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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 12 March 2008, in the House of Lords.

Channel Tunnel Rail Link (Supplementary Provisions) Bill

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
699 c225-56GC 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Transport
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Related items
Railway Infrastructure (Access and Management) Regulations 2005
Friday, 4 November 2005
Statutory instruments
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c232GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry. Nothing in this would constrain that development. I am sure it is highly desirable.
Lord Hanningfield | 699 c238GC (Link to this contribution) In local government, we increasingly try to ring-fence money from sales in a service area for that s...
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Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c255-6GC (Link to this contribution) This amendment is a tidying-up provision following on from earlier amendments. It appears to give th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c244-5GC (Link to this contribution) The amendment would remove the Office of Rail Regulation’s duty from the 1996 Act not to impede the ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c246GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Earl knows that performance is poor at the moment. I am not going to start bandying statis...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c245GC (Link to this contribution) When the Minister writes to us, will he be explicit about a number of issues? First, he just said th...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c242-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: 4: Clause 3, leave out Clause 3 and insert the following new Clause— ““Repe...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c254GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for that explanation, particularly for his statement about cross-su...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c252GC (Link to this contribution) Again, this simply underlines the fact that the department does not really know what it is taking on...
Earl of Mar and Kellie | 699 c229GC (Link to this contribution) I am not sure whether Amendment No. 2, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, is a probing ame...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c228GC (Link to this contribution) Surely the noble Lord is saying that the Government as regulator of the CTRL would have to reach agr...
Earl of Mar and Kellie | 699 c232GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister did not touch on my question about future international services, for example, from Bir...
Lord Dykes | 699 c234-5GC (Link to this contribution) I join the litany of speakers who say that perhaps the Minister has not answered some of the points ...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c238GC (Link to this contribution) Can my noble friend confirm that any money from the sale of CTRL infrastructure or Eurostar will go ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c238GC (Link to this contribution) One cannot make that explicit commitment, as the noble Lord knows. That is not in Treasury rules and...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c256GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for that response. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendmen...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c247GC (Link to this contribution) I am content with my noble friend’s response. I beg leave to withdraw my opposition to Clause 5. Cl...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c246-7GC (Link to this contribution) The clause amends the definition of ““development agreement”” which, as my noble friend has observed...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c245GC (Link to this contribution) I think we need to go back to first principles. This Government rescued this project. If it had not ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c241-2GC (Link to this contribution) Basically the noble Lord is asking whether the obligations are the same as in the Network Rail licen...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c241GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for that full answer. He mentioned that the contents of Network Rai...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c242GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my noble friend. I think that we should probably exchange correspondence and h...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c238-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: 3: Clause 2, leave out Clause 2 and insert the following new Clause— ““Repe...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c239-40GC (Link to this contribution) I support what has just been said. On the rest of the railway, the Rail Regulator would be the perso...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c240GC (Link to this contribution) I did not mention anything about access charges in this amendment, and I do not see anything in Sect...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c253-4GC (Link to this contribution) We have been over this territory before, but it is perhaps worth setting it out some more. The Bill ...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c253GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend. He would be very wise to use some of the ORR expertise for some of...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c253GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: 8: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Separation of infrast...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c249-50GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6: 6: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Charging (1) The Rail...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c250-1GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord will know, access charges for HS1 must be set in accordance with the charging fram...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c248GC (Link to this contribution) Is this not just going back to the point that if the Rail Regulator was responsible, the infrastruct...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 699 c225GC (Link to this contribution) If there is a Division in the Chamber, whoever is speaking at the time will be asked to stop and we ...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c228GC (Link to this contribution) I return to the points raised by the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley. It appears that the Bill, which I ha...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c228-9GC (Link to this contribution) That may be the case. On the other hand, because it is the Government here it may actually require t...
Lord Dykes | 699 c229-30GC (Link to this contribution) I rise briefly in support of the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, and endorsed b...
Lord Hanningfield | 699 c234GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Minister did not intend it but I think he has added to the slight confusion among...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c234GC (Link to this contribution) I am anything but satisfied with what the Minister has said because he has not demonstrated to me wh...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c235-6GC (Link to this contribution) I think noble Lords are making too much of this. I have checked the record of what I said at Second ...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c236GC (Link to this contribution) I grateful to my noble friend. We have had a good debate and we need to reflect on what has been sai...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c237-8GC (Link to this contribution) There is a danger of course that one will repeat observations made at Second Reading. The capacity a...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c246GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 5 concerns Section 56 of the 1996 Act, which is full of definitions. As all the other definit...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c246GC (Link to this contribution) We have had a good discussion on this amendment. Before I withdraw it, which, of course, I will, I r...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c251GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that explanation and beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendme...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c251-2GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7: 7: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Role of Secretary of ...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c249GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend and the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, for their comments. I particular...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c247GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: 5: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Network statements (1...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c247-8GC (Link to this contribution) I want to think carefully about what the noble Lord has said. I think that we may be working at slig...
Lord Hanningfield | 699 c226-7GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 2 is coupled with Amendment No. 1. It is on a slightly different issue on which I have...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c230-2GC (Link to this contribution) I was going to offer the noble Earl, Lord Attlee, the opportunity to speak because everybody else ha...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c233-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for his response but I would like a little more clarification on a ...
Earl of Mar and Kellie | 699 c233GC (Link to this contribution) I want to check that the Bill does not in any way box in international services to the stretch from ...
Lord Hanningfield | 699 c236-7GC (Link to this contribution) I have chosen to oppose this clause standing part of the Bill in order to continue the discussion th...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c243GC (Link to this contribution) The points made by the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, are very pertinent. In the end, people and freight...
Earl Attlee | 699 c245GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister said he is doing his best with freight. Can he tell the Committee roughly how many frei...
Earl Attlee | 699 c243GC (Link to this contribution) When the Minister comes to respond, I hope that he will be able to tell the Committee whether he is ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c240GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, has explained his amendment very well. The combined effect of the ame...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c240-1GC (Link to this contribution) My guess is that it is the interaction of different clauses that puts that in place. Let me take the...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c254-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: 9: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Access agreements (1)...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c252-3GC (Link to this contribution) In these debates, there is the risk of repetition in the moving and responding speeches, and I apolo...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 699 c248-9GC (Link to this contribution) Noble Lords have been banging on about this issue all afternoon, but the arguments do not get any mo...
Lord Bradshaw | 699 c249GC (Link to this contribution) Possibly the Minister’s reply has elevated what I call the protection of the back of the Secretary o...
Lord Berkeley | 699 c225-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 4, leave out ““or railway services on it”” The n...
Subjects
Access Construction Channel tunnel Cooperation High Speed 1 line Finance Fees and charges Licensing EU law Infrastructure High speed trains Railway network Network Rail Regulation Subsidies Eurostar London and Continental Railways Office of Rail Regulation Waterloo Station
Legislation
Channel Tunnel Rail Link (Supplementary Provisions) Bill 2007-08
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