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Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

I do not want to get involved in an exercise in semantics, but subsection (4) of new clause 6, which states:"““The degree of force used by D is not to be regarded as having been reasonable in those circumstances if it was disproportionate in those circumstances””," qualifies subsection (3). As a result, the suggestion that in some way the Government have magicked in a wholly subjective test, is wrong. I would have been surprised and rather shattered if the Government had gone that far, and I would have suggested that it was far too far to go. New clause 8 is far more simply worded and clearly provides that"““this was or ought to have been apparent to the person using such force.””" It focuses on the degree of force used, and whether it was grossly disproportionate. That is a much simpler and more straightforward way of viewing it than the convolutions that, the more the interventions have gone on, seem to be coming from those on the Liberal Democrat Benches.