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Debate on Monday, 22 February 2010, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Harman. The answering member was Lord Young of Cookham.

Report from the House of Commons Reform Committee on Rebuilding the House

Debate on a motion to consider the matter of the House of Commons Reform Committee report on Rebuilding the House (HC 1117 2008-09), and the Liaison Committee first report of session 2009-10, on Rebuilding the House: Select Committee Issues, (HC 272 2009-10).

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
506 c37-127 
Session
2009-10
Department
Leader of the House of Commons
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House of Commons chamber
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Evidence 10 February 2010. (vote)
Wednesday, 10 February 2010
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Proceeding contributions
Dai Davies | 506 c115-6 (Link to this contribution) I shall not take more than five minutes, as my hon. Friend the Independent Member for Croydon, Centr...
William Cash | 506 c116-8 (Link to this contribution) Although I am very much in favour of the proposals put forward in the report, I regret to say that i...
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Lord Brady of Altrincham | 506 c126 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm whether there will be an opportunity to vote on appointments to the Intell...
Hugh Bayley | 506 c61-2 (Link to this contribution) I am a passionate reformer. It seems to me that the hon. Gentleman is posing the argument as if put-...
Andrew Pelling | 506 c57 (Link to this contribution) I hope that this will be a helpful intervention. There has been a lot of discussion about manifesto ...
Speaker | 506 c75 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sorry, but time is up. The hon. Gentleman will not have time to finish his intervention,...
Tony Wright | 506 c74 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for my hon. Friend's invitation to help. It is true that I suggested this was a good o...
Hugh Bayley | 506 c77 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
John Stanley | 506 c76 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady will allow me, I am going to make a little more progress. I am fundamentally oppos...
Evan Harris | 506 c74 (Link to this contribution) As a fellow non-expert member of the Committee, and a fellow innocent, may I ask the hon. Lady what ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c80 (Link to this contribution) It is important to say that part of the reason why the Committee was split down the middle on Septem...
Chris Mullin | 506 c80 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend—I used the term "holiday from scrutiny", I did not suggest that we...
Mark Fisher | 506 c80 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that we should base our working year on our constituents' working year, an...
Chris Mullin | 506 c80 (Link to this contribution) We have to start somewhere, and I get more and more puzzled about what my hon. Friend actually wants...
Chris Mullin | 506 c79 (Link to this contribution) I do support that as an interim measure, but I should like us to get to a position at which it becom...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c79 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman knows, we did a double act of trying to get the reform of the ISC into the Wri...
Chris Mullin | 506 c77-9 (Link to this contribution) I listened with great interest to the right hon. Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Sir John Stanley)...
John Stanley | 506 c77 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I want to finish making this point. The House has very limit...
Speaker | 506 c107 (Link to this contribution) Order. On my reckoning, six hon. Members are still seeking to catch my eye, and the Front-Bench wind...
Speaker | 506 c112 (Link to this contribution) Order. There are no more than 33 minutes remaining and four hon. Members are seeking to catch my eye...
Speaker | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think the shadow Leader of the House has made it clear that he is not giving way.
Speaker | 506 c64 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is correct in his interpretation of the situation. I do not think that there shou...
Speaker | 506 c62 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I gently say to the House that I understand its enthusiasm for these issues, but some of ...
Speaker | 506 c38 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for raising this matter, although I am not sure that I am all to...
John Stanley | 506 c75 (Link to this contribution) I shall focus on just one section of the Committee's report—the section that is far and away the mos...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c125 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for giving way. Will she take the opportunity, briefly, to confirm th...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) No, I am in mid-peroration. [Interruption.]
Martin Salter | 506 c64 (Link to this contribution) It was a great pleasure to serve as a member of what is now known as the Wright Committee under the ...
David Heath | 506 c63 (Link to this contribution) I am just coming to a conclusion. The Members from the nationalist parties have all gone home, whic...
David Heath | 506 c63 (Link to this contribution) It is clear—the procedure is not, but the intention is—and I accept it as that. I am grateful to the...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c69-70 (Link to this contribution) I can do nothing but agree with the hon. Gentleman, who makes a sensible point. I believe that many ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c68 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not think that our affiliation to political parties allows us to stand up fo...
Natascha Engel | 506 c74 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for making that point, and perhaps my hon. Friend the Member for...
Speaker | 506 c37 (Link to this contribution) As the House will be aware, I have imposed a 12-minute limit on Back-Bench contributions. I hope tha...
