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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 12 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

Energy Bill

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
702 c249-302GC 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Related items
Petroleum Act 1998
Thursday, 11 June 1998
Public acts
Draft Marine Bill. With explanatory notes and impact assessment.
Thursday, 3 April 2008
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Lord Teverson | 702 c297GC (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree, but moving in to auctioning allocations, particularly in the power industry, wil...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c297GC (Link to this contribution) The Financial Times article to which I referred states that, "““the European Union's trading scheme ...
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Lord Bach | 702 c281-2GC (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord whose comments, which displayed his obvious expertise, cer...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c287GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Teverson, has put his finger on an important point of drafting. It reminds me o...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c285-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his detailed response. I will study it carefully. In the mean time, while r...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c260GC (Link to this contribution) I would be very careful what I would ever say about our regulators; I think that the regulators that...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c256-8GC (Link to this contribution) I cannot give a direct answer, except to say that it would be surprising to make my contribution in ...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c267GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Davies, very much for the time and trouble he has taken to allay not on...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c272GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply, and for his reply to the question of the noble Lord, Lord Redesd...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c295-7GC (Link to this contribution) There has been quite a lot of discussion about ““pre”” and post-combustion technology. I share the v...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c290-1GC (Link to this contribution) I oppose this amendment, but not because I disagree with the pursuit of carbon capture and storage t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c298-301GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all Members of the Committee who have spoken on this humble amendment, which has co...
Lord Teverson | 702 c297GC (Link to this contribution) Without going back over the Climate Change Bill, perhaps I can point out where the noble Lord, Lord ...
Lord Oxburgh | 702 c281GC (Link to this contribution) I intervene to clarify one or two issues. I declare an interest as president of the Carbon Capture a...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c282GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lords, Lord Teverson and Lord Woolmer, for their contributions and the important q...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c279-80GC (Link to this contribution) Although this will come up in a debate on a later amendment, deep underground depositories of carbon...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c280GC (Link to this contribution) I was extremely surprised—maybe I misheard or misunderstood him—when the noble Lord said that EU law...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c278GC (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, it is, in principle, possible to have carbon storage on the floor of the ocean, ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c289GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord's interpretation is not quite right. If he looks again at the clause, he will find th...
Lord Teverson | 702 c289GC (Link to this contribution) I do not remember—I may have missed it—getting an answer to my question on an authority's conflict o...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c286GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: Clause 31, page 17, line 21, at end insert ““and about the examination...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c250-1GC (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment and very much endorse what my noble friend has said from the Front Bench abo...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c249-50GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause— ““Annual gas storage re...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c253GC (Link to this contribution) I oppose the amendment, not because I do not want information but because the information is already...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c254GC (Link to this contribution) I also convey my best wishes to the noble Lord, Lord Jones of Birmingham, and hope that he can join ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c260-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Clause 4, page 3, line 42, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of State s...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c259-60GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his carefully considered answer to our first question. I am enormously well...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c264-5GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3: 3: Clause 8, page 5, line 8, at end insert ““, or ( ) has a decommissioning...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c264GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that reply. Our intention in these amendments was not to impose a rigid bur...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c265-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to both noble Lords who spoke on the amendment. I agree entirely with the noble Barone...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c267-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4: 4: Clause 8, page 5, line 15, at end insert— "““( ) A person guilty of an of...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c268-70GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, for raising these important issues and I hope that...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c270-1GC (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend does so, perhaps I may ask the Minister one question. He indicated that he th...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c276-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: 9: Clause 20, page 11, line 23, at end insert— ““( ) provision about obliga...
Viscount Ullswater | 702 c276GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned for 10 minutes. [The Sitting was suspended from 4.01 pm to 4.11 pm.]...
Lord Bach | 702 c275-6GC (Link to this contribution) That is not so immediately the store becomes too full, as it were. There will be an obligation on th...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c275GC (Link to this contribution) To clarify that, in this particular kind of investment, the businesses that are properly meeting our...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c271GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, I think, to the noble Lord. I respect the point he made. We would use Clause 5(b), bu...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c274GC (Link to this contribution) Like the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, I, too, look forward to the discussions on the new clause amendmen...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c273GC (Link to this contribution) I shall want to comment on carbon capture and storage, but I shall reserve that for a debate that wi...
Lord Oxburgh | 702 c292-3GC (Link to this contribution) I believe that the carbon capture and storage competition was driven not by any urge to wrap a Union...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c289GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his response to the amendment. I will consider it carefully. Like my noble ...
Lord Bach | 702 c302GC (Link to this contribution) It may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until next Thursday at 2 pm.
Lord Bach | 702 c280GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord. I will come back to him. On international treaties, Norway has alr...
