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Road Safety Bill [HL]

That may be so but if the noble Baroness reads the road haulage press she must be aware of the pressure that is being brought by the road haulage industry for the speed limit for lorries to be raised to improve the productivity of the fleet. That is a factor in the whole of the discussion. I am not in any way ignorant of the facts; I know what I am talking about. I travel behind lorries but it is rare to find an HGV travelling at 40 miles per hour, as the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, said. They usually travel at about 50 miles per hour. If the speed limit were raised, they would travel even faster. We are back to the same argument that we have had about motorways—that the current limits are as safe as they can be. Some lorries could go faster. The modern lorries to which reference has been made have much better braking, much better visibility and so on. However, that does not constitute the whole of the lorry fleet and we have to take into account the whole of the lorry fleet.