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Debate on bill on Thursday, 13 December 2007, in the House of Commons, led by Tom Harris. The answering member was Stephen Hammond.

Crossrail Bill

Crossrail Bill. Report stage. New Clause 1 debated and negatived on division (133 to 236). Amendment to Clause 23 debated and negatived on division (117 to 248). Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
469 c515-66, (corrigendum) 701-4;469 c515-66 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Transport
Legislative stage
Third reading
Report stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Related items
Crossrail Bill. As amended in Public Bill Committee.
Tuesday, 27 November 2007
Bills
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Ian Liddell-Grainger | 469 c519 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. In Committee—most of the members of the Committee are prese...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c519 (Link to this contribution) I am keen to ensure that monies raised on the disposal of the surplus should be put back against the...
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Lee Scott | 469 c518 (Link to this contribution) A few years ago the Mayor—the current incumbent, Ken Livingstone—said that the excess would be paid ...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c518-9 (Link to this contribution) That is a good point. It is apparent from the details of the funding package generously provided by ...
Mike Gapes | 469 c517 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman referred to the Mayor of London making information"““available to all who are eli...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c517-8 (Link to this contribution) Let me refer the hon. Gentleman to the new clause as a whole. If it is enacted, the House will be ab...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c516 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way at such an early stage in his speech. He has men...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 469 c516-7 (Link to this contribution) The short answer is that that is my understanding of the Government’s position, but I am not at all ...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c515 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. The Bill was given considerable scrutiny in C...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c519 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his generosity in giving way. I take it from what he has just sa...
Brian Binley | 469 c520 (Link to this contribution) My colleague in considering the hybrid Bill attempts to lead me into an alley that I do not wish to ...
Robert Goodwill | 469 c521 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that road construction projects on contract had typical cost overruns in the regi...
Speaker | 469 c521 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before the hon. Gentleman responds, I urge him to stick to his original vow and keep on the s...
Brian Binley | 469 c521 (Link to this contribution) I was about to say that PFI for other matters was outside the remit of this debate, Mr. Deputy Speak...
Brian Binley | 469 c520 (Link to this contribution) I stand to make an appeal to the Minister. I am hopeful that my appeal will receive some response—I ...
Mike Gapes | 469 c520 (Link to this contribution) Is it not also the case that Crossrail will provide benefits of £36 billion to the UK economy as a w...
Brian Binley | 469 c520 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention because it gives me the opportunity to make the point that if on...
Kelvin Hopkins | 469 c520 (Link to this contribution) Like the hon. Gentleman, who served with me on the Select Committee on the Crossrail Bill, I am conc...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c519 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend yet again makes the point—which I am sure many Members are now assured of—that ...
Baroness Kramer | 469 c519-20 (Link to this contribution) First, I reiterate my support for the Crossrail project, and I echo our appreciation of the Minister...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c523-4 (Link to this contribution) Yes, historians may make that reference, but it is probable that much of the Bill will be implemente...
Ian Liddell-Grainger | 469 c522 (Link to this contribution) The Minister puts me in my place. That was a slip—I should have known that after spending weeks talk...
Tom Harris | 469 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) Three quarters of the new clause were debated in the Public Bill Committee. Subsection (4) is new bu...
Ian Liddell-Grainger | 469 c521-2 (Link to this contribution) One of the concerns during the passage of the Bill was the changes to do with stations, mainly in Wo...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c521 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Northampton, South (Mr. Binley), who need h...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c528 (Link to this contribution) That is a possibility, but as the hon. Gentleman knows from his membership of both the Select Commit...
Peter Soulsby | 469 c529 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his explanation of what he is trying to achieve, but does he accept t...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c529 (Link to this contribution) I accept that the amendment may be imperfect in some respects, but we need to write into the Bill so...