Baroness Keeley | 506 c102 (Link to this contribution) I am looking at an article by Dr. Meg Russell which says that we should not be too romantic about th...
Diane Abbott | 506 c86 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that rather than this being a technical and navel-gazing issue, nothing co...
Mark Fisher | 506 c86 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend, but it is more a rebalancing of two distinct roles: that of th...
Mark Fisher | 506 c85 (Link to this contribution) Certainly not. He is first, foremost and always a democrat. In the excellent speech in which he eff...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c87 (Link to this contribution) That is an interesting point. I have given some thought to whether, if the Wright Committee proposal...
Mark Fisher | 506 c86-7 (Link to this contribution) I do agree. The interesting thing about the report is that it tends to concentrate on structures. T...
Robert Smith | 506 c86 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it will be an important legacy of these reforms if we do not stop...
Mark Fisher | 506 c87 (Link to this contribution) I am not entirely sure which Parliaments my hon. Friend has been a Member of if she really thinks th...
Natascha Engel | 506 c87 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the recent study by Phil Cowley from Nottingham university demonstrat...
Mark Fisher | 506 c87 (Link to this contribution) We could go on with interesting hypotheses, but the hon. Gentleman makes a good point.
Chris Mullin | 506 c80 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept the word "holidays"—they are parliamentary recesses—but I agree that there is no rea...
Evan Harris | 506 c81-3 (Link to this contribution) It was a pleasure to serve on the Reform of the House of Commons Committee under the chairmanship of...
William Cash | 506 c83 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that to give effect to his excellent suggestion, we would need time in...
Robert Smith | 506 c84 (Link to this contribution) That can, of course, be achieved in the case of the Finance Bill, which is subject to no programme o...
Evan Harris | 506 c83-4 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. The House business committee would, I think, be better able to identify, as the Library ...
Evan Harris | 506 c84 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. In fact, there are many such examples. Clearly, if there were more time for debate on Repor...
Mark Fisher | 506 c84-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Oxford, West and Abingdon (Dr. Harris), and to pay tr...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c97-8 (Link to this contribution) One of the points that I made was that we failed to get to the bottom of everything, even afterwards...
William Cash | 506 c95-6 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to disappoint my hon. Friend, but, somewhat rarely, I could not disagree with him more. G...
Bernard Jenkin | 506 c96-7 (Link to this contribution) I will come to that point, my hon. Friend need not fear. The truth is that our Parliament is no lon...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c97 (Link to this contribution) I strongly support almost all of what I have just heard; it was a very interesting speech. Today is ...
Bernard Jenkin | 506 c97 (Link to this contribution) I did not comment on this particular issue, because I wanted to keep my remarks short, but it would ...
Bernard Jenkin | 506 c94 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome many of the points raised by the hon. Member for Gloucester (Mr. Dhanda), althou...
Parmjit Dhanda | 506 c94 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with my hon. Friend, as I think the media take quite a lot of interest in this place. The...
Bernard Jenkin | 506 c95 (Link to this contribution) I agree. I am not going to address the role of Select Committees, because the subject is too large, ...
Edward Leigh | 506 c94-5 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with my hon. Friend, as I do not think that the key to increasing the power of the Parlia...
David Drew | 506 c93-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend and parliamentary neighbour for giving way. I would love the new media to be ...
Diane Abbott | 506 c93 (Link to this contribution) On the question of representation, my hon. Friend is right, but was not one of the things discovered...
Parmjit Dhanda | 506 c93 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has much more experience than me as she has campaigned for many years on these issues...
Parmjit Dhanda | 506 c93 (Link to this contribution) I will give way, but then I want to come on to what I think is the key change that we need to make i...
Greg Knight | 506 c92 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that reform is always an ongoing process and that there should never b...
Parmjit Dhanda | 506 c92-3 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is quite right. I was making the point that, as we have heard in today's de...
Parmjit Dhanda | 506 c91-2 (Link to this contribution) I have just overheard one of my colleagues describing the hon. Member for South Staffordshire (Sir P...
Lord Cormack | 506 c88-91 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow my friend, the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central (Mark Fisher...
Mark Fisher | 506 c88 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend, as I do on so many occasions. The importance of local party de...
David Drew | 506 c88 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend see the importance of revitalising local parties? We relate better to this place...
Charles Walker | 506 c108 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is being ungenerous. There are only three parliamentarians who make the weather i...
