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Legislative debate on Tuesday, 31 October 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Douglas Alexander. The answering member was Lord Grayling.

Crossrail Bill

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
451 c225-68 
Session
2005-06
Department
Department for Transport
Procedure
Carry-over motions
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Crossrail Bill. Explanatory Notes Bill 1-EN also published.
Wednesday, 18 May 2005
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Mike Gapes | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) As Chairman of the all-party group on Crossrail, I am urging all parties in this House—I hope that t...
Andrew Rosindell | 451 c251 (Link to this contribution) I accept everything that the hon. Gentleman says about the importance of the regeneration that Cross...
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Lord Grayling | 451 c233 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The fortunes of the City of London, of Canary Wharf and of t...
Mike Gapes | 451 c233 (Link to this contribution) Given that Crossrail is going to provide 40 per cent. of the additional new capacity for London’s tr...
Lord Grayling | 451 c232-3 (Link to this contribution) As the Secretary of State said, these are fundamentally procedural motions. To a significant extent,...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c231-2 (Link to this contribution) The position in relation to Reading is fundamentally different, given that it is beyond the bounds o...
Rob Wilson | 451 c231 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to the arguments that the Secretary of State has just deployed about Woolwich. Will ...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c231 (Link to this contribution) I fear that I might disappoint my hon. Friend. A station at Woolwich has never been part of the Cros...
Clive Efford | 451 c231 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for the position that he has taken on Woolwich station; it has...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c230-1 (Link to this contribution) No: for precisely the reasons that I have given, we want to ensure that Crossrail is on. We want to ...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c230 (Link to this contribution) I stand by all the comments that I have made. The scheme needs to be affordable. We made a considere...
Lord Grayling | 451 c235 (Link to this contribution) May I remind the hon. Lady that her party is in government and mine is not?
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) I may be right—but what is the answer?
Lord Grayling | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) I was about to come to the question of cost. The hon. Lady is absolutely right, in that we do not ac...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help the hon. Gentleman. I will not hold him to figures, because that is embarrassing....
Lord Grayling | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) I do not know what the cost of the project is, and I am waiting with interest to find out. The Secre...
Lord Grayling | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) First, I am very disappointed to hear the Secretary of State quoting from an e-mail that was stolen ...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I am not very bright—is the hon. Gentleman saying that he is committing to this amo...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c233-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way. Given the assurance that he has just given to my...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c230 (Link to this contribution) With the greatest respect to the hon. Gentleman and his constituents, only the Member representing M...
Mark Field | 451 c230 (Link to this contribution) I am not here to make an argument in favour of or against Woolwich station, but we are talking about...
Lord Pickles | 451 c230 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Secretary of State for giving way for the second time. Will he answer the question that ...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c227-8 (Link to this contribution) That is an intriguing idea. The Government have always made it clear that the principal users of Cro...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c228 (Link to this contribution) This question has been raised before, in connection with the great western line out of Paddington ra...
Bob Russell | 451 c228 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State mentioned the communities that will benefit. Will there be additional track c...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c228 (Link to this contribution) I do not want properties in Mayfair or anywhere else to be blighted unnecessarily. We want this hybr...
Mark Field | 451 c228 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State has said that he wants this hybrid Bill to go through Parliament before a fun...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c229-30 (Link to this contribution) I shall certainly consider the point that my right hon. Friend raises. I do not want to disappoint h...
Nick Raynsford | 451 c229 (Link to this contribution) I sought advice from the Library on this matter and was told that the hybrid Bill on the channel tun...
Alistair Carmichael | 451 c243-4 (Link to this contribution) The Liberal Democrats do not oppose the motions and we certainly will not divide the House tonight. ...
Nick Raynsford | 451 c242-3 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend will know, I made it absolutely clear at the outset of my speech that I wholly sup...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c244 (Link to this contribution) Amid the welter of interventions that I took, I fear that I inadvertently failed to echo the sentime...
Alan Meale | 451 c246 (Link to this contribution) It was remiss of me not to mention that a number of Members of Parliament came forward to help their...
Lord Pickles | 451 c246 (Link to this contribution) Now it is my turn to feel embarrassed—
Alan Meale | 451 c244-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Secretary of State. The Committee has sat not only while the House of Commons ...
