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Armed Forces Bill

Secondary information

Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

684 c1620-40 

Session

2005-06

Department

Ministry of Defence

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Lord Garden | 684 c1629-30 (Link to this contribution) My Amendment No. 26 relates to the maximum sentence available for desertion. I agree with what all n...

Lord Craig of Radley | 684 c1630-2 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to my Amendment No. 27. I find Clause 8 tortuous, with its reliance on the phrase ““...

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Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde | 684 c1632 (Link to this contribution) I have difficulty with Amendments Nos. 24 and 25, because I have difficulty following the logic of w...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c1632-3 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister replies, I would like to make it absolutely clear that my Amendment No. 25 does ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c1629 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Judd, for continuing the debate that we had on Amendment No. 1...

Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 684 c1634 (Link to this contribution) It is difficult not to be repetitious in dealing with this group of amendments, which goes to the qu...

Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde | 684 c1633 (Link to this contribution) I am not a lawyer but my interpretation is that this matter constitutes a rose by any other name. Th...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c1633 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Earl will forgive me if I mention that the person to whom I referred sought to...

Earl Attlee | 684 c1634 (Link to this contribution) I was very tempted to ask about that case and I thought that the noble Lord would intervene in the w...

Lord Craig of Radley | 684 c1625 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that very helpful explanation and I thank all noble Lords who have spoken i...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1625-6 (Link to this contribution) With the indulgence of the Committee, I should like to speak to Amendments Nos. 20 and 21. Those ame...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c1623-4 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether these provisions have been lifted entirely out of the Army Act 1955 or are a n...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1624-5 (Link to this contribution) I believe that I can be helpful on this amendment. The noble and gallant Lord’s Amendment No. 19 wou...

Lord Judd | 684 c1626-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24: Page 5, line 12, at beginning insert ““legal”” The noble Lord said: In mo...

Viscount Slim | 684 c1628-9 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the noble and gallant Lord, Lord Bramall, is not in his place. When I was a very jun...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1626 (Link to this contribution) I would be happy to write to the noble Earl on that point. I am grateful to noble Lords for the care...

Lord Craig of Radley | 684 c1626 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendments Nos. 20 to 22 n...

Lord Garden | 684 c1626 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly disappointed by the Minister's reply to what was, after all, a probing amendment to tr...

Earl Attlee | 684 c1626 (Link to this contribution) The Minister may prefer to write to me on this query. It seems to me that there is an offence of dis...

Lord Craig of Radley | 684 c1620-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19: Page 4, line 12, leave out subsections (1) and (2) and insert- ““(1) Mutin...

Lord Garden | 684 c1621-2 (Link to this contribution) I rise to speak to Amendments Nos. 20 and 21 within this grouping. I fully endorse what the noble an...

Lord Astor of Hever | 684 c1622-3 (Link to this contribution) The noble and gallant Lord Craig has raised an interesting point on the drafting of Clause 6. As he ...

Lord Borrie | 684 c1623 (Link to this contribution) I follow the noble Lord, Lord Astor of Hever, in expressing some surprise that the word ““mutiny”” d...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1640 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lords for making that point, and I shall take it on board in the spirit o...

Baroness Crawley | 684 c1640 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.

Lord Drayson | 684 c1640 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 29 and 30: Page 5, line 23, leave out from beginning to ““if”” and insert ““...

Lord Garden | 684 c1640 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. While he was not available, I objected to the groupings on Friday because...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 684 c1639-40 (Link to this contribution) I have a considerable objection to the groupings. I have no right to complain, because I was not her...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1639 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28: Page 5, line 22, at end insert- ““( ) A person subject to service law comm...

Lord Judd | 684 c1638 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendments Nos. 25 to 27 ...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1635-6 (Link to this contribution) Clause 8 creates the offence of desertion. I think the most helpful thing I can do is deal with all ...

Lord Astor of Hever | 684 c1634-5 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Judd, moved Amendment No. 24 very eloquently, but we cannot support it. I very ...

Lord Drayson | 684 c1638 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend, who presses me to indicate whether I am prepared to reflect furthe...

Lord Judd | 684 c1637-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who participated in this interesting debate. Given the observations...

Lord Craig of Radley | 684 c1637 (Link to this contribution) I thank those who spoke to my Amendment No. 27. I obviously want to read closely what the Minister s...

Lord Garden | 684 c1636-7 (Link to this contribution) I am slightly surprised that the Minister has not addressed the questions about proportionality when...

Earl Attlee | 684 c1633 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Judd, was very beguiling with his amendment about the word ““legal””, but I rep...

Subjects

Disciplinary proceedings Disclosure of information Discipline Crime Armed forces Armed conflict Deployment Courts martial Civilians Desertion International law Officers Terrorism Theft Civil disorder

Legislation

Armed Forces Bill 2005-06

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