Adjournment debate on Thursday, 24 January 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Mike Gapes. The answering member was Kim Howells.
Global Security (Middle East)
Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on global security and the Middle East. (Inc ref to Foreign Affairs Select Committee eighth report of session 2006-07, HC 363 and the Government response, Cm 7212.)
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- 470 c499-532WH
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- 2007-08
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Global security: the Middle East. Government response to the Foreign Affairs Select Committee eighth report of session 2006-07 (HC 363).
Tuesday, 9 October 2007
Command papers
House of Commons
- Proceeding contributions
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Mike Gapes | 470 c502WH (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. I was pleased to meet a group of Egyptian parliamentarians yesterday. They were in the U...
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Bob Spink | 470 c504WH (Link to this contribution) What is the hon. Gentleman's feeling about the allied policy of training, putting in uniform and arm...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c504WH (Link to this contribution) In post-conflict societies, people are often taken out of factions and groups, brought under the new...
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Bob Spink | 470 c502-3WH (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to hon. Gentleman for a substantial and balanced report. I know that getting the balan...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c503-4WH (Link to this contribution) It is not for us to prescribe to the people of any country the political system they should adopt. H...
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John Stanley | 470 c505-6WH (Link to this contribution) I am aware of those restrictive terms of reference, but if the former Prime Minister runs true to fo...
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David Drew | 470 c506WH (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely with the right hon. Gentleman and with his moral case, but does he accept that, wha...
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John Stanley | 470 c505WH (Link to this contribution) Once again, it is a pleasure to follow the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Committee, the hon. Membe...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c505WH (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman concede that one of the problems with Tony Blair's mission is that his...
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John Stanley | 470 c506-9WH (Link to this contribution) That is a criticism—if that is the hon. Gentleman's intention—more of the American Government than o...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c499-500WH (Link to this contribution) Today we debate the eighth report of 2006-07 of the Foreign Affairs Committee, published on 13 Augus...
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Alistair Carmichael | 470 c500WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman comes to the nub of the matter, which is engagement with Hamas. Does he agree tha...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c501WH (Link to this contribution) The question is who one engages with, how one does it and for what purpose. The Committee suggests n...
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Karen Buck | 470 c501WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend believe that we are now seeing a collective punishment of the people of Gaza and...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c501WH (Link to this contribution) There is always great danger of that outcome. On the one hand, people may get into a mindset of comp...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 470 c501WH (Link to this contribution) Like other hon. Members, I consider the Committee's report a very good one. The situation in Gaza is...
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Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 470 c502WH (Link to this contribution) In the context of Egypt and the engagement of parliamentarians, does my hon. Friend recognise that e...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c501-2WH (Link to this contribution) While rockets are being fired and people in border towns are living in fear of such attacks, one can...
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Richard Burden | 470 c513WH (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help my hon. Friends. Between 1 January and 30 November last year, 1,204 Qassam rocket...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c513WH (Link to this contribution) We now have the figures. We now know the number of people who were injured and died, all of which I ...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c513WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for my hon. Friend's inquisition. Perhaps he can help us with the exact number. I have...
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Sion Simon | 470 c514WH (Link to this contribution) A fundamental cause.
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Sion Simon | 470 c514WH (Link to this contribution) My figures say that there have been 200 rocket attacks in the past 10 days from Gaza into Israeli sc...
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Richard Burden | 470 c514WH (Link to this contribution) Are they the fundamental cause of the problem? No, I do not think they are.
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Bob Spink | 470 c514WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Chairman of the Committee for that explanation, which I accept. I hope that he ...
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Richard Burden | 470 c514WH (Link to this contribution) Like everyone who has spoken so far, I welcome the report. It is comprehensive and balanced, and I c...
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Bob Spink | 470 c513-4WH (Link to this contribution) Again, I congratulate the Committee on this excellent report on a difficult matter. I shall speak o...
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Mike Gapes | 470 c514WH (Link to this contribution) For the record, each year, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office produces an annual human rights repor...
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Bob Spink | 470 c509WH (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend confirm that some at least of the bodies of those women had notes pinned t...
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John Stanley | 470 c509-10WH (Link to this contribution) There is no specific report of that in the article, but if my hon. Friend says it, I am sure it is s...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c511-2WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, my hon. Friend is correct. Relations with Egypt are not normal by any stretch of the imaginatio...
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Sion Simon | 470 c512WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend said that he regretted the rockets being fired out of Gaza into Israeli on to people'...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c512-3WH (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend will find that I used the word ““condemn”” rather than ““regret””. I do ...
