Debate on bill on Tuesday, 8 July 2008, in the House of Lords, led by Lord West of Spithead. The answering member was Baroness Neville-Jones.
Counter-Terrorism Bill
Counter-Terrorism Bill. Lords second reading debate. Agreed to on question and committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
Secondary information
- Type
- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 703 c632-740
- Session
- 2007-08
- Department
- Home Office
- Legislative stage
- Second reading
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Lords chamber
- Related items
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Counter-Terrorism Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 65-EN also published.
Thursday, 12 June 2008
Bills
House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Baroness Manningham-Buller | 703 c647 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted to be in your Lordships’ House. I thank noble Lords for the very warm welco...
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Lord West of Spithead | 703 c740 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I most certainly will do that. I was about to mention the talk on the Clapham omnibus. Cle...
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Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 703 c739-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord has not dealt with my point that the Explanatory Notes give no clue about t...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 703 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I adjourn the House, I should give an enormous thanks to all noble Lords who have p...
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Lord West of Spithead | 703 c739 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is difficult to answer because I would tread into areas where I may say things that I...
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Lord West of Spithead | 703 c739 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord if I got the wrong end of that, but there has been reference...
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Lord Dear | 703 c739 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for the sake of the record, I was not comparing Nazi Germany with this country. I was mere...
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Lord West of Spithead | 703 c734-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had a fascinating and very constructive debate this afternoon and evening. Noble L...
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Baroness Neville-Jones | 703 c737 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we appear to agree on the principle of not doing the terrorists’ work, but the sentiment i...
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Lord West of Spithead | 703 c738-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that would be totally bonkers. I do not know where the two-to-one prediction comes from. I...
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Baroness Hanham | 703 c731-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been an astounding debate, because many views expressed across the House have not...
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Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 703 c728-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had about as powerful a series of speeches laying out the principle of the Bill as...
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Lord Maginnis of Drumglass | 703 c727-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I recently had the privilege to be permitted to visit our troops in Helmand province ...
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Lord Soley | 703 c724-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, some months ago in a debate in this House I suggested to the Government that we should ado...
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Lord Monson | 703 c722-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the majority of noble Lords who have spoken today, I shall confine my remarks to the ...
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Lord Young of Norwood Green | 703 c720-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller, on her maiden speech, which com...
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Lord Lyell | 703 c717-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we keep hearing the figure of 42 days for detention. I take your Lordships back 36 years, ...
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Lord Joffe | 703 c716-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will focus only on the proposed extension of the maximum period of detention by a furthe...
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Lord Mackenzie of Framwellgate | 703 c714-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is with a sense of trepidation that I address your Lordships’ House this evening, as I ...
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 703 c700-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two speeches prepared: one on post-charge questioning and the other on 42 days. I t...
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Lord Judd | 703 c698-700 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, techniques of terrorism cannot be disinvented. The challenge is to contain and minimise th...
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Lord Cope of Berkeley | 703 c704-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciated that last point because we lived in Berkeley for several years. I shall com...
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Baroness Mallalieu | 703 c702-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot help feeling that something has gone badly wrong. If someone had told me in 1997 ...
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Baroness Stern | 703 c708-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am a member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights and want to confine my contribution t...
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Lord Morris of Aberavon | 703 c706-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I intend to concentrate on the most controversial aspect of the Bill—the 42 days’ detentio...
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Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 703 c712-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am tempted to say that we have reached the stage of the debate where most of what needs ...
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Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 703 c710-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for more than six years, I was Lord Advocate in Scotland. As such, I was for the most part...
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Lord Dholakia | 703 c695-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to concentrate on two issues, neither of which contains any legal arguments: the ro...
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Lord Ahmed | 703 c692-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is no doubt in my mind that we have to defend our country and its citizens against t...
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Lord Dubs | 703 c691-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am privileged to follow the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mayhew, even if he took from my...
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Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 703 c683-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I cannot resist saying how delicious it is to have the noble and learned Lords, Lord Falco...
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Lord Goodhart | 703 c681-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, who has spoken today with all his u...
