Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Monday, 23 January 2006, in the House of Lords.
Compensation Bill [HL]
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- 2005-06
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- Department for Constitutional Affairs
- Committee of the Whole House (HL)
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- House of Lords Grand Committee
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Compensation Bill (HL). Explanatory notes HL Bill 35-EN also published
Wednesday, 2 November 2005
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House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c304GC (Link to this contribution) I would not want the noble Lord to think for one minute that the issues that he raises do not help u...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c295GC (Link to this contribution) I support the argument put by the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart. I raised the question of the Office of ...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) The key, of course, is when we are going to see government amendments. We welcome the way in which t...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c343GC (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister replies, I think there are seven affirmative statutory instruments at the moment...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c343-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the noble Viscount’s caution. Perhaps he should have given me that advice before I...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c340-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for putting so well what I might be able to offer the Committee. How...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c339GC (Link to this contribution) On several occasions during this Committee session the Minister has used the word ““flexibility””. O...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c327GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, said, we discussed this matter at Second Reading, and the noble Lo...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c325-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 56:"Page 4, line 6, leave out subsection (2)." The noble Lord said: Subsection ...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c325GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for her approach to the amendment, and in the circumstances I sha...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c312-3GC (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether any specific studies have been done, but it is part of what I have been discus...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c299GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 42:"Page 2, line 47, at end insert ““but not in such a way as to advertise those...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c300GC (Link to this contribution) What more can I add? I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amend...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c300-2GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44:"Page 3, line 6, at end insert ““, and" (d) will promote the wider concep...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c294GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 43 in this group is in my name. Its purpose is to remove from the Bill one of the spec...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c291-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 41: Page 2, line 44, leave out paragraph (c) and insert— ““(c) will protect...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c297-8GC (Link to this contribution) I shall just say a little bit more about the case, which was a Dutch case that concerned the Dutch B...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c297GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, but could she explain in more detail the decision of the European Cou...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) Of course, I accept all that the noble Baroness has said. We have great expectations. I beg leave to...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c336GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for what she has said. It goes a considerable way to satisfy the ...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c331-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 63:"Page 4, line 31, leave out subsections (3) to (5)." The noble Lord said: In...
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Baroness Fookes | 677 c333GC (Link to this contribution) I remind the Committee that, if Amendment No. 63 is agreed, I cannot call Amendments Nos. 64 or 65 b...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c328GC (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to give a couple of hypothetical examples. One would be if a charity was told that the...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c326-7GC (Link to this contribution) I strongly support the noble Lord’s amendment. As he explained, the subsection creates a defence for...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c323-4GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lord Hunt. There could be a problem if you regulate on the basis of drawin...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c321-2GC (Link to this contribution) In relation to Amendment No. 53, I was describing to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, the implications of ...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c317-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 52:"Page 3, line 33, leave out ““The Secretary of State may by order provide tha...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c312GC (Link to this contribution) It was interesting to read the figures of the various sectors. In each case, the number anticipated ...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c311-2GC (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly try. Mr Boleat said that he thought that the figures that we had worked out for £1...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c308-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 49:"Page 3, line 20, leave out subsection (5)." The noble Lord said: The amendm...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c309-10GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for enabling me to discuss with the Committee some of the issues aro...
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Viscount Allenby of Megiddo | 677 c305GC (Link to this contribution) A Division has been called. We shall reassemble at 4.41 pm. [The Sitting was suspended for a Divisi...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c298-9GC (Link to this contribution) This has been an interesting debate; indeed, it has almost been two separate debates. The debate ini...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c303-4GC (Link to this contribution) This has been a valuable debate and I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, for his support....
