Parliamentary Search

Debate on bill on Wednesday, 4 May 2011, in the House of Lords.

Postal Services Bill

Postal Services Bill. Lords report stage first day. New clauses debated.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
727 c462-522 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Legislative stage
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Proceeding contributions
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 727 c505 (Link to this contribution) Lord Jenkin of Roding: My Lords, I listened to the noble Lord with some interest, but I should have ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 727 c556 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the link-up with the Post Office is one of the most exciting innovations for the credit un...
Show all contributions (108)
Earl Attlee | 727 c557-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since he arrived in your Lordships’ House the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, has spoken passion...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 727 c558 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Earl for his response; he has provided some reassurance. I shall return ...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c558 (Link to this contribution) 50: Clause 11, page 6, line 29, at end insert— ““( ) In subsection (2)(b) the reference to postal se...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c558 (Link to this contribution) 53: Clause 11, page 7, line 5, at end insert— ““( ) A Post Office company’s duties under this sectio...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c558 (Link to this contribution) 54: After Clause 11, insert the following new Clause— ““Annual report on postal museum collection an...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 727 c559 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful for being guided on the procedures of the House and grateful to my nobl...
Baroness Drake | 727 c559 (Link to this contribution) 56: Clause 17, page 10, line 16, at end insert— ““( ) Before making an order under subsection (1)(c)...
Lord De Mauley | 727 c561-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Drake, for giving us another opportunity to discuss the v...
Baroness Drake | 727 c563-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that detailed response. I am conscious of the lateness of the hour and that...
Baroness Drake | 727 c559-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 56, I will also speak to Amendment 57. I thank the noble Lord, Lord D...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 727 c556 (Link to this contribution) 47: Clause 11, page 6, line 29, at end insert ““, and ( ) until delivered, the progress of developin...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c556 (Link to this contribution) That is all that can usefully be said at this stage, and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Ame...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c463-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the Bill reaches the statute book in its present form, in a year or so we will almost c...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 727 c465 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support my noble friend’s amendment. As he rightly says, the new clause that he ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c465-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Lea of Crondall. It provides f...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c462 (Link to this contribution) 1: Before Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Restriction on disposal of shares in a Royal ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c507 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also support Amendment 9 in the name of my noble friend Lord Kennedy. It asks that the r...
Lord Whitty | 727 c502 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate that the noble Baroness has gone some considerable way. However, from what sh...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c501-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to respond to the noble Lords, Lord Whitty, Lord Christopher and Lord Young, on my ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 727 c505 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a similar amendment to one that I tabled in Committee. I was not convinced by the ...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 727 c504 (Link to this contribution) 9: Clause 2, page 2, line 5, at end insert ““, and ( ) how the name ““Royal Mail”” will be protected...
Lord Whitty | 727 c498-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for both tabling the amendment in her name—particularl...
Lord Whitty | 727 c497-8 (Link to this contribution) 7: Clause 2, line 6, after ““company”” insert ““in relation to— ““(i) the minimum contract length fo...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c500-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we welcome the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, and believe that it is ...
Lord Christopher | 727 c499-500 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to move Amendment 8. I did not move Amendment 13 because, frankly, I was confused b...
Lord Razzall | 727 c514 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not going to intervene, but because the noble Lord, Lord Low of Dalston, raised the ...
Lord Low of Dalston | 727 c514 (Link to this contribution) If it is truth that we are concerned with, as a serious House concerned about its reputation, it is ...
Lord Empey | 727 c513 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to speak briefly. I am sure that the Minister in her response will argue tha...
Lord Whitty | 727 c513-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Rogan and Lord Laird. The Mi...
Lord Low of Dalston | 727 c511-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the House for missing my cue at the beginning of this group but I should li...