Mike Gapes | 469 c529 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may not be aware that one of the great potential benefits of Crossrail coming thr...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c529 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid the hon. Gentleman misses the point. The amendment is nothing to do with compulsory purc...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c527 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 2, in page 5, line 6, at end insert—
Speaker | 469 c527 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment No. 3, in page 7, line 7, clause 10, at end ins...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) Mr. Deputy Speaker, I am sure that many of my hon. Friends felt that you had a way of being able to ...
Peter Soulsby | 469 c528 (Link to this contribution) I have looked closely at the amendment. The hon. Gentleman talks about the easements expiring no lat...
Peter Soulsby | 469 c559-60 (Link to this contribution) As one of those who did two years of penal servitude on the Select Committee on the Bill, I could sp...
Baroness Kramer | 469 c557-9 (Link to this contribution) I am conscious of the time, and will endeavour to make my comments brief. Like others who served on ...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c554 (Link to this contribution) The Chairman of the Select Committee uses the right word. Closing submissions to the Select Committ...
Lord Pickles | 469 c554 (Link to this contribution) Even given its lengthy proceedings, the Committee always treated my constituents with freshness and ...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c556 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I know that he was a valued member of the Select Committee. Crossrail is e...
Nick Raynsford | 469 c556-7 (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief, but I do not want the moment to pass without congratulating my hon. Friend the Und...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c555-6 (Link to this contribution) Of course, I am not here to answer for the undertakers of the Bill, or for the Secretary of State, b...
Philip Hollobone | 469 c556 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right to highlight the Select Committee’s success in persuading the Government to ...
Tom Harris | 469 c551-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. I do not need to remind the House that thi...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c554 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister at the outset for his confirmation that he has had the opportunity to look at t...
Tom Harris | 469 c553-4 (Link to this contribution) If my right hon. Friend will forgive me, I should like to continue. Those are the key benefits. I c...
Tom Harris | 469 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) Clause 57 allows any Transport and Works Act order that relates to a proposed extension of Crossrail...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c549 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that I should declare an interest in that I live alongside the railway line between Maiden...
Tom Harris | 469 c549-50 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady is correct in her assumption. As I think I said in the Public Bill Committee, th...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c550 (Link to this contribution) I have said already that I think the 1996 Act was a fine piece of legislation from a fine Government...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c564-5 (Link to this contribution) First, may I pay tribute and give thanks to all hon. Members who served on the Committees for this B...
Clive Efford | 469 c565-6 (Link to this contribution) The arguments on Crossrail have been well rehearsed in several previous debates, so I shall be brief...
Mike Gapes | 469 c564 (Link to this contribution) I do not have time to give way. The hon. Gentleman spoke for a long time, and some of my colleagues ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 469 c563 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept the following about the days of British Rail: it worked under tig...
Speaker | 469 c563 (Link to this contribution) Order. I must remind the hon. Gentleman that we are on Third Reading of the Crossrail Bill.
Brian Binley | 469 c563 (Link to this contribution) I understand that, Madam Deputy Speaker, but I am trying to make the point that the rest of the coun...
Peter Soulsby | 469 c560 (Link to this contribution) I will give way briefly, but only once, because other hon. Members are waiting to speak.
Philip Hollobone | 469 c560 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman’s comments about the limitations of the hybrid Bill procedure. Membe...
Peter Soulsby | 469 c560-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that contribution. It is clear that the frustration was shared by oth...
Tom Harris | 469 c530-1 (Link to this contribution) I shall start by speaking to amendment No. 2. It might help if I explain the purpose of clause 7, wh...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c529-30 (Link to this contribution) I have given way to the hon. Gentleman once. I know that he will make the same point again and that ...
Lee Scott | 469 c534 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that another way of looking at the matter is that applying pressure, in th...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 469 c534-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is yet again being helpful and putting a point that I would wish to make; I am gratef...
Peter Soulsby | 469 c533-4 (Link to this contribution) I understand what the hon. Gentleman seeks to achieve, which is the construction of the whole scheme...