Diane Abbott | 506 c108 (Link to this contribution) Does not the complete absence of debate about the issue in this House reflect poorly on the British ...
Charles Walker | 506 c109 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a valuable point. We in this place sometimes forget why we are sent here—to repr...
Diane Abbott | 506 c106 (Link to this contribution) Given that Select Committees were set up as, and technically remain, Committees of the House, does m...
David Drew | 506 c106 (Link to this contribution) I give way to my hon. Friend and nominee.
David Drew | 506 c106-7 (Link to this contribution) I agree with that; unfortunately, my friends in the Whips Office did not seem to do so. That is why ...
Andrew Pelling | 506 c108 (Link to this contribution) Is it possible that in the Conservative party one of those three is the former editor of the News of...
Charles Walker | 506 c107-8 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Speaker, for calling me to speak in this hugely important debate. May I say, as a me...
Jo Swinson | 506 c103-4 (Link to this contribution) If we remove the power from Government alone, we will open the door to that debate. I agree that suc...
David Drew | 506 c104-6 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to speak in this debate, just as I had not intended to be a member of the Wright ...
Jo Swinson | 506 c102-3 (Link to this contribution) I agree that what has been proposed is not a perfect solution, but the Minister will know that the r...
Natascha Engel | 506 c103 (Link to this contribution) In what way will a House business committee stop that happening? My understanding is that we will no...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c98 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes his own point in his own way. Parliamentary democracy also requires there to b...
William Cash | 506 c98 (Link to this contribution) In that context, does my hon. Friend agree that when referring to Back Benchers, more often than not...
Jo Swinson | 506 c100-2 (Link to this contribution) I, too, wish to begin by congratulating the hon. Member for Cannock Chase (Dr. Wright) and all the m...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c98-100 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will forgive me, I shall not give way. The first of those three counts is the...
Baroness Keeley | 506 c124 (Link to this contribution) I, too, want to thank all our speakers. We have had a wide-ranging debate today, with contributions ...
David Howarth | 506 c114-5 (Link to this contribution) Obviously that is what Government Back Benchers should be doing, but they also have the right to jud...
Shailesh Vara | 506 c122-3 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry but I will not give way, because I have a limited amount of time available to me and I am...
Shailesh Vara | 506 c123 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I will not give way. In the concluding speech before the winding-up speeches, the ho...
Andrew Pelling | 506 c118-21 (Link to this contribution) The partnership of independent Members has a great respect for this place and a great love for it bu...
Shailesh Vara | 506 c121-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank all Members on both sides of the House who have taken part in this very important debate. I ...
Lynne Jones | 506 c114 (Link to this contribution) The Government may have a manifesto mandate, but surely the whole point of legislative scrutiny shou...
David Howarth | 506 c114 (Link to this contribution) I will give way briefly. I have not much time.
David Howarth | 506 c112-4 (Link to this contribution) The one thing that is bothering me about this debate is this: where are the opponents? I pay tribute...
Lynne Jones | 506 c114 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Diane Abbott | 506 c110-2 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate. Like everyone else who has spok...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c109 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is a wonderful Member of Parliament and an example to new Members coming into this Ho...
Charles Walker | 506 c110 (Link to this contribution) I say this to my hon. Friend: we're mad as hell and we're not going to take it any more! We are tol...
Martin Salter | 506 c109 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is clearly not seeking preferment under a future Government. Does he not agree th...
Charles Walker | 506 c109 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a great point. We give the Whips their powers. If we chose to ignore them o...
Baroness Keeley | 506 c127 (Link to this contribution) Not all of them require decisions. I should like to conclude by reminding right hon. and hon. Membe...
William Cash | 506 c124 (Link to this contribution) Will the Deputy Leader of the House give way?
Baroness Keeley | 506 c124-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that I have time. Five of the motions tabled tonight would reform how the House hand...
Baroness Keeley | 506 c125-6 (Link to this contribution) I will come to the process at the end. Successive Procedure Committees have looked into aspects of...
Lord Tyrie | 506 c125 (Link to this contribution) Will the Deputy Leader of the House give way?
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c127 (Link to this contribution) So that there is no doubt whatsoever, can the hon. Lady confirm that all the Wright recommendations ...
Baroness Keeley | 506 c126 (Link to this contribution) Just to be clear, this was covered when the Leader of the House opened the debate. We have listened ...