Lord Rogan | 727 c510-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to move Amendment 15 standing in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Laird. Th...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 727 c509 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate. I also thank the Minister for her r...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c509 (Link to this contribution) I will get a note and come back to that. I will continue with my point for the moment. Amendment 55,...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 727 c509 (Link to this contribution) The following line is not totally transparent: "““Before preparing the report, the company must cons...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c507-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will respond to the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, and then move on to Amend...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c481-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I get on to this amendment, one problem with quoting when you have the author of th...
Lord Razzall | 727 c466-7 (Link to this contribution) I stand by the point that I made in Committee: in the current climate, it would be extremely unlikel...
Lord Borrie | 727 c466 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for not rising quickly enough for my noble friend on the Front Bench to notice...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c468 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for her courteous reply. I am obviously very pleased to have heard the th...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c467 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 1 would restrict the number of shares that can be sold in an initial public offe...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c471-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in rising to move this amendment I cannot help reflecting that last Friday the vast majori...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c471 (Link to this contribution) 2: Before Clause 2, insert the following new Clause— ““Royal Mail companies to be publicly owned (1)...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 2 seeks to keep the Royal Mail in public ownership and reflects the position set...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 727 c477 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it was interesting to hear how the opposition Front Bench justifies the amendment. The nob...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c481 (Link to this contribution) 3: Clause 2, page 1, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) Before making a decision referred to in subsectio...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c478 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened carefully to what the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, said. I remember that occasion w...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c495 (Link to this contribution) 6: Clause 2, page 2, line 5, at end insert ““, and (c) the objective intended to be achieved by the ...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c495-7 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 6 is intended to increase transparency in relation to any future disposal of shares in Roy...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c485 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we discussed the issue of a representative of employees serving on the board of Royal Mail...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c485 (Link to this contribution) 4: Clause 2, page 2, line 1, leave out subsection (2) and insert— ““( ) A disposal of the Crown’s in...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c484 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to what the Minister said and I welcome her assurance regarding ...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c483-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendments 3 and 13 seek to place additional reporting requirements on the Secretary of St...
Earl Attlee | 727 c488-91 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments covers matters relating to the employees of Royal Mail, without w...
Lord Clarke of Hampstead | 727 c487-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendment 36 standing in my name, dealing with trade union recognition. Again, I de...
Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 727 c485-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendment 11 in the group. Like other amendments, it requires the Secr...
Lord Skelmersdale | 727 c485 (Link to this contribution) If the amendment is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 5, by reason of pre-emption.
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c549-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to the amendments to Clause 11 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Whitty. I...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c549 (Link to this contribution) I shall briefly support my noble friend Lord Whitty. He has made all the key points about the import...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c550 (Link to this contribution) However, we believe that obliging the Post Office to report against the access criteria separately f...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c547 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her contribution. It goes some way towards providing reassurances and we wi...
Lord Whitty | 727 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) 40: Clause 11, page 6, line 25, at end insert ““including reporting for the UK as a whole and separa...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c544-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as you are all very aware, post offices continue to provide a lifeline to residents in rur...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 727 c545-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one of the best things that the Government have said in the context of the Bill is that th...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c546-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 37 seeks to impose consultation requirements on companies or people that propose...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c556 (Link to this contribution) I will be only too happy to write to the noble Lord.
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c556 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for reading out what I have in front of me as well. I was asking whether ...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c555 (Link to this contribution) I understand that the National Federation of SubPostmasters said in response to recent claims by the...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c555 (Link to this contribution) I am referring to the survey conducted by an opinion research company, which was commissioned by the...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c555 (Link to this contribution) Is the noble Lord, Lord Lea, speaking about the CWU’s recent survey on the future of the Post Office...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c555 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister. However, the competitors of the Post Office may not do this, but they are not ...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c554-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendments 46 and 49, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Lea, require the Post Office to provi...
Lord Whitty | 727 c550-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness for those reassurances. Behind them is a recognition t...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c551 (Link to this contribution) 46: Clause 11, page 6, line 28, leave out ““and””
Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 727 c519-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Stevenson. I do not think that there has been any conversio...