Lord Hammond of Runnymede | 469 c534 (Link to this contribution) I have listened to the hon. Gentleman’s logic, and I can see that one might want to be tempted by it...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c532-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 4, in page 15, line 2, after ‘(6)’, insert The clause and the amendment...
Ian Liddell-Grainger | 469 c531 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister think that the planning legislation before the House at the moment will affect tho...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c535 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to intervene briefly in the discussion about the overriding duty p...
Ian Liddell-Grainger | 469 c536 (Link to this contribution) On a point of clarification, throughout the Select Committee considering the Crossrail Bill we kept ...
Tom Harris | 469 c535-6 (Link to this contribution) I am quite prepared to offer the hon. Member for Wimbledon a merry Christmas, but not before the suc...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c538 (Link to this contribution) If one is to believe the Minister and his wonderful HLOS—high level output specification —statement,...
Tom Harris | 469 c536-7 (Link to this contribution) I can confirm that it is certainly the intention of both the Bill and the Government that where disr...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c537 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. I should also like to place on record the fact that I ...
Tom Harris | 469 c537-8 (Link to this contribution) I have spoken to the right hon. Lady about her concerns regarding the effect of Crossrail on Maidenh...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c538 (Link to this contribution) I have listened carefully to the Minister’s explanation. As usual, I have some difficulty with the i...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c538-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, as ever, for the Minister’s help. However, I am not convinced by his arguments on thi...
Tom Harris | 469 c538 (Link to this contribution) Since I always like to help the hon. Gentleman and the right hon. Lady, let me say that the service ...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c538 (Link to this contribution) That is a very interesting intervention from my right hon. Friend. I do not know the answer to it, b...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 469 c538 (Link to this contribution) I recognise the groans heard around the Chamber, but the Minister made a comment from a sedentary po...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c542 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 5, in page 17, line 19, after ‘State’, insert
Stephen Hammond | 469 c542-4 (Link to this contribution) Those hon. Members who had the joy of serving on the Public Bill Committee with me will know that we...
Speaker | 469 c542 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendment No. 1
Tom Harris | 469 c544-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not intend to accept the hon. Gentleman’s amendment, although I am grateful for the support tha...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c546 (Link to this contribution) I listened carefully to what the Minister said, and I am discovering that life in opposition is all ...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c546 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 7, in page 34, line 30, leave out from ‘applies’ to ‘in’ in line 31 and ...
Speaker | 469 c546 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 8, page 34, in line 34, lea...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) The amendments are very much of a probing nature. When we reconsidered the Committee proceedings, it...
Alan Meale | 469 c566 (Link to this contribution) In the few minutes that remain, it would be remiss of me, as Chairman of the Select Committee, if I ...
Brian Binley | 469 c561-2 (Link to this contribution) I pay tribute to the hon. Member for Leicester, South (Sir Peter Soulsby), who has proved to be a wi...
Mike Gapes | 469 c563-4 (Link to this contribution) I will be very brief. The hon. Member for Northampton, South (Mr. Binley) referred to blight and des...
Brian Binley | 469 c563 (Link to this contribution) I accept that, but I note that the economic return of almost every British Rail project was non-exis...
Stephen Hammond | 469 c532 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for calling me a sensible chap. He will know that if I say that I am i...
Tom Harris | 469 c531-2 (Link to this contribution) The clause in question is not for when something goes wrong; it is there to be flexible enough to ac...
Notes
Daily part printing error - Division No. 32 republished at 369 c701-4. Question put, That the amendment be made:— The House divided: Ayes 117, Noes 248.
Subjects
Access Disclosure of information Compensation Compulsory purchase Construction Elizabeth line Crossrail Finance Land Environment Infrastructure Freight Planning permission Railway stations Railways Railway network Reading (Berkshire) Underground railways Regeneration Woolwich Maidenhead Office of Rail Regulation
Legislation
Crossrail Bill 2004/05 to 2005-06 to 2006-07 to 2007-08
Link
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