Tony Wright | 506 c52 (Link to this contribution) Not only do I accept that, but the hon. Gentleman anticipates what I was going to say. We recently ...
Tony Wright | 506 c53 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend—for whom, as she knows, I have great affection, whom I encouraged to be on our Commit...
Natascha Engel | 506 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) Why, then, did our Committee not start with that proposition? Our Committee started with the electio...
Hugh Bayley | 506 c54 (Link to this contribution) In my submission to the Committee, I made the point about the need for more time on the Floor of the...
Tony Wright | 506 c54 (Link to this contribution) In the time that we had available, we did not turn our mind to the composition of the Procedure Comm...
Tony Wright | 506 c53-4 (Link to this contribution) No. I have given way to my hon. Friend once, and I want to continue my speech. Reform, however, is ...
Robert Smith | 506 c54 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the recognition of petitions. The Procedure Committee did a lot of work bringing forward t...
Angus Robertson | 506 c55 (Link to this contribution) On the issue of balance, the Committee also concluded that it was important to have voices from all ...
Tony Wright | 506 c54-5 (Link to this contribution) I agree, and one of the misfortunes of what has happened is that the Procedure Committee has lost it...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c54 (Link to this contribution) To return to the point made by the hon. Member for West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine (Sir Robert Smi...
Tony Wright | 506 c54 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend raises a fundamental aspect of our recommendations. The problem in the past was that ...
Tony Wright | 506 c55 (Link to this contribution) I would like to make a little more progress.
Tony Wright | 506 c55 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the hon. Gentleman realises this, but if he reads our report, he will see that we say...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c50 (Link to this contribution) There is a specific proposal, which I support, that Select Committee debates should take place on a ...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c50 (Link to this contribution) I have no difficulty with the recommendation of the Committee on Reform of the House of Commons on t...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c50 (Link to this contribution) The Committee's proposition was that the business committee should meet and then put a proposition b...
Natascha Engel | 506 c50 (Link to this contribution) There has been a lot of talk, including by the right hon. Gentleman, about how the House business co...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c50-1 (Link to this contribution) I will make progress, if the hon. Lady does not mind, because a lot of people want to speak. I turn...
Fiona Mactaggart | 506 c50 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Bob Spink | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) Today we have a chance to move our agenda on from the expenses scandal to making the House work more...
Tony Wright | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) I am working to a very tight timetable, but how can I not give way to a former Chief Whip?
Tony Wright | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) Before I say something about the product of the Reform of the House of Commons Committee's labours, ...
Bob Spink | 506 c52 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his report, which I warmly welcome. Does he acknowledge that the prop...
Tony Wright | 506 c51-2 (Link to this contribution) I am genuinely puzzled by what my right hon. Friend is saying, not least because she did not put her...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c51 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend knows, I want reform but I do not agree with some of his proposals. Does he agree ...
Fiona Mactaggart | 506 c65 (Link to this contribution) I accept that not all are, but generally those who have spoken or intervened have been enthusiasts. ...
Martin Salter | 506 c66 (Link to this contribution) I assure you, Mr. Speaker, that this was not scripted, but you will certainly be aware of the need f...
Martin Salter | 506 c65 (Link to this contribution) It is unfortunate that the right hon. Gentleman came late into the debate, because we had an exchang...
Greg Knight | 506 c65 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has told the House that the reform proposals have the support of the Prime Minist...
Fiona Mactaggart | 506 c65 (Link to this contribution) As a Member who stood unsuccessfully for election to the Wright Committee, I welcome the work of my ...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c64 (Link to this contribution) That is not true—and I thought it was a secret ballot.
David Heath | 506 c62-3 (Link to this contribution) You might need to consider a time limit on interventions in this debate, Mr. Speaker. However, of co...
Baroness Harman | 506 c63 (Link to this contribution) If Members are minded not to object to a House business committee for Back-Bench business but their ...
Evan Harris | 506 c62 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for City of York (Hugh Bayley) made a very important point: even if we have enough t...
David Heath | 506 c61 (Link to this contribution) That completely ignores a couple of facts. One fact is that Report stage provides the opportunity fo...
David Heath | 506 c62 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want a rational use of our time; I do not want to misuse or abuse it. I w...
David Heath | 506 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) May I say what a pleasure it is to follow the hon. Member for Cannock Chase (Dr. Wright). I thank hi...
