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Backbench debate on Thursday, 10 March 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Richard Ottaway. The answering member was Jeremy Browne.


Inter-Parliamentary Scrutiny (EU Foreign, Defence and Security Policy)

Twenty-second backbench debate (part three). Closure motion. Negatived on division (118 to 4). Main question agreed to.


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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
524 c1145-67 
Session
2010-12
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Procedure
Closure motions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Denis MacShane | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) This really is a pretty shoddy second-rate shambles. We are going to betray the Norwegians, our clos...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is quite right. There is also the question of Albania, which is to be resolved but wh...
Denis MacShane | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to finish my remarks, but I shall give way one last time.
Denis MacShane | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I accept that fully and it is true of all inter-parliamentary oversight committees. We are, willy-ni...
Denis MacShane | 524 c1151-2 (Link to this contribution) There we are. I never get to eat as many Belgian chocolates as I would wish, and the amount is going...
Robert Walter | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his kind words. This relates to the point about responding to a...
Denis MacShane | 524 c1150-1 (Link to this contribution) France has only just rejoined NATO. It does not have quite the same weight in NATO councils as ourse...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1151 (Link to this contribution) The situation is even worse than the right hon. Gentleman describes, because the Belgian presidency ...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) The European Parliament is free to pass all the motions it likes. The truth of the matter is that th...
Mike Gapes | 524 c1147-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is aware that these discussions have gone on for quite a long time. In fact, they...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1149 (Link to this contribution) Is not the problem with the approach being taken by my hon. Friend and his Committee that it exclude...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1149 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made a good point. The candidate countries will, of course, be invited to attend ...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend has missed the point. We are not talking only about candidate countries;...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes his point eloquently. It is an important subject. Perhaps 10 years ago, thi...
Andrew Murrison | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) In support of the point made by the hon. Member for Ilford South (Mike Gapes), I note that Guido Wes...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes his point well and I rather share the sentiments behind it. For the benefit of ...
Wayne David | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman moves on from consideration of the European Parliament I must say that I t...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1145-6 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House pays tribute to the work of the European Security and Defence Assembl...
James Clappison | 524 c1146 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an important point. Does he agree that, like it or not, there is going to b...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1146-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I shall allude obliquely to the point that he has made. While he...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1146 (Link to this contribution) I have been looking at the formal minutes of 12 January of the decisions to which my hon. Friend has...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1146 (Link to this contribution) I just took the view that a free vote was not appropriate. It was a simple subjective judgment; it w...
Robert Walter | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way; I might be able to help him. Early in 2009, the Euro...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I missed the beginning of my hon. Friend's intervention. Will he clarify who made th...
Andrew Murrison | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) It is all very well having scrutiny, but if it does not lead to action, it is fairly pointless. Will...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I think I follow my hon. Friend's point. My point is that unless we get our act together so that Par...
Speaker | 524 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I should inform the House that the amendment in the name of the hon. Member for North Dorset (Mr Wal...
Jeremy Browne | 524 c1163-4 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to respond to today's important debate...
Wayne David | 524 c1161-3 (Link to this contribution) I begin on a lighter note. Earlier today I was talking to my good friend and colleague, my hon. Frie...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1165-6 (Link to this contribution) I have served as a member of the WEU Parliamentary Assembly for several years, and I was recently gi...
Priti Patel | 524 c1165 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a short contribution to the debate. As a new Member of Parliament, I almost feel like...
Jeremy Browne | 524 c1164-5 (Link to this contribution) We wish to ensure that there is a suitable body that can scrutinise co-operation between individual ...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1164 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that the proposals from the Belgian presidency which are to be put to the S...
Robert Walter | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for making those points. My point was that the €2.3 million is the cos...
Robert Walter | 524 c1155-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her intervention, although I think it goes a little beyond the sc...
Baroness Hoey | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) It was interesting to hear that list of terminology. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the only way...
Robert Walter | 524 c1157 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I do not want to become too legalistic, but I will refer to a nu...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1156-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Does he accept that what is proposed is inconsistent with a...
Robert Walter | 524 c1158 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, because the alternative, which is before us today, is a body tha...
James Clappison | 524 c1157-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made some very powerful points throughout his speech, and the last two have been ...
Christopher Chope | 524 c1160 (Link to this contribution) We do not need to come to a view today in adopting the Committee's report. At the beginning of April...
Mike Gapes | 524 c1158-60 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with the hon. Member for North Dorset (Mr Walter), who obviously feels passiona...
Mike Gapes | 524 c1160-1 (Link to this contribution) I would rather we had a clear position to guide our representatives when they take part in those neg...
Robert Walter | 524 c1154 (Link to this contribution) I can tell my hon. Friend that the entire global cost of the WEU organisation—the body located in Br...
Robert Walter | 524 c1154 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. The WEU's history goes back to 1948 and the Brussels treaty. The treaty was amended in 1954...
Robert Walter | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) It is an absolute quote and I am not sure that I agree with it. Although it is factually correct, I ...
Jeremy Browne | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) May I inform the House about the costs as I understand them? Annual membership of the Western Europe...
James Clappison | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with great interest to the right hon. Gentleman. I agree with his analysis that more ...
Denis MacShane | 524 c1153 (Link to this contribution) Until such time as we elect a Government—coalition or majority—who decide to withdraw from the Europ...
Robert Walter | 524 c1153 (Link to this contribution) May I start by thanking my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon South (Richard Ottaway) and the Select...
James Clappison | 524 c1153 (Link to this contribution) Cost is a very important factor and we all need to consider carefully the costs of what we do. Has m...
Richard Ottaway | 524 c1148-9 (Link to this contribution) It was felt that the European Parliament has some expertise in this area, but the hon. Gentleman lea...
Robert Walter | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) It was made in a motion to the European Parliament, which was then passed.
Subjects
European Union EU common foreign and security policy Parliamentary scrutiny Foreign Affairs Committee European Scrutiny Committee Western European Union Treaty of Lisbon
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