Adjournment debate on Thursday, 16 October 2008, in the House of Commons, led by Peter Luff. The answering member was Maria Eagle.
Jobs for the Girls: Two Years On
Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on the Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform Committee second report of session 2007-08 "Jobs for the Girls - Two Years on" (HC 291) and the government response (HC 634)
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- 2007-08
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Maria Eagle | 480 c363WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valuable point, and I shall take it up with the Department for Culture, Media...
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Peter Luff | 480 c363WH (Link to this contribution) I am so grateful for the comment made by the hon. Member for Hampstead and Highgate. I acquired some...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c363WH (Link to this contribution) I do not agree that society was not set up in a discriminatory way: it most certainly was. It has mo...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c364WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. The more styles and different approaches there are, and the more they r...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c364WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a powerful point very well, and I do not think anyone would disagree with h...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c364WH (Link to this contribution) I totally agree with the passion of the last two comments, which were good and strong ones. Another...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c364WH (Link to this contribution) A problem with work placements, particularly in construction, is that boys, let alone girls, are not...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c365WH (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that a serious problem, not just in this area of work, but in many areas, is...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c364-5WH (Link to this contribution) I will certainly take that up with my colleagues in the relevant Departments who are tackling the is...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c366WH (Link to this contribution) I appreciate that the evidence is not yet in, but on the precise point about the learning and skills...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c366WH (Link to this contribution) I do not disagree. Of course, there is always an issue about transmission mechanisms and learning. W...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c366WH (Link to this contribution) Just point at them.
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Maria Eagle | 480 c366WH (Link to this contribution) I can remember the constituencies; I just cannot remember who made the point. It may have been my ho...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c365WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, we need to see how well the quality part-time work pilots went, and I cannot yet give an answer...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c369WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister; she has been generous in taking interventions. It would assist the Ho...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c368-9WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, my hon. Friend is right that there is a difference between how a policy is implemented and whet...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c369WH (Link to this contribution) It is a dynamic process.
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Maria Eagle | 480 c369WH (Link to this contribution) I cannot tell the hon. Gentleman precisely when that will be. I can tell him that progress on gettin...
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Peter Luff | 480 c367WH (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to be partisan, but I happen to have a Conservative document here that describes some ...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c367-8WH (Link to this contribution) Certainly my experience as the Minister for disabled people and my work in trying to carry the torch...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c368WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister and the rest of the House will know that policy making in any Department and in any Opp...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c368WH (Link to this contribution) Of course I will wait and see, but until then I have to draw my own conclusions. I will wait with in...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c368WH (Link to this contribution) During the past year I have been on the Select Committee on Regulatory Reform, which is allowed to g...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c369-72WH (Link to this contribution) We are not planning a draft Bill. There has been a lot of consultation on this issue, and we want to...
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Peter Luff | 480 c369WH (Link to this contribution) Is it the Government's view that there has been so much consultation that it will be just a straight...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c369WH (Link to this contribution) It is always a dynamic process. Trying to get this right is a very complicated process. It is import...
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Peter Luff | 480 c335-6WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady may like to know that immediately after this debate I am meeting the Minister with res...
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Peter Luff | 480 c333WH (Link to this contribution) The Business and Enterprise Committee.
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c332-3WH (Link to this contribution) Yes. I want also to place on the record, as the hon. Member for Mid-Worcestershire has, our thanks t...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c332WH (Link to this contribution) Make sure you get the proper pay rise.
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c332WH (Link to this contribution) What an invitation. I thank the hon. Gentleman.
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c334-5WH (Link to this contribution) That is a huge question. Such a process has to start right at the beginning of people's lives and in...
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David Leslie Taylor | 480 c334WH (Link to this contribution) Of course, this is not just a matter of skills and education. I declare an interest as the father of...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c333-4WH (Link to this contribution) The Business and Enterprise Committee and its predecessor in this area, the Trade and Industry Commi...
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Peter Luff | 480 c332WH (Link to this contribution) I should have explained that the hon. Lady is sadly no longer on the Committee. She left us briefly ...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c331WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who chairs the Committee so ably, for giving way. He has obviously ...
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Peter Luff | 480 c329-31WH (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to speak to a report that comes from my Committee. I did not Chair the Sub-Co...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c331-2WH (Link to this contribution) I am pleased with that opening to the debate on our report. I appreciate the support that we receive...
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Peter Luff | 480 c331WH (Link to this contribution) This is a cop-out answer in the sense that I think it is all three. The idea of relying on only one ...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c342WH (Link to this contribution) You are not a million miles from one of them now.
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c342-3WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, this place might be one—but when I found the sheet of advice again yesterday I thought perhaps ...
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Julie Morgan | 480 c343-4WH (Link to this contribution) This is an important debate on an important report. I congratulate the Committee on that report and ...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c339WH (Link to this contribution) I tend to take the view that that reflects badly on people's management rather than on the needs of ...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c339WH (Link to this contribution) The points that my hon. Friend raises on the management of work forces are interesting. However, the...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c339-42WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. Interestingly, officials from the Graphical, Paper and Media Union came...
