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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 1 March 2011, in the House of Lords.

Pensions Bill [HL]

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Parliamentary proceeding
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725 c109-62GC 
Session
2010-12
Department
Department for Work and Pensions
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Committee stage
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New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c138GC (Link to this contribution) Except that the point established by my noble friend Lady Drake and others is that the cuts, if you ...
Lord Flight | 725 c130GC (Link to this contribution) I echo the comments of the noble Baroness. One of our failings as a people is that, because people a...
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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c155GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lady Drake and I have put our name to this amendment because we support it...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 725 c162GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Thursday at 2pm...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c115-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like everyone else who has spoken, I support the amendment of my noble friend. We all agre...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c109GC (Link to this contribution) 1: Clause 1, page 1, line 6, leave out ““December 1953”” and insert ““April 1955””
Baroness Pitkeathley | 725 c109GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting in Committee, we will adjourn a...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 725 c111GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should point out that, if this amendment is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 1A, for reas...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c109-11GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take this opportunity to thank the Minister and his team, who have been very helpful and...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 725 c114GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord McKenzie with regard to this section of the Bill. I have re...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c111-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may respond to the very helpful introduction by the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie of...
Lord German | 725 c114-5GC (Link to this contribution) There is a general sense that there is a group of people who are being treated unfairly because of t...
Baroness Murphy | 725 c114GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much support the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, but I have to say I am...
Baroness Drake | 725 c118-20GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support Amendment 1 and others in the group in the name of my noble friend Lord McKenzie...
Lord Freud | 725 c137GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, for tabling this amendment and the noble Baroness, Lady Drake...
Baroness Drake | 725 c133-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 11. I return to the principle that the manner and timing o...
Lord Freud | 725 c137-8GC (Link to this contribution) Yes, but it is being pulled together for men. That is the point of the 1995 proposition and, now, th...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c137GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, do we not already do this for men?
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c138GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Lord will allow me to quote from the Strategic Review of Health Inequalities in En...
Lord Freud | 725 c138GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for saving my team from having to write a letter, given that she has isol...
Lord Freud | 725 c139GC (Link to this contribution) I need to come back to the point that working-age support systems are much better systems of support...
Baroness Drake | 725 c139-40GC (Link to this contribution) I shall try to pick up some of the points put by the noble Lord, Lord Freud. This amendment breaks t...
Lord Skelmersdale | 725 c140GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have received a request for a rapid break for nefarious purposes. Therefore the Committe...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c143-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I endorse the amendment and the thinking of my noble friend Lord German. As we begin to mo...
Lord German | 725 c141-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a trustee of a pension fund for the National Assembly for Wales. ...
Lord German | 725 c140GC (Link to this contribution) 8: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Additional financial support for certain women...
Baroness Drake | 725 c146GC (Link to this contribution) I would like to comment on Amendment 8, tabled in the name of the noble Lords, Lord German and Lord ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c145GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the thrust of the amendments in much the same way as has the noble Lord, Lord Bo...
Lord Freud | 725 c146-7GC (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend Lord German for tabling the amendment. We have covered a lot of the ground i...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c148-9GC (Link to this contribution) For noble Lords who were anticipating a debate around PUCODIs, I advise them not to blink. This is j...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c149GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, has been kind enough both to mention my name and to tempt m...
Lord German | 725 c147-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I started writing this amendment, I was trying to answer what seemed to me a fairly s...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c148GC (Link to this contribution) 12: Clause 2, page 3, line 8, after ““force”” insert ““or 6th April 2012, whichever is the later””
Baroness Turner of Camden | 725 c125GC (Link to this contribution) 6: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Revision of increase in pensionable age for me...
Lord Freud | 725 c124GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, for that. I have to confess that I was not aware ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c123-4GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to push the noble Lord again about the timescale. I think that there has been unanimit...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c124-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank every noble Lord who has spoken in what has been a well informed debate. When I he...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c122GC (Link to this contribution) That means that a man who is currently on pension credit, who qualifies for it shortly after his 60t...
