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Debates on delegated legislation on Thursday, 15 December 2011, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness O'Cathain. The answering member was Lord Henley.

Marriages and Civil Partnerships (Approved Premises) (Amendment) Regulations 2011

Marriages and Civil Partnerships (Approved Premises) (Amendment) Regulations 2011 (SI 2011/1769). Lords debate on a motion that the regulations be annulled on the grounds that they do not fulfill the Government's pledge to protect properly faith groups from being compelled to register civil partnerships where it is against their beliefs. Motion withdrawn.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
733 c1408-47 
Session
2010-12
Department
Home Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
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Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c1423 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is absolutely plain that the noble Lord, Lord Alli, and those who supported him in the ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c1446 (Link to this contribution) Is my noble friend speaking on behalf of the Government at this Dispatch Box, having regard to the c...
Lord Henley | 733 c1446 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am making, as my noble and learned friend put it, a considered ministerial Statement fro...
Lord Tebbit | 733 c1446 (Link to this contribution) Could my noble friend address the point I raised earlier? In the event that the permissive nature of...
Lord Henley | 733 c1446 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure which European court my noble friend is referring to. If he is referring to ...
Lord Henley | 733 c1447 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I confirm again to my noble friend that that is exactly what I said. Section 202 inserts a...
Baroness O'Cathain | 733 c1446-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank everyone who has taken part in this debate. I was very relieved that I was not at ...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1447 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, since I raised the matter of Pepper v Hart—
Lord Cormack | 733 c1438-9 (Link to this contribution) All I will say to the noble Baroness—who made a speech and not an intervention—is that she was airin...
Baroness Anelay of St Johns | 733 c1439 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I might at this stage respond to some of the comments made around the House. I kno...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 733 c1438 (Link to this contribution) Since I am not likely to make a speech today, I should like to ask the noble Lord a question in rela...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c1441-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have heard today some extraordinarily powerful and important speeches. When we were in ...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 733 c1440-1 (Link to this contribution) I respectfully but absolutely reject the contention that has just been made. Indeed, it is somewhat ...
Lord Framlingham | 733 c1440 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord will appreciate that the debate today has been legalistic—because this is obviously w...
Lord Carlile of Berriew | 733 c1439-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the opinion of the House is tested on this Motion to annul I shall be voting against th...
Lord Henley | 733 c1445-6 (Link to this contribution) I hope that this debate has brought a considerable degree of clarity to this issue. I think that it ...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 733 c1445 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord leaves the very important statement that he made, both in his letter...
Lord Henley | 733 c1443-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by echoing the words of the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Oxford when he su...
Lord Collins of Highbury | 733 c1435-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in my maiden speech to this House, my first thanks went to the officials and staff for the...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1435 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we will hear from the noble Lord, Lord Collins, and then from the noble Lord, Lord Dannatt...
Lord Dannatt | 733 c1436-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, had I spoken earlier in this debate, I would have made a lengthy speech, much of which has...
Lord Cormack | 733 c1437 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have some sympathy with the points just made by the noble Lord, Lord Dannatt, but I shou...
Baroness Brinton | 733 c1437 (Link to this contribution) Does my noble friend therefore disagree with the advice from Church House, which states quite catego...
Lord Cormack | 733 c1437-8 (Link to this contribution) I am not concerned with that legal opinion; I am trying to make a different point, which it is clear...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1436 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps the noble Lord, Lord Dannatt, could speak first and then my noble friend Lord Corm...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1434 (Link to this contribution) I agree. I am seeking, using the Church of England opinion as a short way of doing so, to refer to t...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c1435 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord mentioned the case coming to the Supreme Court. That would cost the church a penny or...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1435 (Link to this contribution) No respectable member of the Bar, properly informed and reading the statute as a whole, if asked whe...
Lord Alton of Liverpool | 733 c1434 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord. I want to revert to the point that the noble Lord, Lord...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1434 (Link to this contribution) I should say that I am not a learned Lord. Whether I am a noble Lord is another matter.
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 733 c1430-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke in favour of the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Alli, and in principle I...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1432 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, could speak, we could then hear from the Labour Benches.
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1432-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall briefly say a few extra things. I am very conscious of time, and I am tempted to do what a f...
Lord Elton | 733 c1434 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is kind to give way. I just want to observe that, like many before him and no doubt s...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1429 (Link to this contribution) Let us hear from the noble Lord, Lord Anderson.
