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Debate on Friday, 6 November 2009, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Drayson. The answering member was Lord Astor of Hever.


Armed Forces: Future Defence Policy

Lords debate on motion to take note of matters relating to Her Majesty's Armed Forces and of future defence policy.


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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
714 c501-74 
Session
2008-09
Department
Ministry of Defence
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Deposited Paper DEP2009-2915
Friday, 6 November 2009
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Deposited Paper DEP2009-2900
Friday, 6 November 2009
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Drayson | 714 c574 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for making that point and for the opportunity to confirm the imp...
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 714 c574 (Link to this contribution) There has been no mention yet about the losses in Iraq. Can I at least invite the Minister to pass o...
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Lord Drayson | 714 c574 (Link to this contribution) I will write to the noble and gallant Lord with an answer to that question. Motion agreed.
Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank | 714 c574 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister tell me when we can expect an answer and a reaction to the report and assessment m...
Lord Drayson | 714 c572-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, asked a specific question relating to pilots. I can confirm ...
Earl of Onslow | 714 c568 (Link to this contribution) If that is the case—and I completely accept that it is—why on earth was the speech leaked? It was le...
Lord Drayson | 714 c567-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have heard many thoughtful and wise contributions in the House today. I truly expected ...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 714 c569-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the subject of helicopters, I asked the Minister one question. The noble and gallant Lo...
Lord Drayson | 714 c568-9 (Link to this contribution) Having been on the receiving end of a leak earlier this week, I know exactly what the noble Earl mea...
Lord Astor of Hever | 714 c564-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by sending my condolences, and those of my party, to the families and friends of W...
Lord Addington | 714 c562-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate is one of those where a summing-up is either a joy because you have so much to...
Lord Astor of Hever | 714 c566-7 (Link to this contribution) Well, my Lords, the HCDC report on helicopter capability in July this year showed that the UK Armed ...
Earl Attlee | 714 c560-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for introducing the debate. I declare an interest as I am a ...
Lord Walker of Aldringham | 714 c558-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I count myself among those who have serious misgivings about the success of our last two d...
Lord Burnett | 714 c572 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may put on the record how grateful the personnel at Royal Marines Poole were to ...
Lord Drayson | 714 c571-2 (Link to this contribution) I am coming on to answer the noble Lord’s point. The noble Earl, Lord Onslow, the noble Lords, Lord...
Lord Marlesford | 714 c571 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord may not be able to deal with the helicopters—
Lord Drayson | 714 c571 (Link to this contribution) I think that my noble friend is alluding to the point that several military commanders—this includes...
Baroness Thornton | 714 c571 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that it is necessary to move on with the ministerial speech.
Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank | 714 c570 (Link to this contribution) If I may say so, that is an extraordinary remark. We are now talking about—
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 714 c570 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister agree that it is a bit of a distraction constantly to see the supply of more helic...
Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank | 714 c570 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, after eight years we are still talking about the same thing. Why can it not be done more q...
Lord Drayson | 714 c570 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will certainly write to noble Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord King, requests. I will make...
Earl of Stair | 714 c536-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join many others in their appreciation of the sacrifice of members of the Armed Forces r...
Earl of Onslow | 714 c538-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when the noble Baroness, Lady D’Souza, spoke, she said that everyone would mention Afghani...
Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank | 714 c523-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare two interests. I am a non-executive director of a defence company and an adviser...
Baroness Park of Monmouth | 714 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Freeman has already said much of what I should like to say far better...
Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 714 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by declaring interests. I work for two defence contractors, one an American one, a...
Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 714 c525-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner, mentioned the article in the Guardian by my good friend ...
Lord Burnett | 714 c531-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the House and the country are united in their admiration and gratitude to all personnel in...
Lord Marlesford | 714 c528-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, almost all informed commentators know that the political strategy in Afghanistan is failin...
Baroness Seccombe | 714 c534-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one of the days in my life that I will never forget is 12 October, the day we returned fro...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 714 c532-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had the privilege of visiting Afghanistan as part of a parliamentary delegation just 12 ...
Lord Selsdon | 714 c556-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, ""If ye break the faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flander...
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 714 c546-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must declare a number of honorary responsibilities with regard to the focus of my remark...
Lord James of Blackheath | 714 c544-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, helicopters have been a recurring theme throughout this morning, and I apologise for them ...
Lord Sheikh | 714 c542-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by saying that members of the Armed Forces have to carry out the commands of their...
Lord Inge | 714 c541-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister may have wanted a debate on the future defence policy of this nation, but I h...
Lord Soley | 714 c554-6 (Link to this contribution) In view of the recent losses of life in Afghanistan, it is probably inevitable that we spend a lot o...
Earl of Shrewsbury | 714 c552-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to participate in this important debate. I declare an interest a...
Lord De Mauley | 714 c550-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as a former commanding officer of a Territorial Army regiment, and a member of its executi...
Lord Boyce | 714 c548-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a non-executive director of VT Group and Atkins plc. I am also co...
Lord Lyell | 714 c539-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in today’s debate one conscript follows another, as it were, in that I think my noble frie...
Lord Drayson | 714 c501 (Link to this contribution) That this House takes note of matters relating to Her Majesty's Armed Forces and of future defence p...
Lord King of Bridgwater | 714 c505-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I join the Minister in paying tribute to those who have, sadly, lost their lives and to th...
Lord Freeman | 714 c520-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as UK president of the Council of Reserve Forces’ and Cadets’ Associations in the United K...
Lord Craig of Radley | 714 c518-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in his Statement about the Bernard Gray review on defence acquisition, Mr Ainsworth said o...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 714 c518 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I noted that the time limit is advisory, but it is the House that has made the decision ab...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 714 c518 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether I could remind noble Lords about the advisory speaking time.
Lord Marlesford | 714 c518 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not believe that the people of this country would think well of the House of Lords if...
Lord Sterling of Plaistow | 714 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my voice to those who have expressed sympathy for all those who have died, and parti...
Baroness D'Souza | 714 c511-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on behalf of the Cross Benches, I add to the tributes that have already been paid. This d...
Bishop of Bath and Wells | 714 c513-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, from these Benches I, too, express our condolences to the families of those who lost their...
Lord Lee of Trafford | 714 c508-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I first enjoin these Benches in the earlier tribute. I also declare a number of shareholdi...
Lord Drayson | 714 c570 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the point that the noble and gallant Lord makes. However, I did not quote a f...
Lord Drayson | 714 c501-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the opportunity to open this debate, but, first, I am sure that noble Lo...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 714 c516-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate is important because it comes when the country has been at war in Afghanistan ...
Subjects
Armed forces Defence Accidents Defence equipment Finance Helicopters National security Nuclear weapons Peacekeeping operations Procurement Military aircraft Terrorism Training Safety Afghanistan Territorial Army al Qaeda Taliban Nimrod aircraft Post-traumatic stress disorder
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