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That the Grand Committee do report to the House that it has considered the Electronic Commerce Directive (Hatred against Persons on Religious Grounds or the Grounds of Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2010. Relevant document: 5th Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments.

Member
Lord Bach (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2010
Reference
717 c317GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, these regulations are a technical measure to implement the EU directive on electronic commerce—known conveniently as the e-commerce directive—in respect of the offences in Part 3A of the Public Order Act 1986. The regulations will enable us to commence the offences of stirring up hatred on grounds of...

Member
Lord Bach (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2010
Reference
717 c317-9GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for introducing the draft statutory instrument, which he described as a technical measure. I have to say that it is a very technical measure, which I had considerable problems trying to understand as I travelled down on the train this morning. I was of...

Member
Lord Henley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2010
Reference
717 c319GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as the Minister describes it, this is a technical measure and I, too, was slightly confused by it. I decided that this was due to it being above my pay grade, rather than being unclear also to those who were slightly better versed in the measures. It is...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2010
Reference
717 c320GC
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to both noble Lords for their support and contributions. I am delighted that these technical regulations have become marginally clearer as a consequence of my describing them. I will attempt to answer the questions raised. On the issue of racial and sexual equality, the Acts of Parliament...

Member
Lord Bach (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2010
Reference
717 c320-1GC
House
House of Lords

Draft Electronic Commerce Directive (Hatred against Persons on Religious Grounds or the Grounds of Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2010. Lords debate on a motion to consider. Agreed to on question. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

Lead member
Lord Bach
Answering member
Lord Henley
Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
1 March 2010
Reference
717 c317-21GC
House
House of Lords

Draft Electronic Commerce Directive (Hatred against Persons on Religious Grounds or the Grounds of Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2010. Considered by Delegated Legislation Committee. (vote).

Type
Debates on delegated legislation; Delegated Legislation Committee proceedings
Date
2 February 2010
Reference
3rd DLC
House
House of Commons

Draft Electronic Commerce Directive (Hatred against Persons on Religious Grounds or the Grounds of Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2010. Together with an explanatory memorandum from the Ministry of Justice. Laid before Parliament for approval by resolution of each House. Coming into force the day after the regulations are made.

Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Statutory instruments
Date
5 January 2010
Reference
SI 2010/894
House
House of Commons; House of Lords

Coroners and Justice Bill. Lords consideration of Commons reason and amendment. Lords amendments 1, 2, 216 not insisted on, and amendment 1B proposed in lieu. Lords amendment 55 not insisted on, and an amendment in lieu disagreed to. Lords amendments 59, 119, 121, 236, 239 insisted on. Lords amendment 66...

Department
Ministry of Justice
Type
Debates on bills
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c823-72
House
House of Lords

I am afraid that it does. The point that I was about to make is that legislation, in the signals that it sends to the world outside, can have an impact on behaviour way beyond the actual meaning of the words in the legislation. There is already a huge amount...

Member
Lord Smith of Finsbury (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c856
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to plead with your Lordships’ House to reject the amendment and agree with the House of Commons. I do so because it is important for us to recognise the signal that legislation sometimes sends to the world outside. The problem is that we are faced with...

Member
Lord Smith of Finsbury (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c855
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I oppose the amendment. As the Minister said, this is the fourth time that we have discussed this issue. In July, the noble Lord, Lord Waddington, was successful in gaining the support of a majority of your Lordships. It is before us again tonight because the Government, I...

Member
Baroness Turner of Camden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c851-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendment 66 seeks to establish an independent commissioner for terrorist suspects. As my noble friend Lord Brett indicated in Committee, we are concerned that the establishment of such a commissioner would have a detrimental effect on the efficient and effective conduct of terrorist investigations. Such investigations are fast-moving...

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c867-9
House
House of Lords

That this House do not insist on its Amendment 66 to which the Commons have disagreed and do agree with the Commons in their Amendment 66A in lieu thereof. That this House do not insist on its Amendment 66 to which the Commons have disagreed and do agree with the...

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c866-7
House
House of Lords

I am bound to say that I have been rather surprised by the Minister’s reply. At no time has he sought to address the issue before the House tonight. There is no doubt that there have been abuses in the sense of inappropriate action by the police. My amendment is...

Member
Lord Waddington (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c863-4
House
House of Lords

I hope that I have answered my noble friend; he knows ACPO’s position. I repeat that these offences relate only to threatening words and behaviour intended to stir up hatred. They were introduced because of the fact that gay men were often subject to attacks of this kind. That is...

Member
Lord Bach (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c863
House
House of Lords

My Lords, perhaps I may first address the concerns of the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, who explained rather better than I can from my notes the basis of his first point. Proposed new subsection (3A) is meant to relate to the narrow point of operational police matters. Because the ICVs...

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c871-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I share the regrets and concerns expressed by the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Jones. Of course, the purpose of the new clause agreed to by this House is to ensure that, where the police apply for an extension of the period of detention for a terrorist suspect, the judge...

Member
Lord Pannick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c870-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I find it disappointing that the Government’s objection to the notion of having a special commissioner for terrorist suspects is based on the idea that it would somehow obstruct speedy or fair process. This idea is part of UK experience; it has been in operation in Northern Ireland....

Member
Baroness Neville-Jones (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c869-70
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I come from a city where there is freedom. You can write to the local newspaper, criticise gay pride, raise issues on the radio and in phone-ins, and no action is taken by the police. Will the Minister clarify the position as regards ACPO, given that we are...

Member
Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 November 2009
Reference
714 c862
House
House of Lords