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c304GC (Link to this contribution) I find that intervention extremely valuable. In those circumstances, points have been made and I beg...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c302GC (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to concur with what the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral, has just said. It is a matt...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c298GC (Link to this contribution) I find the European judgment somewhat obscure at present. If the Minister is right that the suggesti...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c295-7GC (Link to this contribution) I begin with the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Wirral. I am very grateful to him for exp...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c342GC (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to do so in those circumstances. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, ...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c342-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 76A:"Page 7, line 12, at end insert ““but such order shall be made not later tha...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c339-40GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. Last week her commitment was to share a draft. I emphasise...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c339GC (Link to this contribution) I am interested to see that the noble Viscount, Lord Eccles, returns again to his theme of unintende...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c337-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 66:"Page 5, line 4, leave out ““may”” and insert ““shall””" The noble Lord said...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c334-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for raising these issues. As well as being busy, the Department of Cons...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c329-30GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 57:"Page 4, line 13, leave out sub-paragraph (i)." The noble Lord said: In movi...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c328-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that on this occasion I am not satisfied with the Minister’s arguments. The principle th...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c331GC (Link to this contribution) The approved person regime is run by the FSA. I have said before that the FSA model gives us a great...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c330GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend Lord Hunt. It seems disproportionate to include prison sentences in these ...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c330GC (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the concern of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, about enforcement and the need to ensure that...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c327-8GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister seems to have paused for a moment. Could some words not be inserted into the provision ...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c319-20GC (Link to this contribution) In pursuing this subject, at some point we should arrive at a reasonably exhaustive list of what bod...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c318-9GC (Link to this contribution) It is for the convenience of the Committee that we take Amendment No. 53, which stands in my name, w...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c324-5GC (Link to this contribution) In response to the issue raised by the noble Viscount, we will seek to provide in the regulations as...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c320-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all three noble Lords for raising an important part of our discussions: how best to...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c317GC (Link to this contribution) In the circumstances, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amen...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c316-7GC (Link to this contribution) I will be delighted to do that. I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving me the opportunity to do ...
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Viscount Eccles | 677 c313-4GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may offer a little prediction. I am very doubtful about whether the Bill will change the s...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c306-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that I can follow that. However, I shall, as always, try. I looked at this because, li...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c306GC (Link to this contribution) We assume that there will be certain targets, whether implicit or explicit, public or private, and t...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c307GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. On Amendment No. 46, we are talking not about the actual results but ...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c302-3GC (Link to this contribution) This is a very interesting debate. I spent a good few years as a director of Business in the Communi...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c299-300GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord and I are in complete agreement on the role of the regulator—namely, that the regulat...
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Viscount Allenby of Megiddo | 677 c294GC (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that, if this amendment were to be agreed, under the pre-emption rule...
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Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a convenient time for the Committee to adjourn until Wednesday at 3.30 pm.
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c344GC (Link to this contribution) My point about business management is that in order to get this Bill into another place and through ...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c341GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 75A:"Page 6, line 28, leave out paragraph (a)." The noble Lord said: This provi...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c341-2GC (Link to this contribution) I absolutely understand what the noble Lord is saying about the apparent breadth of this provision, ...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c336GC (Link to this contribution) We will ensure that noble Lords have sight of the amendments in good time so that they can table the...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c336GC (Link to this contribution) In these amendments, there are a number of matters that ought to go on to the face of the Bill or in...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c338-9GC (Link to this contribution) Some time ago, I promised myself that I would never allow myself to become involved in one of the nu...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c333-4GC (Link to this contribution) These are important amendments and I look forward to the Minister’s response. For the sake of comple...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c322-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 55:"Page 3, line 36, leave out subsection (2) and insert—" ““(2) The Secreta...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c322GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister. I welcome the statement that she has made about what the Government i...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c310-1GC (Link to this contribution) It would be very helpful if the Minister could give a little detail about the two separate figures o...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c315-6GC (Link to this contribution) This is becoming a fascinating debate. It is vitally important that if public money is to be utilise...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 677 c314-5GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Viscount raises some valuable points. It is probably worth saying that most personal injur...
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Viscount Allenby of Megiddo | 677 c305GC (Link to this contribution) I have to inform the Committee that if this amendment were agreed to, I would not be able to call Am...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c304-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 46:"Page 3, line 16, leave out paragraph (d)." The noble Lord said: In moving A...
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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 677 c305GC (Link to this contribution) That is a good reason why I should speak to Amendment No. 47. I seek to omit the very words that the...
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Lord Goodhart | 677 c307-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 48:"Page 3, line 19, at end insert—" ““( ) The Secretary of State shall la...
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