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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Monday, 28 February 2011, in the House of Lords.

National Insurance Contributions Bill

National Insurance Contributions Bill. Lords committee stage. Clause 1 to 15 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
725 c77-108GC 
Session
2010-12
Department
Treasury
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Sassoon | 725 c104-5GC (Link to this contribution) It is a high bar to be able to give the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Oldham, all the reassurances that...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c87GC (Link to this contribution) Again, I am grateful to the Minister for his response. I would like to reflect a little on what he s...
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Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c94-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, from the perspective of opposition I always rather approve of Bills starting in our House,...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 725 c97GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Brougham and Vaux, told me that we were going to have a comfort break. Is this ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c97GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister will be somewhat shocked by the fact that I am being constructive at this juncture. We ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c97GC (Link to this contribution) 12: Clause 6, page 3, line 43, leave out ““10”” and insert ““5””
Lord Newby | 725 c95GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have a factual question to ask the Minister on this. During my life, I have been involve...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c96-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. I was looking at Hansard and I see that the framework in which I used...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c95-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in answer to my noble friend Lord Newby’s point, my understanding is that there is indeed ...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c98-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as ever, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Newby for pointing out some of the logic of...
Lord Newby | 725 c97-8GC (Link to this contribution) It is a pity that Amendment 14 is not grouped with these two amendments as they clearly fall togethe...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c99GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will certainly withdraw the amendment, although I am not sure that I entirely accept the...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c104GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have no doubt that Amendment 16 may cause a slight flurry in the dovecotes. I hope that ...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c103GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I echo my noble friend Lady Kramer’s view of the importance of job sharing. I, too, could ...
Baroness Kramer | 725 c102-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to speak particularly to this amendment because it is, in a sense, a real request. ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c101-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, to a certain extent the Minister has already pre-empted this and given us a response which...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c101GC (Link to this contribution) 15: Clause 6, page 3, line 45, at end insert— ““( ) A new business shall be able to treat two or mor...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c101GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that concerted response and, of course, I withdraw the a...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c100-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, apprenticeships are certainly important to this Government. Since the noble Lord, Lord Dav...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c99-100GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, apprenticeships are a good thing. I know that I will get nods from all sides of the Commit...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c99GC (Link to this contribution) 14: Clause 6, page 3, line 45, at end insert— ““( ) A new business which offers apprenticeship oppor...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c104GC (Link to this contribution) 16: Clause 8, page 5, line 32, at end insert— ““( ) HMRC will ensure that all staff dedicated to the...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c103-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will certainly withdraw the amendment in due course. I am grateful to both noble Lords w...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c105GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord. I feel somewhat encouraged. I did not have the slightest doubt that...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c105-6GC (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment 17, I shall speak also to Amendment 18. They clearly have the same thinking behi...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c105GC (Link to this contribution) 17: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause— ““Consideration of extension or modification o...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c106-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we certainly agree that generally tax policy-making and the effects of tax measures should...
Lord Newby | 725 c106GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the principles behind these amendments. This is a very specific scheme and it sh...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c108GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister; half a loaf is better than none. The extent to which he defined how f...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c82GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. Of course we will withdraw the amendment; as he knows,...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c82GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not responding earlier, but I see that the noble Lord has the Government Actuary’s r...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c79-80GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course, I am grateful to the Minister for his general response. He referred to choppy w...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c80GC (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 3, page 2, line 5, leave out ““““50”””” and insert ““““75””””
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c80-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 2. Amendment 1 seeks to probe why 50 per cent, rather than...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c81-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that I did not give too much encouragement with my remarks on Clause 1 to indicate ...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 725 c77GC (Link to this contribution) Good afternoon, my Lords. If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting in Committee, w...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c77-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, presumably the Minister hopes that the Committee stage of this Bill will not be as protrac...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c78-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Oldham, for confirming that the Committee ...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 725 c87GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before calling Amendment 4, if Amendment 4 is agreed to I cannot call Amendment 5 due to p...
Baroness Kramer | 725 c85GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise if my newness to the institution shows in my bobbing up at the wrong time. I w...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c85-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lord, those two interventions go to the heart of why it is necessary to strike a difficult balanc...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c88GC (Link to this contribution) 4: Clause 4, page 2, line 24, leave out ““Greater London,””
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c82-3GC (Link to this contribution) I had not reached that appendix, so I thank the Minister for those figures. I accept that they are v...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c84GC (Link to this contribution) 3: Clause 4, page 2, line 13, after ““started”” insert ““and throughout the period when the appropri...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c84-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 3 and to speak to Amendments 8 and 9. The purpose of this group of...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c83GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, clearly, if there was more in the fund, a greater part of NHS expenditure could come via t...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c83GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister and beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 1 withdrawn. Amen...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c92-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in relation to what we are trying to achieve through the holiday scheme, it is important t...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c93-4GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response. We propose to withdraw the amendment. The purpose of framing ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 725 c94GC (Link to this contribution) 11: Clause 5, page 3, line 35, at end insert— ““( ) a non-trading charity””
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c88-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to the other amendments in this group. As we discussed at Second Readin...
Baroness Kramer | 725 c89-90GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak because I grew up and have spent much of my political life in Greater Lond...
Lord Sassoon | 725 c90-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend Lady Kramer for answering the main thrust of the que...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c91GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response and the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, for her contribution. I ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c91GC (Link to this contribution) 10: Clause 5, page 3, line 32, leave out paragraphs (b) and (c)
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c91-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 10 focuses on the inclusion within the term ““business”” of ““property business”...
Subjects
Charities Apprentices Greater London Increases National insurance NHS National Insurance Fund National insurance contributions Staff Part-time employment New businesses Tax rates and bands South East
Legislation
National Insurance Contributions Bill 2010-12
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