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Sion Simon | 470 c513WH (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I did not hear, but one thing that prompted me to intervene was that I do not think that my ...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c510-1WH (Link to this contribution) In view of the number of hon. Members who want to speak and the fact that we are trying to finish at...
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Malcolm Moss | 470 c511WH (Link to this contribution) I am following the hon. Gentleman's argument carefully, and he obviously knows far more about Gaza t...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c511WH (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman will know, Israel presumes to have control of all borders between Palestine an...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c511WH (Link to this contribution) Is not the reality that, after the war with Egypt, part of the treaty was intended to prevent the Eg...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c523WH (Link to this contribution) Well, there is a Mr. Lieberman in the coalition Israeli Government who wants to drive the Arabs into...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c522WH (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend wants to ask me a question, will he answer this: what have the Israelis done to mo...
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Sion Simon | 470 c522WH (Link to this contribution) That is exactly what I was going to talk about. Surely the truth is that the whole history of the pr...
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Sion Simon | 470 c522WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Richard Burden | 470 c515WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. It must be a matter of concern to all parliamentarians that elect...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c515WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend must be aware that, following the parliamentary election, a large number of those ele...
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Richard Burden | 470 c514-5WH (Link to this contribution) I do not think they are a fundamental cause. They are to be condemned and they are unjustified. I ha...
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Sion Simon | 470 c517WH (Link to this contribution) On that point, perhaps my hon. Friend could explain what all this mistreatment has to do with, if no...
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Richard Burden | 470 c517WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has had a lot of goes. I will give him this one, but after that I will have to make s...
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Sion Simon | 470 c517WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Richard Burden | 470 c516-7WH (Link to this contribution) The arrests of Palestinian parliamentarians have taken place by and large on the basis of membership...
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Sion Simon | 470 c515-6WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that if one is a terrorist who is dedicated to using death and murder to a...
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Richard Burden | 470 c515WH (Link to this contribution) I shall have to make some progress.
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Mike Gapes | 470 c520WH (Link to this contribution) For the record, I think that my hon. Friend meant to refer to the barrier between Egypt and Gaza, an...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c519-20WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford, South (Mike Gapes), the Chairman of the Foreign...
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Malcolm Moss | 470 c520-1WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is painting a picture of a dire situation in Gaza. No one can listen to what he i...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c520WH (Link to this contribution) I appreciate my hon. Friend's correction. That is exactly what I intended to say. Gaza is a prison,...
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Richard Burden | 470 c517-8WH (Link to this contribution) That is a question that my hon. Friend must address to the person who is responsible for the quote t...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c521-2WH (Link to this contribution) We must welcome that and hope that the aid is allowed across the crossing points. I shall be looking...
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Sion Simon | 470 c521WH (Link to this contribution) Surely it is important to understand that those politicians are not politicians as we understand the...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c521WH (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the politicians who run Hamas care about their own people. In fact, that is the reaso...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 470 c521WH (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend aware that on 26 January—this Saturday—humanitarian groups and human rights organi...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c521WH (Link to this contribution) Of course there are some extremists in Gaza—I do not deny it—and, obviously, some people fire rocket...
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David Lidington | 470 c528-30WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has identified one of the major problems with taking forward the Annapolis propos...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c527WH (Link to this contribution) Is that not the crux of the problem in Israel? Every time we move towards a radical solution, one me...
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Kim Howells | 470 c530-2WH (Link to this contribution) I echo hon. Members' congratulations on not just the report but the contributions that have been mad...
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Jo Swinson | 470 c525WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. It is vital that movement from either side should be picked up and the ...
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Kim Howells | 470 c525WH (Link to this contribution) The Quartet works closely with the Arab League, and I am constantly in contact with Amru Musa, its s...
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Jo Swinson | 470 c525-7WH (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome that statement. The US has been the key player in the peace process, but we need...
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David Lidington | 470 c527WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Ilford, South (Mike Gapes) and the entire Foreign Affairs Committ...
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Richard Burden | 470 c524WH (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree that, although things are now very serious and the implication is that some...
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Jo Swinson | 470 c524WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. We obviously need to get to that point, but the two sce...
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Malcolm Moss | 470 c524WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady mentioned Northern Ireland. We have to be very careful not to read across from the Nor...
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Jo Swinson | 470 c523-4WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, the hon. Member for Ilford, South (Mike G...
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Brian Iddon | 470 c523WH (Link to this contribution) I am about to finish. I urge everyone in the Chamber, whatever their opinions—opinions are polarised...
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Malcolm Moss | 470 c523WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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