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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Wednesday, 1 December 2010, in the House of Lords.

Public Bodies Bill [HL]

Public Bodies Bill (HL). Lords committee stage third day. Schedule 1 : Power to Abolish: Bodies and Offices, under consideration.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
722 c1506-39, 1548-68 
Session
2010-12
Department
Cabinet Office
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Rosser | 722 c1537 (Link to this contribution) 22: Schedule 1, page 16, line 13, leave out ““Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Arbitration Tribu...
Lord Fowler | 722 c1566 (Link to this contribution) What does the Minister base that on?
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Lord Rosser | 722 c1539 (Link to this contribution) I was not entirely clear about what the Minister said. He did say that it was moribund, so do I take...
Lord Rosser | 722 c1537-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Arbitration Tribunal organises compensation in co...
Viscount Eccles | 722 c1538 (Link to this contribution) We seem to concentrate only on whether something saves money, but the public are not interested only...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1538-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am pleased to move on to this series of amendments, and I will first turn to the Aircraf...
Lord Rosser | 722 c1539 (Link to this contribution) I am not entirely sure whether the Minister was also replying to Amendment 24 as well as Amendment 2...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1539 (Link to this contribution) I did speak to Amendment 24 because my speaking notes represented a grouping which is not current, a...
Baroness Quin | 722 c1535 (Link to this contribution) If I could follow up on my noble friend’s point, I thought that the Government had said that they wo...
Lord Henley | 722 c1535 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I made clear, I do not think that it is necessary in this case to carry out an impact a...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1535-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank everybody who has taken part in an excellent and sensibly tempered debate with a h...
Baroness Quin | 722 c1529 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support strongly the amendment and pay tribute to the way in which the noble Lord,...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 722 c1529 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Baroness agree that the debate has been forceful in indicating that consultation wou...
Duke of Montrose | 722 c1528 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I might intervene again. Having listened to the various speeches around the House and partic...
Viscount Eccles | 722 c1528-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I reinforce the argument made by my noble friend. I drove a tractor some time ago—1943, I ...
Lord Whitty | 722 c1534 (Link to this contribution) Apologies if the Minister was moving on to this point, but do the Government have an impact assessme...
Lord Henley | 722 c1534-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it is necessary for that work to have been done. As I said, we believe that with...
Baroness Quin | 722 c1530-3 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord makes an important point. Obviously, how we proceed is up to the author and introduce...
Lord Henley | 722 c1533-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will start, as is proper, by offering an apology to the noble Baroness, Lady Quin, for p...
Lord Morris of Handsworth | 722 c1526-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too support the amendment. I apologise for not being here at the very start of the debat...
Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 722 c1527-8 (Link to this contribution) I declare an interest as the owner of a small farm in the north of Scotland, the circumstances of wh...
Lord Warner | 722 c1558 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was fascinated to hear that elegant explanation of how the Government will deal with the...
Lord Warner | 722 c1556 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister looks back to the period between 2004 and 2007 or 2008, he will see that the previou...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1557 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to use the opportunity of this debate to reassure the noble Lord about the process that ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 722 c1557 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to delay the noble Lord once more. However, in that information, if we are to take real d...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1557-8 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, I reassure the noble Baroness that any instrument produced under the Bill to enact any of th...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 722 c1555-6 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may come in first and respond to the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, before he responds to my nob...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1556 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for that contribution to our discussion on this amendment. The amendment in t...
Lord Warner | 722 c1556 (Link to this contribution) The Government actually produced an impact assessment and that impact assessment is totally silent o...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1556 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, it is. The process that is built into the Bill allows for impact assessments to be presented...
Lord Warner | 722 c1555 (Link to this contribution) Whether it is a custom or a convention makes very little difference to the people working in these o...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 722 c1555 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that that is right. I remind the noble Lord that the Companion recalls the vote ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1555 (Link to this contribution) We had this debate the other evening. If the noble Lord remembers, I corrected what I said from ““co...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 722 c1552-4 (Link to this contribution) This has been a very interesting short debate. I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Warner for allo...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1554-5 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister replies, may I ask the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, a question? Earlier in his speech,...
