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Terrorism Bill

I am seeking to demonstrate how these two issues would operate together. The noble Lord presses the point in one way, but the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, says, ““It is all part of a professional duty. You have to look at the circumstances””. These are circumstances of fact. I am saying very clearly that this would provide for librarians and others a perfectly proper defence of which they could avail themselves without difficulty. If we struck out ““and”” and replaced it with ““or””, one would be covered by either the first two provisions or by Clause 2(9)(d). The intent to which I referred is the one set out in paragraph (d). It states that,"““the conduct in relation to that publication, so far as it contained matter by reference to which it was a terrorist publication by virtue of subsection (2)(b), was not intended by him to provide or make available assistance to any person in the commission or preparation of acts of terrorism””." So when I spoke of intent, I spoke of it in terms of Clause 2(9)(d).