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 733 c1429 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a remarkable debate. I only wish that there had been a similar debate in the...
Baroness Noakes | 733 c1430 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was pleased to be able to add my name to the amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Al...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 733 c1419-20 (Link to this contribution) My unequivocal view, which I have been trying to express, though rather badly, is that the provision...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 733 c1418-9 (Link to this contribution) In general terms I can give no assurance that the European courts cannot override the British courts...
Baroness Williams of Crosby | 733 c1419 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble and learned Lord finishes his extraordinarily useful and helpful speech, could I as...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 733 c1418 (Link to this contribution) I apologise. Mr O’Neill says that since Section 3 of the Human Rights Act requires statutes to be in...
Lord Tebbit | 733 c1418 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord has given a splendid exposition of the law of the United Kingdom. Can he ...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1423 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps we may hear from someone on the Conservative Benches and then come back to the nob...
Lord Laming | 733 c1422 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the right reverend Prelate and we should be extremely gra...
Baroness O'Cathain | 733 c1408 (Link to this contribution) That a Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that the regulations, laid before the Hous...
Lord Alli | 733 c1413-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wanted to start by arguing that this issue has already been debated at length in your Lo...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1415 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, to assist the House I suggest we hear from the Liberal Democrat Benches first, maybe then ...
Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 733 c1416-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak as a lawyer today. I concede my obligation to the House to set out my genuine view...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c1415-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we complain when primary legislation is not commenced or implemented. The first instinct o...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have plenty of time. Perhaps we could hear from the right reverend Prelate and then fro...
Bishop of Blackburn | 733 c1427-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course I share the concerns expressed by others about how these regulations might affec...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1428 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Richardson, has been trying to get in for a long time. We will hear from th...
Baroness Richardson of Calow | 733 c1428 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rejoice that many Christians and some churches have acknowledged that for some men and w...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1428 (Link to this contribution) Can I take it from his speech that the right reverend Prelate disagrees with the legal advice given ...
Bishop of Blackburn | 733 c1428 (Link to this contribution) I think that the legal advice given to the Church of England in some areas may be open to question. ...
Lord Pannick | 733 c1426-7 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Baroness knows very well, that case raised completely different issues. No specific pro...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1423 (Link to this contribution) Leaving aside altogether the argument about the declaratory provision, does the noble and learned Lo...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c1424 (Link to this contribution) Two QCs have reached the opposite conclusion. I am not sitting as a judge here. I am seeing that tha...
Lord Pannick | 733 c1424-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much respect the principled views of the noble Baroness, Lady O'Cathain, but this i...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c1425 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord must accept that the operative effect of the provision in the Equality Act is to make...
Lord Pannick | 733 c1425-6 (Link to this contribution) I entirely accept that, but it is the Equality Act that addressed this very question of the circumst...
Lord Tebbit | 733 c1426 (Link to this contribution) The point is that we are opening the way for the court to do so. The noble Lord said that he would b...
Lord Pannick | 733 c1426 (Link to this contribution) I submit that this Parliament must proceed by what we recognise is the overwhelming probability. We ...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 733 c1426 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord took great comfort from the Human Rights Act, which of course dates back some time be...
Baroness Deech | 733 c1426 (Link to this contribution) Given the protection for religious freedom that the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, has just described, wh...
Lord Pannick | 733 c1426 (Link to this contribution) My answer to the noble and learned Lord is that in 2010, when the noble Lord, Lord Alli, was seeking...
Baroness O'Cathain | 733 c1447 (Link to this contribution) I was speaking. I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Lester, but I was in the middle of my request to...
Baroness Verma | 733 c1430 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may we hear from the Conservative Benches, then from the Liberal Democrats, and then from ...
Baroness O'Cathain | 733 c1408-13 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, although I am a reluctant rebel today I am very grateful to the Government, and particular...
Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 733 c1434-5 (Link to this contribution) If there is vexatious litigation, it should be struck out by the court as vexatious and nothing more...
Bishop of Oxford | 733 c1420-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Falconer, for an extraordinar...
Baroness Trumpington | 733 c1417 (Link to this contribution) Could the noble and learned Lord please stop turning away?
Subjects
Civil partnerships Ceremonies Equality Discrimination Marriage Registration Religious freedom Religious buildings
Legislation
Marriages and Civil Partnerships (Approved Premises) (Amendment) Regulations 2011
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