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Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 703 c679-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is my privilege to continue my long-standing interest in this matter by serving current...
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Baroness Park of Monmouth | 703 c677-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have had to do a little rewriting—I hope that I can read it. I listened with great respe...
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Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 703 c689-91 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate has been dominated so strongly by the 42 day issue that it is tempting to choo...
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Lord Brett | 703 c688-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise as the least qualified person to participate in this debate. I have no expertise in...
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Lord Sewel | 703 c687-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the last time we debated pre-charge detention I moved the 60-day amendment, and lost, so I...
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Lord Steyn | 703 c686-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not spoken in a general debate since I made my maiden speech in May 1995. Rightly o...
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Lord Imbert | 703 c670-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise. The only excuse I can offer is that reaching for my notes is sometimes diffic...
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Lord Bach | 703 c671 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord again, and do so with great reluctance. Yet it is u...
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Bishop of Leicester | 703 c663-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there are those, I understand, who from time to time assert that the Church of England spe...
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Lord Harris of Haringey | 703 c665-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by declaring an interest as the Home Secretary’s representative on the Metropolita...
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Lord Howarth of Newport | 703 c671-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, during the four years in which I served on the parliamentary Intelligence and Security Com...
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Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 703 c673-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in her excellent maiden speech, the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller, said that ther...
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Lord Condon | 703 c675-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as a former police commissioner I support the aims of the Bill and most of its proposals. ...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 703 c741-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, state opening has indeed been announced. It will take place on 4 December. I always get th...
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Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 703 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I look forward to taking part in October and November. Will we be going into December as w...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 703 c742 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I imagine that our debate on 42 days will take place on the second day of Committee, which...
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Lord Thomas of Gresford | 703 c742 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can the noble Baroness tell us when we are likely to be dealing with the 42-day issue? Tha...
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Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale | 703 c648-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I now turn to the Bill. It is beyond doubt that we are being threatened now by forces of t...
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Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 703 c650-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was delighted and privileged to hear the maiden speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Manni...
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Lord Robertson of Port Ellen | 703 c651-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my congratulations to the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller, who has joined us ...
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Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale | 703 c648 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it gives me great pleasure to congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller, on ...
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Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 703 c653-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like everyone else, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller, on a memora...
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Lord Goldsmith | 703 c655-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for over six years I had the privilege and burden of dealing with the issues with which yo...
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Lord Dear | 703 c657-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like other Members of your Lordships' House, I too will concentrate my remarks on the prop...
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Bishop of Chelmsford | 703 c660-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the night of 10 September 2001, my wife and I were on a plane from Washington to London...
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Lord West of Spithead | 703 c632-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill be now read a second time. We face an unprecedented terroris...
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 703 c645-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I completely accept that it was in place at that time. The extent to which it could be use...
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Lord Falconer of Thoroton | 703 c644-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I look forward keenly to the maiden speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Manningham-Buller. ...
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Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 703 c645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, at that stage supported the 90 days, but, even then, the 2004 test for threshold c...
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Baroness Neville-Jones | 703 c637-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let me make it clear that we on these Benches take the terrorist threat to this country ev...
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Lord Thomas of Gresford | 703 c641-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in October 1963, the Tryweryn dam and reservoir were opened in the heart of mid-Wales by t...
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Lord Imbert | 703 c667-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when Members of another place and your Lordships’ House insist that the 28-day extension p...
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Lord Bach | 703 c670 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord. The House is trying to have speeches no more than ...
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Lord Clinton-Davis | 703 c719-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Lyell, equated the situation that we now face with that in Northern I...
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Lord Sheikh | 703 c661-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this Bill contains points that raise significant concern. The key concern is the period of...
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Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 703 c739 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the nature of the questions from both Front Benches and around the House, could the ...
- Subjects
- Crime prevention Criminal investigation Crime Administration of justice Detainees Coroners Finance Facilities Police Powers Natural gas Sentencing Terrorism Security
- Legislation
- Counter-terrorism Bill 2007-08
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