Lord Freud | 725 c120-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of the amendments moved by the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, is to delay any chan...
Lord Freud | 725 c122-3GC (Link to this contribution) The point is that once you are on the system there is a gradual move up, so you do not bounce on and...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 725 c125-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am attempting to follow on from what I said at Second Reading, when we discussed the Bil...
Baroness Drake | 725 c126-7GC (Link to this contribution) I express my sympathy with the sentiments that concern my noble friend Lady Turner in her amendment....
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c132GC (Link to this contribution) Given that the Minister referred to last year’s Marmot report on health, can he confirm that it foun...
Lord Freud | 725 c131-2GC (Link to this contribution) There are only two experts in the room on PUCODIs. On the serious point, simplicity is really impor...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c131GC (Link to this contribution) We are in a heightened state of expectancy.
Lord Freud | 725 c130-1GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, for tabling this amendment and for giving us the opportunit...
Baroness Murphy | 725 c129-30GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, one cannot help but sympathise with the case put forward by the noble Baroness, Lady Turne...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c128-9GC (Link to this contribution) If I may, I want to use the amendment to raise an issue that has been touched on before but which ne...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c127-8GC (Link to this contribution) I wish briefly to comment on the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Turner. She is on to a substa...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 725 c132-3GC (Link to this contribution) I thank everyone who has contributed to this debate. It has been very useful because, while they did...
Baroness Drake | 725 c133GC (Link to this contribution) 7: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““Qualifying age for pension credit (1) The Secr...
Lord Freud | 725 c132GC (Link to this contribution) I regret that I do not have that figure to hand, but I can provide it later. I am sure that the nobl...
Viscount Ullswater | 725 c162GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until Thursday.
Lord Freud | 725 c149-50GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I really am grateful to the noble Lord for giving me this incredible opportunity to talk a...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c150GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister and the noble Lord, Lord Boswell, for participating and will be delighted to wi...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c150GC (Link to this contribution) 13: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause— ““Right to apply for amalgamation of earnings f...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c151-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the wording of this amendment is reasonably clear and self-explanatory, although I ...
Lord Freud | 725 c155-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, for raising this matter. Clearly th...
Lord Freud | 725 c156-7GC (Link to this contribution) Thank you, cautious is a much better word. It will be somewhat cautious, but I will make a commitmen...
Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 725 c154-5GC (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment. It is related to the amendment that we will discuss in a moment about inclu...
Lord Boswell of Aynho | 725 c153-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall respond briefly to the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, who has performed a service to...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c158-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are back on a couple of probing amendments. In reverse order, Amendment 15 is merely pr...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 725 c157-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was probably superfluous to requirements, but I thank all noble Lords who have taken ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c158GC (Link to this contribution) 14: Schedule 3, page 21, line 4, after ““date”” insert ““, not later than 6th April 2025,””
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c162GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that. I can see that it is meant to be at the start of the tax year. I suppose tha...
Lord Freud | 725 c162GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, as ever, is spot on in his assumption. Yes, it is at the start of the tax year.
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c161GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that response. I rather took from reading the literature that the cash flow issue ...
Lord Freud | 725 c161GC (Link to this contribution) Yes. At the early stages there are some years where the figure peaks at around £210 million and then...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 725 c161GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. I will read the record with interest, but I will certainly w...
Lord Freud | 725 c159-60GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for the opportunities to speak to Amendments 14 and 15, which seek ...
Subjects
Disability Carers Age Women Employment Equality Health Eligibility Employees' contributions Employers' contributions Ethnic groups Earnings rules Pension credit Personal income Workplace pensions Pensions Part-time employment Social security benefits State retirement pensions Life expectancy National employment savings trust scheme
Legislation
Pensions Bill (HL) 2010-12
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