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Proceeding contribution from Baroness Hanham (Conservative) in the House of Lords on Monday, 22 June 2009. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Policing and Crime Bill.


Policing and Crime Bill

Before we conclude this debate, if we are going to, I want to go back to both the legislation and what the Minister has said. I am now slightly concerned that the Minister has suggested regulations. There is no room for regulations in this Bill because it does not say anything about them, which means that there is no possibility of them coming to this House. We may later have to insert an amendment that says that the regulations on consultation must be brought forward. To widen this a little further, my amendment would amend Section 6(2) of the Police Act, which is what we are talking about. The Minister suggested that it would not, but it would. Clause 1(1) says that the Police Act, as it is presently structured, states that the police authority "must have regard". That is a very wobbly phrase and I wonder how it got through parliamentary scrutiny. It might mean absolutely anything. From what the Minister has said, I suppose that the regulations will point out how they "must have regard". That is not here. We do not have any information at all about how the police authorities will be asked to carry out this important duty. I accept what the Minister says: in lists there are always difficulties over making sure that everybody is included. However, my amendment mentions, ""any other people or organisations they consider relevant"." I ask the Minister to go a little further and to give us an opportunity to probe more on exactly how this consultation will take place. Will it be formal consultation or will there be visits to, and discussions with, youth organisations by the police? It would be worth getting a little more body around this so that we know what will happen.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
711 c1358-9 
Session
2008-09
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Children Accountability Crime prevention Discipline Crime Audit Anti-social behaviour Cooperation Association of Chief Police Officers Equality Finance Freedom of information ICT Greater London Equipment Ethnic groups HM Inspectorate of Constabulary Industrial democracy Local government Police Powers Public appointments Payments Procurement Police authorities Minority groups Metropolitan Police Metropolitan Police Authority Scotland Standards Surveillance Young people Trade unions Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis Association of Police Authorities Police Senior Appointments Panel
Legislation
Policing and Crime Bill 2008-09
Link
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