Charles Walker | 451 c246 (Link to this contribution) Does not the hon. Gentleman agree that if the total cost of Crossrail has been estimated at £16 bill...
Alan Meale | 451 c246 (Link to this contribution) As I said, the Committee has already accepted the Secretary of State’s offer on that. The figures gi...
Lord Pickles | 451 c246 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Mansfield (Mr. Meale) has a reputation in the House as a courteous and modest ma...
Mike Gapes | 451 c249 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that you called me at this moment, Mr. Deputy Speaker, because it enables me to respond di...
Lord Pickles | 451 c247-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has made a good local point. The good people of London will be expected to pay an awf...
Justine Greening | 451 c247 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that the uncertainty about Crossrail funding is particularly bad for Londo...
Lord Pickles | 451 c247 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. I shall deal briefly with one or two matters, starting with the report by Sir Michael Lyons....
Lee Scott | 451 c249 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that Crossrail going to his constituency will also benefit my constitu...
Mike Gapes | 451 c249 (Link to this contribution) That is absolutely right. The council has a scheme called ““Progressive Ilford””, which is a 30-year...
Lord Pickles | 451 c249 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman misunderstands me. I am delighted that the line is going to Ilford, but I have a ...
Mike Gapes | 451 c249 (Link to this contribution) I hope that when this process is finally concluded we will all be satisfied in our aspirations. I ca...
Lord Grayling | 451 c235 (Link to this contribution) Much as I would like to, I cannot become Secretary of State for another three years. If the Secretar...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c235 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not recognise that, as I said earlier, project costs were discussed when the...
Lord Grayling | 451 c235 (Link to this contribution) I take it that that is a ““maybe””, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We do not know what the Government’s funding...
Lord Pickles | 451 c235 (Link to this contribution) I am puzzled, as I am sure that my hon. Friend is, by all this talk of Sir Michael Lyons. At a meeti...
Lord Grayling | 451 c235-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I have said all along that I fear that the Crossrail Bill is a confidence t...
Mark Field | 451 c236 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend think that there might be some connection here with the fact that the Secretary ...
Charles Walker | 451 c236 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend not concerned that by 2008 a major infrastructure project for the Olympics will al...
Lord Grayling | 451 c236-7 (Link to this contribution) I should be disappointed if we were not capable of undertaking a number of major projects at once. C...
Nick Raynsford | 451 c237 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman confirm that during the 1990s it was his party in government that introduced...
Lord Grayling | 451 c237 (Link to this contribution) Let me remind the hon. Gentleman that it was his party that announced and then scrapped the modernis...
Martin Salter | 451 c237 (Link to this contribution) It is touching of the hon. Gentleman to make it clear that in government he would be prepared to fin...
Lord Grayling | 451 c238 (Link to this contribution) You are absolutely right, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We support the Bill, and as the months go by, I look ...
Nick Raynsford | 451 c238-9 (Link to this contribution) I draw attention to my registered interest as chairman of the Construction Industry Council. Crossr...
Lord Grayling | 451 c238 (Link to this contribution) But may I remind the right hon. Gentleman that it was my party in government that introduced Britain...
Speaker | 451 c238 (Link to this contribution) Order. I suggest to the House that we have had enough reminders for the time being.
Mark Field | 451 c239 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is making a powerful case for Woolwich, which is in his constituency, and I...
Nick Raynsford | 451 c239-41 (Link to this contribution) No; the two lines serve completely different purposes, which can be illustrated by the travel times....
Peter Soulsby | 451 c259 (Link to this contribution) I hear that assurance again from the Front Bench. Of course, when a Whip tells me that something is ...
Justine Greening | 451 c259 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is reinforcing the argument against 90-day detention. Those poor MPs were stuck i...
Peter Soulsby | 451 c259-61 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that before we get to the end of our sentence, we will have served at least 90 days. It ha...
Clive Efford | 451 c256-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend, but that Bill is still fairly recent in the entire history of...
George Howarth | 451 c258 (Link to this contribution) But the converse is also true: if we do not invest in cities such as Liverpool—or conurbations such ...
Clive Efford | 451 c258 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point to a degree. But we should look at the overall contribution that that investment...
Lord Grayling | 451 c234 (Link to this contribution) There is an interesting question, which I will throw back at the Secretary of State. It may be that ...
