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Debate on select committee report on Tuesday, 1 May 2012, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Richard. The answering member was Lord Wallace of Saltaire.

Draft House of Lords Reform Bill

Lords debate on motion to take note of the report from the Joint Committee on the draft House of Lords Reform Bill. (HL 284 2010-12). Agreed to on question. (Continuation of debate from 30 April 2012).

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
736 c2081-113 
Session
2010-12
Department
Joint Committee on the Draft House of Lords Reform Bill
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Draft House of Lords Reform Bill
Monday, 30 April 2012
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Elton | 736 c2112 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord does not seem to be addressing, in the appropriate slot, what many of us, i...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2112 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for his reminder that an issue that we need to take into account as we consid...
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Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2111 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister says that he has not heard anything new, but would he not accept that in both...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2111-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course, this is a debate to take note of the Richard report. It has been read extensive...
Lord Cormack | 736 c2111 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had hoped that the Minister would indicate that he has listened to what has been said an...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2111 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to almost the entire debate and particularly to my noble friend’...
Earl Attlee | 736 c2113 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that the House do adjourn during pleasure until 1.30 pm. Sitting suspended....
Lord Richard | 736 c2113 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had an interesting debate. I listened very carefully to what the Minister said. He...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2113 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that point is for the Queen’s Speech debate on constitutional reform.
Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 736 c2112 (Link to this contribution) The Minister quite rightly made trust a major theme of his speech. Does he not consider that part of...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2106 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the reference in volume 3 is indeed not to whether the Parliament Acts would be used, it i...
Lord Bilimoria | 736 c2107 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for giving way. The noble Lord, Lord Tyler, and the noble Baroness, Lady Young,...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2107 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am talking about a wider and longer-term sense of public disillusionment with all politi...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 736 c2107 (Link to this contribution) My reference to ““superannuated”” related to paying salaries and pensions in a reformed House—someth...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2108 (Link to this contribution) Many of those who most admire the House as it is are among those who have been here for a relatively...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2108-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we will agree to differ and I shall check back. I think that we have changed a great deal ...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 736 c2108 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that the number of interventions on members of the Government is noticed more by t...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2109-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amount of time in the next Session to be spent on this subject will depend partly on h...
Lord Grenfell | 736 c2109 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is making an assumption when he says that we have to wait until all these p...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2104 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have always said that we would support a 100 per cent elected House.
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2103-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what the report says is: "““The Committee recommends that, in view of the significance of ...
Lord Strathclyde | 736 c2104 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me be clear about what the noble Lord is saying. Is he saying that the Labour Party’s ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2104 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to my noble friend for his contribution and for his long campaign and s...
Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 736 c2105 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is important that we are clear on this—by the way, of course I agree with that position...
Lord Richard | 736 c2104 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord says that we have consistently supported a 100 per cent elected House. I ha...
Lord Richard | 736 c2106 (Link to this contribution) Did I hear the noble Lord right? Did he say that the Attorney-General has made his position clear on...
Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 736 c2105-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my congratulations go to all those who have sat through most of this debate and who were h...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2105 (Link to this contribution) Our position is very clear. If there is to be an elected House, it should be 100 per cent elected. O...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2100 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lady Andrews is right to say that this has been a fascinating debate. I, t...
Baroness Young of Hornsey | 736 c2098-100 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak briefly in the gap and thank the House for allowing me the opportunity to ...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2101-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Lord for reminding me of the heroic efforts that I, other ...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2100-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to refer to the noble Lord’s work on this issue as we have been through so ma...
Lord Ryder of Wensum | 736 c2093-4 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my noble friend. I have known him for many decades and I would never accuse hi...
Lord True | 736 c2093 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is avoided precisely by the concept of the long mandate, which is non-renewable and wit...
Baroness Andrews | 736 c2095-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a very powerful and forensic debate. It is a challenge to be the last Back-B...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2103 (Link to this contribution) Democracy, ah! He told the House of Commons on 20 March that a referendum was not appropriate becaus...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2103 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is really kind, but it was quite clear from the discussion—and of course he was not p...
Lord True | 736 c2092-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a privilege to follow the noble Lord, who adorns this House, and will continue to ad...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2090 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the noble Baroness did not feel able to speak during the debate yesterday; she could...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 736 c2090 (Link to this contribution) Was the question put to the public for a mandate to serve on a similar term to that in the Commons o...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2089-90 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to keep within my time. I have already been interrupted on a number of occasions and oth...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2089 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness misunderstands the position. I am totally relaxed about a post-legislative refere...
Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean | 736 c2089 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, but I am surprised that he is in favour of a refer...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2089 (Link to this contribution) I have always been in favour of referendums. I have no problem with a referendum and I will explain ...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 736 c2089 (Link to this contribution) If all the indicators are that the public are in favour of the reform, why is the noble Lord so adam...
Lord Lipsey | 736 c2088 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my patience is great but has now been exhausted. I prepared the best costing possible of t...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2088 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness is right, but there is no proposal yet on the table. I am illustrating the cost i...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2088-9 (Link to this contribution) I hope the noble Lord will now read the Joint Committee report, because there are specific recommend...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 736 c2083-4 (Link to this contribution) Well, if the noble Lord casts his mind back, he will know that, just as today, constituents would no...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 736 c2087 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, criticised my noble friend Lord Lipsey because he did not have...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2087-8 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the noble Baroness says, but these are the conclusions of the unanimous report in this r...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 736 c2082-3 (Link to this contribution) I have to say to my noble friend that I read his speech with interest. In it he made that point repe...
Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 736 c2082 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I knew that an intervention would be popular. Can the noble Lord address the central ques...
Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 736 c2082 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the noble Lord would allow me to intervene. I am most grateful to him.
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 736 c2081-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, having listened to many of the speeches yesterday—I confess that I missed some of them bec...
Lord Richard | 736 c2081 (Link to this contribution) That this House takes note of the report from the Joint Committee on the draft House of Lords Reform...
Lord True | 736 c2094-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the procedures of this House are not currently in a state which would enable the Executive...
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 736 c2093 (Link to this contribution) Can my noble friend help me and perhaps explain how it would be that if we had this elected second C...
Baroness Taylor of Bolton | 736 c2084-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is very difficult to follow the noble Lord, because he has given us a comprehensive dem...
Lord Tyler | 736 c2087 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not think that the draft Bill is perfect, but I think it will be improved by the work...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 736 c2104 (Link to this contribution) Consistently in the new Parliament we have argued for a 100 per cent elected House.
Lord Kakkar | 736 c2090-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, join other noble Lords in congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Richard, on the work...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 736 c2088 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the noble Lord concede that few if any Members of your Lordships’ House believe, as f...
Subjects
Elections House of Lords House of Commons House of Lords composition Electoral systems Pay Powers Public appointments Referendums Peers Reform Transitional arrangements Length of service
Legislation
Parliament Act 1911
Parliament Act 1949
Draft House of Lords Reform Bill
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