Lord De Mauley | 727 c520-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I again say that I am grateful to noble Lords on the opposition Front Bench who agree with...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 727 c520 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should have announced that, if this amendment is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 17 d...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c536 (Link to this contribution) 19: Clause 4, page 2, line 43, after ““may”” insert ““by order””
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c521-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Razzall, for his support for the amendment, and my noble frie...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c514-6 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to interfere in what is obviously an important battle of words; perhaps the Minister will...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c516-7 (Link to this contribution) I turn first to Amendment 14. As I said earlier, Ofcom will be required to report annually to the Se...
Lord Rogan | 727 c517 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank those Members who have spoken to my amendment. I have listened to the Minister and...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c517 (Link to this contribution) 16: Clause 3, page 2, line 25, leave out from ““reduced”” to end of line 35 and insert ““from 100%, ...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c517-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments make the case for employee shares being held as a trust and for employees t...
Lord Razzall | 727 c518 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having sat through what I would describe as ““Lord Mandelson’s Bill”” under the previous G...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c543 (Link to this contribution) 28: Clause 5, page 3, line 30, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert ““proposes to make an ord...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c543 (Link to this contribution) 24: Clause 4, page 3, line 9, at end insert— ““(3A) An order under subsection (2) or (3)(b) is subje...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c544 (Link to this contribution) 37: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause— ““Closure of post offices (1) Where any compan...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c543-4 (Link to this contribution) 31: Clause 5, page 3, line 38, leave out paragraph (a) and insert— ““(a) give details of the propose...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c543 (Link to this contribution) 29: Clause 5, page 3, line 34, leave out subsection (2) and insert— ““(2) The Secretary of State mus...
Lord Haskel | 727 c543 (Link to this contribution) If Amendment 29 is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 30 because of pre-emption. Amendment 29 Moved b...
Lord Cotter | 727 c542 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for putting forward the government amendments, which both clarify and...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c542 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, thank you very much indeed for those contributions. The noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, was mo...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c536-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 22, 24, 28, 29, 31 and 32 in order to reflect their purpo...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c539-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we welcome government Amendments 19, 22, 24, 28, 29, 31 and 32. They are a very positive r...
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c543 (Link to this contribution) 22: Clause 4, page 3, line 9, after ““has”” insert ““by order”” Amendment 22 agreed. Amendment 23 ...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c556-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support the amendment. Each week something like 6.5 million visits are m...
Lord Clarke of Hampstead | 727 c506-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, first, I thank sincerely the Minister and her team for producing Amendment 54. I am touche...
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 727 c491-2 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his comments. I agree that these debates have allowed us to touch on import...
Lord Whitty | 727 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to the earlier amendments that were previously grouped with this amendm...
Lord Haskel | 727 c545 (Link to this contribution) I have to inform your Lordships that there is a misprint in proposed new subsection (3) in the Marsh...
Lord Young of Norwood Green | 727 c553-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief because my noble friend Lord Lea has covered the waterfront, as they say....
Baroness Wilcox | 727 c559 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, during an earlier debate on Amendment 54 the noble Lord, Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville,...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 727 c505-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may comment first on the amendment which has just been moved by the noble Lord, ...
Lord Rogan | 727 c509-10 (Link to this contribution) 15: Clause 2, page 2, line 19, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of State shall submit a report to ...
Lord Lea of Crondall | 727 c551-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 11 provides for the annual report on the post office network. The amendment seeks t...
Subjects
Disability Assets Costs Bank services Closures Capital investment Archives Pensioners Northern Ireland Privatisation Pensions Museums and galleries Public consultation Post offices Pension funds Profit sharing Postal services Postal Services Commission Post Office Scotland Small businesses Shares Reform Wales Valuation Trusts Rural areas Royal Mail Universal service obligation
Legislation
Postal Services Bill 2010-12
Link
View this Parliamentary proceeding on www.publications.parliament.uk