and Addenda 1 and 2, relating to a Draft Directive of the European Parliament and of the Council on the protection of individuals with regard to the processing of personal data by competent authorities for the purposes of prevention, investigation, detection or prosecution of criminal offences or the execution of criminal penalties, and the free movement of such data; and supports the Government's recommendation not to exercise its right to opt out of this draft Directive under Protocol 19 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (The Schengen Protocol). Agreed on division (267 to 24). [Relevant document: The Fifty-ninth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee, HC 428-liv.]

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 543 c884-910
Session: 2010-12
Department: Ministry of Justice
Chamber / Committee: House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions: Speaker | 543 c911 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for what he has just said. We now come to the motion rela...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c907-8 (Link to this contribution) No, I did not speak directly to my right hon. Friend the Minister for Europe. Yes, it is in the reci...; William Cash | 543 c907 (Link to this contribution) When the Minister reads the transcript, he will see that the matter is specifically referred to in t...; Greg Clark | 543 c911 (Link to this contribution) Mr Speaker, I am anxious to get on with the debate. I have had some indications from my right hon. a...; Speaker | 543 c910 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her point of order. The time available for this debate was always...; Roberta Blackman-Woods | 543 c910 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I would appreciate your ruling on the appropriateness of commencing...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c908 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, because I want to try to finish with— One and a half hours having elapsed sinc...; Tom Brake | 543 c904-5 (Link to this contribution) I note what the hon. Gentleman has said. I certainly think that we need to embark on the debate on t...; Mark Reckless | 543 c904 (Link to this contribution) So many instruments in the security and home affairs field are being either repealed or amended that...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c907 (Link to this contribution) After that contribution, it is clear that I owe my hon. Friend the Member for Dover (Charlie Elphick...; Charlie Elphicke | 543 c905-7 (Link to this contribution) I represent what are probably some of the most Eurosceptic electors in the country, but they feel pa...; David Nuttall | 543 c901 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. It would not be at all difficult, as the Minister suggested, for ...; Jacob Rees-Mogg | 543 c901 (Link to this contribution) Not only would it not be too difficult but we have an agreement in place already under which it is a...; Tom Brake | 543 c903-4 (Link to this contribution) A number of Members have commented on the process, and it will be appropriate for the Minister to re...; Dominic Raab | 543 c901-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure, as always, to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Bury North (Mr Nuttall), who po...; David Nuttall | 543 c900-1 (Link to this contribution) I will be conscious of your remarks, Madam Deputy Speaker. It is, as always, a great pleasure to fol...; Speaker | 543 c900 (Link to this contribution) Order. This debate concludes at 9.20 and I would like to leave a few minutes at the end for the Mini...; Baroness Hoey | 543 c899-900 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree, and that is precisely what some of us wanted to ask the Minister about, but he w...; Henry Smith | 543 c899 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that if we opt in to this directive, it will be a one-way decision that we cannot...; Baroness Hoey | 543 c898-9 (Link to this contribution) It is always a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Stone (Mr Cash). The hon. Member for Camborne ...; William Cash | 543 c898 (Link to this contribution) I find it extraordinary that my hon. Friend should seek to defend the Government's breach of a serie...; Peter Bottomley | 543 c898 (Link to this contribution) Were there to be a meeting of Ministers of European Union countries during the next few days, and we...; William Cash | 543 c896-8 (Link to this contribution) The issue here is one of process as well as substance. I am sorry that the Lord Chancellor has just ...; Keith Vaz | 543 c895-6 (Link to this contribution) I intend to speak very briefly. The hon. Member for Camborne and Redruth (George Eustice) made an el...; George Eustice | 543 c894-5 (Link to this contribution) I have a number of concerns about the motion. First, it is not just about introducing a directive, b...; William Cash | 543 c892 (Link to this contribution) Does the shadow Minister accept that it is a prerequisite that the European Scrutiny Committee shoul...; Andy Slaughter | 543 c892 (Link to this contribution) I do, and I was going to deal with that matter after raising a number of specific points of concern....; Keith Vaz | 543 c892 (Link to this contribution) I agree with everything that my hon. Friend has said so far, but will he look in particular at the i...; Andy Slaughter | 543 c892-3 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to do that, and I am even happier to note the support from my Back Benchers—the almost un...; Peter Bottomley | 543 c893 (Link to this contribution) First, does the hon. Gentleman, who is doing well, if I can say so without being patronising, think ...; Andy Slaughter | 543 c893 (Link to this contribution) I accept what the Minister has said—that the matter is at an early stage and we should not press him...; Andy Slaughter | 543 c893 (Link to this contribution) Ah! His proxy also wishes to intervene.; Charlie Elphicke | 543 c893 (Link to this contribution) I am proud to be the proxy for my hon. Friend the Member for Worthing West (Sir Peter Bottomley), an...; Andy Slaughter | 543 c893-4 (Link to this contribution) I must get around to reading that book, because it is quoted to me so often in these debates and exa...; Baroness Hoey | 543 c885 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c885 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady will forgive me, let me get our position on the measure on the record, then I will ...; William Cash | 543 c885 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way to the Chair of the Scrutiny Committee?