Debate on Thursday, 6 December 2007, in the House of Commons, led by Jonathan Shaw. The answering member was Bill Wiggin.
Fisheries
Debate on motion to consider the matter of fisheries. Agreed to on question.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 468 c1028-68
- Session
- 2007-08
- Department
- Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Commons chamber
- Proceeding contributions
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Speaker | 468 c1046 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before I call the next speaker may I say to the House that the eight-minute time limit on Bac...
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Austin Mitchell | 468 c1063-4 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Minister on taking over the most important job in Government. He f...
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Ann Winterton | 468 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) I will not, because of the time. The food source has been destroyed by the EU's previous high quota...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1066-7 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not give way. The hon. Gentleman castigated us over discards. Although 8,000 tonnes in t...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1066 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to reply to this debate, although I now have just nine minutes to ...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1064-6 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to contribute to the debate, especially as I have had to hang around London, and the outer...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1068 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. He said that, after the party, we could all go out to sea, but I am not sure whether that wo...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1068 (Link to this contribution) And the rest of us.
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1055 (Link to this contribution) On a point of information, the hon. Gentleman may know that the Faroese have quite a sizeable long-l...
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Michael Jabez Foster | 468 c1056-8 (Link to this contribution) I always want to come along to such debates and speak on behalf of the fishermen of Hastings and Rye...
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Robert Goodwill | 468 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and the automatic baiting systems and the measures that are ...
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Alan Reid | 468 c1058 (Link to this contribution) For the west of Scotland fleet, the mainstay stock is nephrops. The nephrops stock was not scientifi...
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Alan Reid | 468 c1059 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. The error has certainly had a serious eff...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1058 (Link to this contribution) The deduction occurred as a result of an error in the translation of documents, and has had a seriou...
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Ann Winterton | 468 c1061-2 (Link to this contribution) It is some time since I have tried to speak in a debate on fisheries policy. I note that the issues ...
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Martin Salter | 468 c1059-61 (Link to this contribution) I was pleased to contribute to last year's fisheries debate and remind the House that fisheries are ...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1062 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady give way?
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Alistair Carmichael | 468 c1051 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman, who gave us 18 minutes on the subject of sea angling and bass, asks me to sit do...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1051 (Link to this contribution) Sit down then.
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Alistair Carmichael | 468 c1050-1 (Link to this contribution) I cannot fault my hon. Friend's argument. The position with regard to west coast nephrops is particu...
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Alan Reid | 468 c1050 (Link to this contribution) On days at sea, is my hon. Friend aware that the Commissioner proposed a 25 per cent. cut in days at...
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Alistair Carmichael | 468 c1048-50 (Link to this contribution) First, let me associate myself, and my right hon. and hon. Friends, with the Minister's very appropr...
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Stephen Ladyman | 468 c1046-8 (Link to this contribution) I have just heard the most extraordinary speech from the hon. Member for Leominster (Bill Wiggin). T...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1045-6 (Link to this contribution) It is so tempting to make policy on the hoof, but I am not going to do it. When we come forward with...
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Frank Doran | 468 c1051-3 (Link to this contribution) I wish to associate myself with the comments made by all contributors to the debate about the sacrif...
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Robert Goodwill | 468 c1053-5 (Link to this contribution) It certainly has not been too sunny in No. 10 Downing street in recent weeks. Many people in my con...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but the hon. Gentleman must accept that the gap is still there.
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Mike Weir | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) It is a start.
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) I will in a moment—the Under-Secretary must keep calm. He has only just got the job. I cannot say, “...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) It is no good the Under-Secretary trying to give us lectures, because the evidence contradicts his c...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) I agree that it is the right way forward. I should like much more to be done. We are not even close ...
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Mike Weir | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) Far be it from me to give aid and comfort to the Government, but does not the hon. Gentleman accept ...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1043 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is getting on to a better footing after asking whether I agreed with the fisherme...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1043-5 (Link to this contribution) I should love to believe the Under-Secretary and I am sure that he means well. However, we heard all...
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Michael Jabez Foster | 468 c1045 (Link to this contribution) I am encouraged by the hon. Gentleman's apparent support for the 10 m and under sector. I join him i...
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Michael Jabez Foster | 468 c1041 (Link to this contribution) The question asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Reading, West (Martin Salter) is one that my con...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1041 (Link to this contribution) There is a genuine problem that I shall not be able to solve. The hon. Gentleman is trying to get me...
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Andrew George | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) What did you do?