Mike Gapes | 451 c242 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend will know that I supported his early-day motion and that there is a powerful ca...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c227 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Brentwood and Ongar (Mr. Pickles) has alluded already to the size of the sums in...
Simon Hughes | 451 c227 (Link to this contribution) The next round of the comprehensive spending review will take place next summer, and that will have ...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c227 (Link to this contribution) I will come on to the specific issue of the affordability of Woolwich. I know that the hon. Gentlema...
Lord Pickles | 451 c226-7 (Link to this contribution) Does the Secretary of State agree that the new Minister with responsibility for Crossrail is right w...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c225-6 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That further proceedings on the Crossrail Bill shall be suspended from the day on whi...
Speaker | 451 c225 (Link to this contribution) Motions 3 and 4 on the Crossrail Bill will be debated together. I should also inform the House that ...
Richard Ottaway | 451 c227 (Link to this contribution) The question goes beyond affordability and how much the project will cost. Who is doing the paying? ...
Stephen Hammond | 451 c261-3 (Link to this contribution) London, as we know, is the global city. It is the Olympic-winning city of 2012. It is competing in t...
Charles Walker | 451 c261 (Link to this contribution) I intend to speak for only a few minutes. First, may I say to the right hon. Member for Knowsley, No...
Mike Gapes | 451 c250 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to get into that.
Mike Gapes | 451 c250 (Link to this contribution) I think that it shows that the new Crossrail project management team, under Doug Oakervee and others...
Brian Binley | 451 c250-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Member for Ilford, South (Mike Gapes) who spoke kindly about the Committee. His goo...
Justine Greening | 451 c252 (Link to this contribution) Speaking as an accountant, I think my hon. Friend is making a very interesting point, but does he ag...
Brian Binley | 451 c251-2 (Link to this contribution) Crossrail’s impact on London—and the costs of the disruption that it will cause, too—have not been p...
Philip Hollobone | 451 c253 (Link to this contribution) The Select Committee went to the trouble of visiting Woolwich and investigating in depth the case pu...
Brian Binley | 451 c252-3 (Link to this contribution) Of course I accept that point. The only thing I would object to is being called an accountant—but ne...
George Howarth | 451 c254-5 (Link to this contribution) I came here at the beginning of the debate with the intention of dividing the House where that was p...
Charles Walker | 451 c255 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the right hon. Gentleman says, but London is the economic engine-room of this country. I...
Brian Binley | 451 c253-4 (Link to this contribution) That is a good suggestion and I am sure that the right hon. Member for Greenwich and Woolwich would ...
George Howarth | 451 c255 (Link to this contribution) That only confirms my view that we are living in cloud cuckoo land with this Crossrail scheme. At an...
Bob Russell | 451 c255-6 (Link to this contribution) Any transport scheme that will encourage greater public use should, in principle, be supported, but ...
George Howarth | 451 c255 (Link to this contribution) I accept that what the hon. Gentleman says has an implication, and I accept that there is a price to...
Douglas Alexander | 451 c256 (Link to this contribution) To clarify the matter for my hon. Friend, I can tell him that I was referring to the original Crossr...
Clive Efford | 451 c256 (Link to this contribution) I want to express my gratitude, and that of my constituents, to my right hon. Friend the Secretary o...
Tom Harris | 451 c263-6 (Link to this contribution) I will not detain the House longer than necessary. This has been an excellent and informed debate. I...
Andrew Rosindell | 451 c250 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for referring to Romford. My constituents are delighted that the proposed...
Alan Meale | 451 c244 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the offer that has been made by the Secretary of State and the Under-Secretary of S...
Lord Grayling | 451 c236 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a very fair point. However, I hold nothing against the Secretary of State. He i...
Peter Soulsby | 451 c258-9 (Link to this contribution) I rise as another member of the Select Committee. Earlier in the debate, the hon. Member for Epsom a...
Subjects
Compulsory purchase Costs Construction Elizabeth line Crossrail Finance Land Greater London Property transfer Planning Railway stations Railways Railway network Woolwich Underground railways Reading Station Liverpool Street Station
Legislation
Crossrail Bill 2004/05 to 2005-06 to 2006-07 to 2007-08
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