Tony Wright | 506 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the hon. Gentleman's contribution to our work, which was, as ever, energetic and im...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c60-1 (Link to this contribution) I really am a bit surprised by what the hon. Gentleman is saying. I want there to be effective scrut...
Evan Harris | 506 c58 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the hon. Gentleman's chairmanship and to his contribution today. I cast no aspersio...
Alan Williams | 506 c57 (Link to this contribution) Whatever 45 years may say about my consistency, they are hardly complimentary about my effectiveness...
Tony Wright | 506 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) It has been a great joy to work with my right hon. Friend over the years; he knows full well how eff...
Tony Wright | 506 c57 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a fascinating point which would, if we let it, lead to a much longer argume...
Tony Wright | 506 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) I would go a little further and say that my right hon. Friend is seeking to achieve what the late, g...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 506 c56 (Link to this contribution) Might my hon. Friend also underscore the movement that we have seen this afternoon from the current ...
Tony Wright | 506 c56 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that I decided to give way to the hon. Gentleman and genuinely pleased to have an end...
Richard Taylor | 506 c56 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman very much. May I draw his and other hon. Members' attention to recommenda...
Natascha Engel | 506 c72-3 (Link to this contribution) One of the other issues tangentially raised by that point is the fact that whipped or unwhipped —the...
Evan Harris | 506 c73 (Link to this contribution) I do not think the hon. Lady is right to describe an elected Back-Bench business committee as an eli...
Parmjit Dhanda | 506 c73 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is certainly adding something to the debate, and I agree that it is important to move...
Natascha Engel | 506 c73 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree. That brings me back to my main point and my intervention on my hon. Friend the M...
Jo Swinson | 506 c73-4 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Lady and share her frustration that the reform process has not been ambitious ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c74 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. If this was the beginning and not the end of a process, I might feel differently. These ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c72 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely disagree with that. Simply because somebody has support does not make them an effective...
Lord Mann | 506 c72 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that there is a level of naiveté in this debate if we believe that a Gover...
Martin Salter | 506 c72 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend refreshes her memory of the report, she will see that we built into the recommenda...
Martin Salter | 506 c71 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend explain to me and to the House why electing the Chairs of Select Committees, whi...
Natascha Engel | 506 c71 (Link to this contribution) I am saying that it could damage that process.
Chris Mullin | 506 c71 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend circulated to members of the Committee her objections to what is proposed, and I resp...
Natascha Engel | 506 c71 (Link to this contribution) I will deal briefly with those reforms, but unfortunately we have a 12-minute time limit, and I want...
Natascha Engel | 506 c72 (Link to this contribution) I do not know. If we duplicated that process in the election of Select Committee Chairs, we could ha...
Natascha Engel | 506 c72 (Link to this contribution) The reason why I think it could damage the process is that the only time we have had an election by ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c70-1 (Link to this contribution) I welcome interventions from any hon. Member, and as many as possible, to make up for the fact that ...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c69 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend may think that, but had he been party to some of the conversations, he would not have...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c69 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady has made her point yet again and what she says has some substance, but as someon...
Graham Allen | 506 c69 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that, if Committees are worth while, Members are queuing up, knocking...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) I believe that political parties have a philosophy, within which there could be a very broad church....
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c69 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman allows me to return to the issue of the Procedure Committee and the House Committ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c68 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c68 (Link to this contribution) I will give way first to the right hon. Member for North-West Durham (Hilary Armstrong).
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c67-8 (Link to this contribution) May I develop my argument a bit further, and then I will certainly give way? Let me tell the House ...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c67 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that I have ever said this before, and I never thought that I would say it, but it is...
Martin Salter | 506 c66-7 (Link to this contribution) I will not because I have been very generous in giving way, and I think that we have probably heard ...
Baroness Harman | 506 c42 (Link to this contribution) I can give the hon. Gentleman an assurance on that. I was planning to deal with it later, so I shall...
David Heath | 506 c41 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the right hon. and learned Lady can help us on this point. She will know that the m...
Baroness Harman | 506 c43 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that things need to be unclear. I have said that I will make sure that the issue come...
Evan Harris | 506 c43 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to hear that the Minister will support the amendment—or words to the same effect—of wh...
Baroness Harman | 506 c41 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it is in the interest of the House for us to be voting until 5 o'clock in the mo...