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Andrew George | 468 c1041 (Link to this contribution) My point is not on minimum landing sizes, and I hesitate to intrude on the spat between the Conserva...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman reads the early-day motion that I have tabled, he will find that very reassuri...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) That is precisely the problem. It is no good saying, ““One or the other.”” It is essential to have t...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) My Whip is reminding me that things went pretty well without me; I think I shall have to stop at tha...
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Simon Burns | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) We did quite well without you.
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1042 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman asks what I did; I was not here 10 years ago. What a shame! Things might have bee...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1035-6 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman knows, I have visited the south-west. I have not yet been to Newlyn, but I hav...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1036-7 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the brave fishermen who have lost their lives in the past 12 months. We should alwa...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1037 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for providing those statistics. He will be aware that we have ag...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1037-9 (Link to this contribution) So the Minister does not dispute the fact that he is cutting the budget. Despite the important role...
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Martin Salter | 468 c1039 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for giving way and for plagiarising a large section of my speech on bass ...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1039 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman confirm whether he is still Labour's spokesman for angling?
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Martin Salter | 468 c1040 (Link to this contribution) It is touching to hear a Conservative Front Bencher quoting from ““Labour's Charter for Angling””. I...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1039-40 (Link to this contribution) If he is, how come he has not been given a job, despite doing that for 10 years? Is it not the case ...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1040-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman had his answer—if he was paying attention. There are plenty of other things that ...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1033-4 (Link to this contribution) Oh, he is not. That was clearly a fisherman's tale, then. Birds Eye now produces fish fingers in Ger...
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Andrew George | 468 c1034 (Link to this contribution) The Minister mentioned the positive and constructive role played by the industry in initiatives such...
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Andrew George | 468 c1035 (Link to this contribution) I shall be quick. Given that in the western approaches the quota of cod was caught in the early autu...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1035 (Link to this contribution) For the last time. Many other hon. Members wish to speak.
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Andrew George | 468 c1035 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1035 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. I shall look into the matter that he has raised on beha...
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Roger Williams | 468 c1035 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is right to highlight the rich and diverse ecosystem for which he is responsible. In my...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1034 (Link to this contribution) I regret that since my appointment, I have not been out on a fishing boat. The hon. Gentleman will a...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1030-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a good point. I will talk later in my speech about the amount of fish that ...
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Robert Goodwill | 468 c1030 (Link to this contribution) On the sustainability of cod, does the Minister accept that 95 per cent. of the cod consumed in this...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1031-2 (Link to this contribution) Members of the EU cannot pick and mix their policies. They cannot say, ““We'll be part of this but n...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1031 (Link to this contribution) If the policy of the hon. Gentleman's party is to pull out of the CFP, he will not be at any table. ...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that it would be easier for him to make his case at the top table in Europe ...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1032 (Link to this contribution) No one will disagree with my hon. Friend. He is absolutely right: British fish fingers are now made ...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1028 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of fisheries." I am pleased to open my fir...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention. In my reply to the hon. Member for Lewes (Norman Baker), I soug...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1029 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will be aware that a UK position has been agreed with all my colleagues. We will ...
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David Drew | 468 c1029 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister assure me that any decision will be based on sound science? Given that at the mome...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1029 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. All our negotiating positions for the December Council meeting w...
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Alistair Carmichael | 468 c1029-30 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that haddock is a sustainable fishery? If he does, can he explain the answe...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has raised this issue with me on behalf of his constituents. I will look into the mat...
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Robert Smith | 468 c1029 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the Minister recognises the need for sustainability. To that end, will he pay tribute...
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1029 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. We have been working across the sector and the voluntary real-time closures that have be...
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Mike Weir | 468 c1029 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister aware that the EU is still proposing a reduction in days at sea for Scottish fisherm...
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Andrew Miller | 468 c1028 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to be the first to intervene on my hon. Friend in his new role. He is aware of the impo...
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Bill Wiggin | 468 c1066 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?
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Jonathan Shaw | 468 c1034 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. We need to look at closures, as I suggested to hon. Members representin...
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Robert Goodwill | 468 c1034 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his generosity in giving way again. Given what he said about learning from ...
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Angus Brendan MacNeil | 468 c1031 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister perhaps feel that Scotland would be better off going toe to toe with the EU, as No...
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Austin Mitchell | 468 c1032 (Link to this contribution) I echo the Minister's praise for Young's, a firm of which we in Grimsby are very proud. The principl...
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- Common fisheries policy Conservation Fisheries Fishing catches Fish White fish Total allowable catches
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