Backbench debate on Thursday, 10 March 2011, in the House of Commons, led by Richard Ottaway. The answering member was Jeremy Browne.
Inter-Parliamentary Scrutiny (EU Foreign, Defence and Security Policy)
Twenty-second backbench debate (part three). Closure motion. Negatived on division (118 to 4). Main question agreed to.
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- Parliamentary proceeding
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- 524 c1145-67
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- 2010-12
- Department
- Foreign and Commonwealth Office
- Procedure
- Closure motions
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- House of Commons chamber
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- Proceeding contributions
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) This really is a pretty shoddy second-rate shambles. We are going to betray the Norwegians, our clos...
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Mike Gapes | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) Is France not a major country?
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is quite right. There is also the question of Albania, which is to be resolved but wh...
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to finish my remarks, but I shall give way one last time.
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I accept that fully and it is true of all inter-parliamentary oversight committees. We are, willy-ni...
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1151-2 (Link to this contribution) There we are. I never get to eat as many Belgian chocolates as I would wish, and the amount is going...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his kind words. This relates to the point about responding to a...
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1150-1 (Link to this contribution) France has only just rejoined NATO. It does not have quite the same weight in NATO councils as ourse...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1151 (Link to this contribution) The situation is even worse than the right hon. Gentleman describes, because the Belgian presidency ...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) The European Parliament is free to pass all the motions it likes. The truth of the matter is that th...
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Mike Gapes | 524 c1147-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is aware that these discussions have gone on for quite a long time. In fact, they...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1149 (Link to this contribution) Is not the problem with the approach being taken by my hon. Friend and his Committee that it exclude...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1149 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made a good point. The candidate countries will, of course, be invited to attend ...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1150 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend has missed the point. We are not talking only about candidate countries;...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes his point eloquently. It is an important subject. Perhaps 10 years ago, thi...
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Andrew Murrison | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) In support of the point made by the hon. Member for Ilford South (Mike Gapes), I note that Guido Wes...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes his point well and I rather share the sentiments behind it. For the benefit of ...
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Wayne David | 524 c1148 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman moves on from consideration of the European Parliament I must say that I t...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1145-6 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House pays tribute to the work of the European Security and Defence Assembl...
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James Clappison | 524 c1146 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an important point. Does he agree that, like it or not, there is going to b...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1146-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I shall allude obliquely to the point that he has made. While he...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1146 (Link to this contribution) I have been looking at the formal minutes of 12 January of the decisions to which my hon. Friend has...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1146 (Link to this contribution) I just took the view that a free vote was not appropriate. It was a simple subjective judgment; it w...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way; I might be able to help him. Early in 2009, the Euro...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I missed the beginning of my hon. Friend's intervention. Will he clarify who made th...
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Andrew Murrison | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) It is all very well having scrutiny, but if it does not lead to action, it is fairly pointless. Will...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) I think I follow my hon. Friend's point. My point is that unless we get our act together so that Par...
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Speaker | 524 c1145 (Link to this contribution) I should inform the House that the amendment in the name of the hon. Member for North Dorset (Mr Wal...
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Jeremy Browne | 524 c1163-4 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to respond to today's important debate...
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Wayne David | 524 c1161-3 (Link to this contribution) I begin on a lighter note. Earlier today I was talking to my good friend and colleague, my hon. Frie...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1165-6 (Link to this contribution) I have served as a member of the WEU Parliamentary Assembly for several years, and I was recently gi...
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Priti Patel | 524 c1165 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a short contribution to the debate. As a new Member of Parliament, I almost feel like...
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Jeremy Browne | 524 c1164-5 (Link to this contribution) We wish to ensure that there is a suitable body that can scrutinise co-operation between individual ...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1164 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that the proposals from the Belgian presidency which are to be put to the S...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for making those points. My point was that the €2.3 million is the cos...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1155-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her intervention, although I think it goes a little beyond the sc...
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Baroness Hoey | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) It was interesting to hear that list of terminology. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the only way...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1157 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I do not want to become too legalistic, but I will refer to a nu...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1156-7 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Does he accept that what is proposed is inconsistent with a...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1158 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, because the alternative, which is before us today, is a body tha...
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James Clappison | 524 c1157-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made some very powerful points throughout his speech, and the last two have been ...
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Christopher Chope | 524 c1160 (Link to this contribution) We do not need to come to a view today in adopting the Committee's report. At the beginning of April...
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Mike Gapes | 524 c1158-60 (Link to this contribution) I have some sympathy with the hon. Member for North Dorset (Mr Walter), who obviously feels passiona...
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Mike Gapes | 524 c1160-1 (Link to this contribution) I would rather we had a clear position to guide our representatives when they take part in those neg...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1154 (Link to this contribution) I can tell my hon. Friend that the entire global cost of the WEU organisation—the body located in Br...
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1154 (Link to this contribution) Not even a banker's bonus!
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Robert Walter | 524 c1154 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. The WEU's history goes back to 1948 and the Brussels treaty. The treaty was amended in 1954...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) That is a quote.
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Robert Walter | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) It is an absolute quote and I am not sure that I agree with it. Although it is factually correct, I ...
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Jeremy Browne | 524 c1155 (Link to this contribution) May I inform the House about the costs as I understand them? Annual membership of the Western Europe...
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James Clappison | 524 c1152 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with great interest to the right hon. Gentleman. I agree with his analysis that more ...
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Denis MacShane | 524 c1153 (Link to this contribution) Until such time as we elect a Government—coalition or majority—who decide to withdraw from the Europ...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1153 (Link to this contribution) May I start by thanking my hon. Friend the Member for Croydon South (Richard Ottaway) and the Select...
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James Clappison | 524 c1153 (Link to this contribution) Cost is a very important factor and we all need to consider carefully the costs of what we do. Has m...
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Richard Ottaway | 524 c1148-9 (Link to this contribution) It was felt that the European Parliament has some expertise in this area, but the hon. Gentleman lea...
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Robert Walter | 524 c1147 (Link to this contribution) It was made in a motion to the European Parliament, which was then passed.
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- European Union EU common foreign and security policy Parliamentary scrutiny Foreign Affairs Committee European Scrutiny Committee Western European Union Treaty of Lisbon
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