Viscount Eccles | 722 c1551-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not the good fortune to have been in this House for very long. I have had two sessi...
Lord Warner | 722 c1552 (Link to this contribution) The noble Viscount may wish to interpret this as a Second Reading speech, but I thought that I was a...
Lord Warner | 722 c1548 (Link to this contribution) 23: Schedule 1, page 16, line 13, at end insert— ““Audit Commission.””
Lord Warner | 722 c1548-51 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my amendment would add the Audit Commission to Schedule 1. I move it not because I wish to...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1539 (Link to this contribution) I confirm that is the case. It does not cost anything, there is no standing cost and it does not hav...
Lord Rosser | 722 c1539 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that clear response and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 2...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 722 c1525-6 (Link to this contribution) I, too, wish to support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and the remarks made by...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1513 (Link to this contribution) 20: Schedule 1, page 16, line 11, leave out ““Agricultural Wages Board for England and Wales.””
Lord Clark of Windermere | 722 c1521-3 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and I do so in the same tone and with the s...
Earl of Caithness | 722 c1521 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, in so far as the Agricultural Wages Board has do...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 722 c1525 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a farmer and as an employer of staff in the West Country—not the ...
Lord Corbett of Castle Vale | 722 c1523-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for not being here at the start of the debate on these amendments, to which my...
Baroness Prosser | 722 c1516-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. I also declare an int...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1513-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a much more substantive and important amendment—not that the last one was not impo...
Lord Whitty | 722 c1517-21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, in his argument and agree with pretty much everyth...
Duke of Montrose | 722 c1517 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may I add a few words as an agricultural employer with a couple of agricultural workers? I...
Lord Henley | 722 c1511-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving this amendment, my noble friend Lord Greaves said that this was his first amendm...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1513 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to everybody for the constructive and consensual way in which the amendment ...
Baroness Quin | 722 c1509-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, in having tabled this amendment, which allowed thi...
Earl of Caithness | 722 c1509 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Clark of Windermere, I remember the 1976 Bill coming through Par...
Lord Whitty | 722 c1508-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the general thrust of the approach by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. I am cert...
Lord Newton of Braintree | 722 c1508 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rather rashly intervene to express my general support for the thrust of the amendment mo...
Lord Clark of Windermere | 722 c1507-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I follow in the tone of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, who moved this amendment in a very m...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1506-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we resume our rapid canter through the Committee stage of the Bill. Amendment 19 refers to...
Lord Greaves | 722 c1506 (Link to this contribution) 19: Schedule 1, page 16, line 10, leave out ““Agricultural dwelling-house advisory committees.””
Lord Fowler | 722 c1566-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the Minister said, it is a disappointing reply. Frankly, I think that we are going back...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 722 c1564-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened to the contributions of the noble Lord, Lord Fowler, with some interest. I...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1565-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend, who I hold in high regard, for moving this amendment. However, I ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c1566 (Link to this contribution) As I have said previously in my response, the public said in the consultation that they did not want...
Lord Maxton | 722 c1559 (Link to this contribution) I have a lot of sympathy with the amendment but if I were a Clerk in the other place I do not think ...
Lord Fowler | 722 c1559-61 (Link to this contribution) I knew that the noble Lord would say something entirely unhelpful from past experience. I will come ...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 722 c1561-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a member of your Lordships’ Select Committee on Communications an...
Lord Maxton | 722 c1563-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given that I waited 40 minutes for a bus last night in the cold, I do not intend to detain...
Lord Fowler | 722 c1558 (Link to this contribution) 23A: Schedule 1, page 16, line 13, at end insert— ““BBC Trust.””
Lord Fowler | 722 c1558-9 (Link to this contribution) I think that I can bring the Committee into calmer waters by proposing something that the government...
Subjects
Devolved matters Audit Agriculture Broadcasting Costs Closures Audit Commission Legislation Horticulture Pay Minimum wage Public sector Public bodies Redundancy Non-departmental public bodies Migrant workers Wales Tenants Rented housing Tenants' rights Agricultural Wages Board Tied housing BBC Trust
Legislation
Public Bodies Bill (HL) 2010-12
Rent (Agriculture) Act 1976
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