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Julie Morgan | 480 c339WH (Link to this contribution) I support the recommendation in my hon. Friend's report to extend the right to request flexible work...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c336-9WH (Link to this contribution) That is good news. I turn to the meat of the Committee's findings on whether the women and work com...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c348-9WH (Link to this contribution) Oh we are! [Interruption.] I was not saying ““allowed”” in a political sense. I meant that I did not...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c349-50WH (Link to this contribution) I apologise on behalf of my hon. Friend the Member for Solihull (Lorely Burt), who should be respond...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c348WH (Link to this contribution) Well you might, but I do not think that we are.
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Maria Eagle | 480 c348WH (Link to this contribution) Yes you are.
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c345-8WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate and thank the Select Committee on Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform for enab...
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Julie Morgan | 480 c344-5WH (Link to this contribution) That is an extremely important point. Employers and people who run engineering courses should try to...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c344WH (Link to this contribution) I am very interested in the engineering issue. A few years ago, there was an event in the House of C...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c351WH (Link to this contribution) I am being asked to come back to the subject matter and I take the point, Mr. Williams. All too oft...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c351-2WH (Link to this contribution) Well, I praise the Minister on the achievement of getting £12.5 million out of the Chancellor of the...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c352WH (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the Sub-Committee heard evidence—I cannot remember from whom—sugges...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c350WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with that point. It is women who bear the child. I am told that at some point in the future ...
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Laura Moffatt | 480 c350WH (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman is talking about the dearth of flexible working for women, part...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c350-1WH (Link to this contribution) Some scientific research was done on a male baboon in south-east Asia so that it was taken to within...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c350WH (Link to this contribution) We are already wincing.
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c354-5WH (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. When I was a member of the Select Committee on the Environment, we were the first ...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c355WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman needs to be careful with his argument. Obviously we need action on all fronts and...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c354WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to have you in the Chair, Mr. Williams. It is also a pleasure to support the excell...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c354WH (Link to this contribution) I think that the fact that the title has caught the hon. Gentleman's attention makes our point. Give...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c355WH (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady hears me out for the rest of my speech, she will find that I shall deal, and agree ...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c352-3WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady's point is entirely correct, as were her earlier points about pay reviews. I know that...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c353-4WH (Link to this contribution) It is within the power of Members of this House to affect the Commission. I am fairly sure that if t...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c353WH (Link to this contribution) The employment practices of this House are dealt with by the Commission, not by the Government. Perh...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c353WH (Link to this contribution) Well, the cafeteria must have been downstairs or underneath. I know that it was in this part of the ...
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Peter Luff | 480 c353WH (Link to this contribution) It was the Grand Committee Room.
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c355-6WH (Link to this contribution) One of the reasons that women receive less pension is the current contribution system. Is it now the...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c356WH (Link to this contribution) The whole pensions area is difficult and I will not commit to that on behalf of the Conservative par...
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Peter Luff | 480 c356WH (Link to this contribution) I must give an advertisement for my own county. I am glad to say that should we sweep the board in W...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c356-8WH (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to concur with my hon. Friend. Having met at least one such female candidate, who wil...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c356WH (Link to this contribution) I am glad to hear the hon. Gentleman highlighting that issue. What is his party going to do about it...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c356WH (Link to this contribution) I was not going to say this, but if one examines the number of female prospective parliamentary cand...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c358WH (Link to this contribution) On the hon. Gentleman's previous points about flexible working, I find his party's change of heart o...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c358WH (Link to this contribution) Obviously, the aspiration must be for all two-year-olds, but we want to start with the most disadvan...
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Laura Moffatt | 480 c358WH (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman. Will he clarify something for me? He is reading us t...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c358-9WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady may know that international trade is part of my Front-Bench responsibilities. I spend ...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c359WH (Link to this contribution) The comment that was critical of the Government's support for equality representatives in trade unio...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c359-61WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to be here in a new role—as of last week—as one of the Equality Ministers. I have, ...
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Glenda Jackson | 480 c361WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with what the Minister says, but equally that stereotyping goes on long beyond the point of ...
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c359WH (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c359WH (Link to this contribution) I anticipated that that would bring one of the Government Members to their feet.
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Judy Mallaber | 480 c359WH (Link to this contribution) As I recently attended a TUC conference of equality representatives which was strongly supported by ...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c361-2WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend to the extent that she is right that there are expectations in society a...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c362WH (Link to this contribution) Yes of course in trying to solve these problems we should look at international experience and ensur...
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Geoffrey Clifton-Brown | 480 c362WH (Link to this contribution) I mentioned how other countries are doing much better in terms of training, skills and retention tha...
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Richard Younger-Ross | 480 c362WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister's light-hearted jibe a moment ago about my expectation to be a signalman and hers to be...
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Maria Eagle | 480 c362-3WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman. I do not for one moment suggest that only gender is stereotyped. Pe...
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