Baroness Harman | 506 c41 (Link to this contribution) If the right hon. Gentleman wants to outline in his speech the recommendation that he feels should b...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c41 (Link to this contribution) What about the resolutions that the right hon. and learned Lady has not tabled today to implement so...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c44 (Link to this contribution) I respond to that challenge from the Leader of the House by saying that they do not come much more c...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c44 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman recognise that there are some problems with the Committee? It was elec...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c44-5 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I fundamentally disagree. The best way to get a representative sample on a Committe...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c46 (Link to this contribution) I shall shelter behind Mr. Speaker's ruling at the beginning of the debate. The proposals before us...
William Cash | 506 c46 (Link to this contribution) Following his comprehensive indictment of the Government's attitude, does my right hon. Friend agree...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c45-6 (Link to this contribution) In all the previous debates in which I have taken part, we have had a debate and then we have voted ...
Natascha Engel | 506 c45 (Link to this contribution) Would the right hon. Gentleman like to see votes today or on 4 March? He objects to the fact that a ...
Bob Spink | 506 c47 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c47 (Link to this contribution) I also drew a distinction between the propositions that the Government support, which are the motion...
Lord Field of Birkenhead | 506 c46 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the right hon. Gentleman will spend some time on that issue, because my right hon. and l...
Nicholas Winterton | 506 c47 (Link to this contribution) On the little ticket items, does my right hon. Friend not accept that, unfortunately, there is no mo...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c47-8 (Link to this contribution) What a first-class intervention from my hon. Friend! His point is covered in an amendment, which he ...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c48 (Link to this contribution) I do not have bloody hands. I have never believed in doing things in any way other than straightforw...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c48 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady devalues the judgments of those who share the Labour Benches with her. The notio...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c48 (Link to this contribution) Such as the hon. Member for Reading, West.
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c48-9 (Link to this contribution) I reject unequivocally any implication of dissent within the shadow Cabinet. The Chief Whip and I ar...
Jeremy Corbyn | 506 c49 (Link to this contribution) May I take the right hon. Gentleman back slightly to his point about reports and statements from Sel...
Baroness Harman | 506 c37 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of the report from the House of Commons Ref...
Lord Cormack | 506 c37 (Link to this contribution) Will the Leader of the House spell out in a little more detail how she envisages our business on nex...
Baroness Harman | 506 c37 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will allow me, I can get on with explaining how I want to take this business f...
William Cash | 506 c37 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. I gave you advance notice of a matter relating to Standing Order N...
Baroness Harman | 506 c38 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I was saying, this is House business, not Government business, and when ...
Baroness Harman | 506 c38 (Link to this contribution) I think it might be helpful if I get on with delivering my short speech, because, at the end of the ...
Martin Salter | 506 c64-5 (Link to this contribution) When anyone on the Labour Benches did not vote for me or for any other candidate, I hope that they d...
Bernard Jenkin | 506 c63-4 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. To clarify, lest the House might be proceeding in some ignorance a...
Natascha Engel | 506 c73 (Link to this contribution) I completely disagree. Members will vote for people they know, not for people they do not know, and ...
Baroness Harman | 506 c39-40 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the proposals from the Committee, which I am supporting, are the slippery slope ...
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 506 c39 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt, because I know that my right hon. and learned Friend wishes to be brief in ...
Baroness Harman | 506 c38-9 (Link to this contribution) This is not going to be a whipped vote; it will be a free vote. If people want to accept advice from...
Lord Beith | 506 c38 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Leader of the House, as what I want to say relates precisely to the point ...
Baroness Harman | 506 c38 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the right hon. Gentleman, but I will not give way to any other Member.
Baroness Harman | 506 c40-1 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to give way to the hon. Gentleman. He really does not need to ask me any questions, b...
Baroness Harman | 506 c40 (Link to this contribution) No, I am not going to give way. Improvements have been made to the way in which the House works, fo...
Speaker | 506 c127 (Link to this contribution) We now come to the 16 specific motions. In accordance with decisions of my predecessors, I regard am...
Lord Young of Cookham | 506 c47 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman will excuse me if I move on. The right hon. and learned Lady asked m...
Martin Salter | 506 c48 (Link to this contribution) I thank the shadow Leader of the House for reminding me of one of my better quotes. Let me point out...
Lord Beith | 506 c38 (Link to this contribution) Will the Leader of the House give way?
Chris Mullin | 506 c50 (Link to this contribution) Where do the Opposition stand on allowing the House, subject to the Prime Minister's approval, to el...
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