Lord Bach | 702 c278-9GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord De Mauley, has raised an important issue. I shall try to explain why we have dr...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c288-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend, who, as ever, is knowledgeable about these matters and has identif...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c287-8GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to noble Lords for contributing and I shall be even more grateful when I have an answe...
Lord Teverson | 702 c286GC (Link to this contribution) I welcome the questions put by the noble Lord, Lord De Mauley. I should like to ask for some help fr...
Lord Bach | 702 c283-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for moving his amendment and speaking to the others. In keeping with...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c251-3GC (Link to this contribution) I hope I am not quoting too copiously; I have referred only to two tables, and that is all I am goin...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c253-4GC (Link to this contribution) Yes, there is. It is not all that helpful because when there is a crisis the country just about runs...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c261-2GC (Link to this contribution) We support the principle of these amendments. Energy policy of course interacts with environmental p...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c260GC (Link to this contribution) If we are entrusting the work to British civil servants, given their record and the ability of polit...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c258-9GC (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend does that—and, after all, as we are in Grand Committee she cannot do anything...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c256GC (Link to this contribution) The Minister has given us interesting figures about the number of projects that are in the pipeline,...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c254-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken to the amendment. I am particularly grateful for th...
Lord Bach | 702 c276GC (Link to this contribution) I have not done this before, but I understand that in Grand Committee it is now usual to invite the ...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c276GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. I listened to it very carefully, and I was pleasantly surprised ...
Lord Bach | 702 c276GC (Link to this contribution) The best answer that I can give to that today is to say that there will, no doubt, be examination an...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c272-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: 8: Clause 20, page 11, line 15, after ““holder”” insert ““following consult...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c271GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for that. I recognise that the noble Lord has genuine anxiety about this. When I said th...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c271GC (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord for that. No doubt he will write to me before Report as I ...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c291-2GC (Link to this contribution) Well, some of the companies were doing it. The noble Lord shakes his head but some of the companies ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c293-4GC (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to add anything after the words of the noble Lord, Lord Oxburgh, on this. I understand th...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c294GC (Link to this contribution) I am not clear about what the noble Lord said about coal generation. Was it combined heat and power ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c294-5GC (Link to this contribution) I should have made it clear that I was talking about two different technologies. The main use of thi...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c289-90GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15: 15: Before Clause 32, insert the following new Clause— ““Capture of carbon...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 702 c302GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until next Thursday at 2 pm.
Lord Redesdale | 702 c301-2GC (Link to this contribution) The debate has been rather wider than I expected and has riled some noble Lords. The noble Lord, Lor...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c298GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the noble Lord, Lord Redesdale, will be grateful, as we all are, for the intervention...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c298GC (Link to this contribution) So that the Minister can respond to a variation on the point of the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, one w...
Lord De Mauley | 702 c282-3GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11: 11: Clause 29, page 16, line 8, at end insert ““unduly”” The noble Lord s...
Lord Teverson | 702 c280-1GC (Link to this contribution) I remember playing a part in the landfill directives many years ago. This is part of the law of unin...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c288GC (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister clarify the question of payment? It was raised, but he has not really addressed it...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c250GC (Link to this contribution) I support the spirit of the amendment. I also echo the noble Baroness's words about the noble Lord, ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 702 c253GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord will of course recognise that there is a government-imposed minimum storage requireme...
Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 702 c251GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. I am listening with interest to what he is telling u...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c259GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord. My surprise at his reference to carbon storage did not arise becaus...
Lord Bach | 702 c262-4GC (Link to this contribution) I was slightly shocked when I saw the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, come in with such a heavy collectio...
Lord Teverson | 702 c265GC (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Wilcox, on this amendment. You look at the Bill and see para...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c268GC (Link to this contribution) I have a brief question on these amendments. As we are talking about very large contracts, is it a p...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 702 c276GC (Link to this contribution) To press the matter, for clarification, how many years do the Government have in mind? That is not i...
Lord Teverson | 702 c277-8GC (Link to this contribution) This is an interesting and important amendment. It would amend subsection (3), which starts, ““A lic...
Lord Bach | 702 c274-5GC (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate. Let me deal first with what Clause 20 ...
Lord Redesdale | 702 c273GC (Link to this contribution) We support the amendment. Although CO2 has been pumped into the North Sea over many years to recover...
Baroness Wilcox | 702 c272GC (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause 8 agreed to. Clause...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 702 c272GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise if I referred to that Act at least twice in my responses to the noble Baroness's amendme...
Subjects
Disclosure of information Decommissioning Carbon dioxide Carbon capture and storage Commercial secrets Licensing Inspections Environment protection Energy Industrial accidents EU emissions trading scheme Natural gas Offshore industry Storage Seas and oceans Carbon emissions
Legislation
Energy Bill 2007-08
Draft Marine Bill
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