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c884 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 5833/12 and Addenda 1 and 2...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c884-5 (Link to this contribution) I will deal with that, but in deciding whether to exercise the opt-out, the Government looked at the...; David Davis | 543 c884 (Link to this contribution) In the Ministry of Justice's impact analysis, the summary is that the overall impact is"““likely to ...; Baroness Hoey | 543 c887 (Link to this contribution) I thought it was this Government's policy to bring back gradually more powers from Europe. The direc...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c886 (Link to this contribution) No. My intention was to respond to the intervention made by my right hon. Friend the Member for Halt...; Jacob Rees-Mogg | 543 c887 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Jacob Rees-Mogg | 543 c886 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c885-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Chair of the Scrutiny Committee for that point, but I will have to take advice ...; William Cash | 543 c885 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that the Government's explanatory memorandum of 13 February did not mention...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c885 (Link to this contribution) Given my hon. Friend's position, I will give way.; Jacob Rees-Mogg | 543 c886 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c886 (Link to this contribution) No. Secondly, the legal base of the measure gives the UK an effective exemption on the issue about w...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c888 (Link to this contribution) No, because these rights already exist. The suggestion in the newspapers yesterday, which I am sure ...; Dominic Raab | 543 c888 (Link to this contribution) On that point. May I quote to the Minister directly from paragraph 50 of the impact assessment? It s...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) No. Let me turn to the substantial content of the proposed directive and the policy issues that are ...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c888 (Link to this contribution) On that point?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c888 (Link to this contribution) That case is far from unique. We should be clear that the Government want to remain within the direc...; Dominic Raab | 543 c888 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c887 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid I do not agree with the hon. Lady. The directive is important for the security of our ci...; David Nuttall | 543 c887 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c887-8 (Link to this contribution) Let us be clear about what is at stake here. Rules enabling the sharing of data have made a tangible...; Henry Smith | 543 c888 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Andy Slaughter | 543 c891 (Link to this contribution) I will begin by saying that it is not the Opposition's wish to divide the House on this resolution—; Crispin Blunt | 543 c890-1 (Link to this contribution) I will not. I am unable to, because work is still ongoing on the impact assessment to try better to ...; Peter Bottomley | 543 c890 (Link to this contribution) You are right to correct me, Madam Deputy Speaker, and I think that I am also right in saying that e...; Speaker | 543 c890 (Link to this contribution) Order. Minister, please resume your seat for a moment. Sir Peter, I thought that you wanted to inter...; Peter Bottomley | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend the Member for Dover (Charlie Elphicke) could put the question on costs ...; Peter Bottomley | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) I will.; Henry Smith | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?; Crispin Blunt | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) Our priority in negotiations will be to resist the application of the directive to all domestic proc...; Peter Bottomley | 543 c891 (Link to this contribution) Look behind you.; Andy Slaughter | 543 c891 (Link to this contribution) I think I will take interventions a little later in my speech. It is not my wish to speak for long....; Crispin Blunt | 543 c891 (Link to this contribution) This is as good as it gets.; Andy Slaughter | 543 c891-2 (Link to this contribution) He is in a pretty desperate situation if that is true. The animation in these debates often comes f...; William Cash | 543 c898 (Link to this contribution) I concur. Other hon. Members wish to speak, so all I can say is that this matter will not to be allo...; Crispin Blunt | 543 c887 (Link to this contribution) If we were outside the directive, our ability to negotiate essential data-sharing agreements, such a...; Henry Smith | 543 c886 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?; Jacob Rees-Mogg | 543 c898 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the real reason why this is being done in this appalling way, completely ignoring t...; Charlie Elphicke | 543 c889 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
EC documents: 5833/2012
Subjects: Data protection Databases Criminal records Crime prevention Criminal investigation Cross border cooperation EU countries EU law International cooperation Police Schengen Agreement
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Data Protection in the Areas of Police and Criminal Justice (EU Directive)

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