Debate on bill on Monday, 15 January 2007, in the House of Commons, led by John Healey. The answering member was Mark Francois.
Planning-gain Supplement (Preparations) Bill
Planning-gain Supplement (Preparations) Bill. Second reading debate. Agreed to on division (291 to 182). Programme motion for proceedings in Committee, on Report and Third reading agreed to on question (formal). Money resolution agreed to on question (formal).
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Planning-gain Supplement (Preparations) Bill . Expanatory notes Bill 37-EN also published
Tuesday, 12 December 2006
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House of Commons
- Proceeding contributions
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John Healey | 455 c563 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman should also study in some detail the pre-Budget report. We have said that...
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Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 455 c563 (Link to this contribution) Let me take the Minister back to the answer that he gave to my hon. Friend the Member for North-West...
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John Healey | 455 c562 (Link to this contribution) In fact, three arguably similar measures have been introduced in the past. I have been keen to make ...
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Lord Redwood | 455 c562 (Link to this contribution) The Minister will save himself some time, and taxpayers some money, if he reads the history of two p...
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John Healey | 455 c561 (Link to this contribution) I am spoiled for choice; I give way to the right hon. Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood).
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John Healey | 455 c561 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman says, it is important that the benefits of development are delivered primarily...
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John Healey | 455 c562-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend chairs the Communities and Local Government Committee and is something of an expert i...
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Phyllis Starkey | 455 c562 (Link to this contribution) May I correct something that the Minister said? There have, in fact, been four previous attempts to ...
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John Healey | 455 c562 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman might not have studied the pre-Budget report of 6 December, in which we mad...
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David Curry | 455 c562 (Link to this contribution) Early in his speech, the Minister said:"““If the Government decide””." He has just now been conditi...
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John Healey | 455 c561 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. This Bill is short and straightforward. It ...
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Speaker | 455 c561 (Link to this contribution) I should inform the House that I have not selected the amendment in the name of the Leader of the Op...
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Lord Bellingham | 455 c561 (Link to this contribution) As the Minister rightly points out, this matter affects all our constituencies. Does he agree that, ...
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John Healey | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) Although we have made it clear that any planning gain supplement would apply to residential and non-...
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Bob Spink | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) Will any future planning gain supplement take account of extraordinary planning and development cost...
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John Healey | 455 c566 (Link to this contribution) The principle and potential of the PGS meets both my hon. Friend’s concerns. First, it is likely to ...
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Harry Cohen | 455 c565-6 (Link to this contribution) Will the Government ensure that arrangements are in place so that constituents affected by the initi...
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John Healey | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) Being a popular figure in the hon. Gentleman’s constituency is not one of my objectives for this Bil...
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John Healey | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) It is indeed. It is not only the level of investment available to support the infrastructure require...
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Andrew Love | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) The House will welcome the comprehensive consultation arrangements that were undertaken before the B...
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Mark Lazarowicz | 455 c566 (Link to this contribution) One of the preparations that will have to be undertaken is consideration of the Bill’s impact on the...
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John Healey | 455 c566 (Link to this contribution) I recognise my hon. Friend’s concern. Given the devolved functions of the Scottish Executive, the us...
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Anne Main | 455 c566 (Link to this contribution) Recommendation 37 of the Select Committee’s report reveals that at least 70 per cent. responded that...
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Nick Raynsford | 455 c564 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. He rightly highlighted local authorities’ variable i...
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John Healey | 455 c564 (Link to this contribution) The sole point of any planning gain supplement would be to raise additional revenue available for in...
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Mark Francois | 455 c564 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for his courtesy in giving way. As we understand it from the associate...
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John Healey | 455 c563-4 (Link to this contribution) I am indeed aware of the various schemes, planning obligations and alternatives to a planning gain s...
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Lord Benyon | 455 c563 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for giving way. Is he aware of schemes run by local authorities to get...
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John Healey | 455 c563 (Link to this contribution) I give way now to the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. Benyon).
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John Healey | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) My prepared remarks deal with that point, because it is a central point and a fair question. However...
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John Bercow | 455 c565 (Link to this contribution) Given that Aylesbury Vale is a designated expansion area, which will be home to a significant increa...
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John Healey | 455 c564 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is right, and he did more than many Ministers to try to ensure that the capacit...
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Lord Cormack | 455 c564 (Link to this contribution) I am impressed by the Financial Secretary’s courtesy and mastery of his brief, but I am also a littl...
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John Healey | 455 c569 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman would probably agree that such decisions are ultimately best and most appropriate...
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John Healey | 455 c569-70 (Link to this contribution) Having tried to be helpful to hon. Members in as precise terms as possible, I regret that I must mak...
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Vincent Cable | 455 c569 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has helpfully crystallised what could otherwise have been an academic and abstract deba...
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John Healey | 455 c570 (Link to this contribution) I will finish my point, if I may, and then I will come to the question that the hon. Gentleman asked...
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John Healey | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) Let me take the hon. Gentleman’s points in order. Those hon. Members who have, so far, indicated tha...
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Lord Cormack | 455 c570-1 (Link to this contribution) The Financial Secretary is speaking with great charm, and he is beguiling and almost converting me, ...
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Clive Betts | 455 c567 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my Friend will not be surprised to learn that, when the Select Committee took evidenc...
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John Healey | 455 c567 (Link to this contribution) I think that the hon. Gentleman might have misheard me. If he checks the record, he will find that I...
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John Healey | 455 c566 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that we could have been clearer: it is the local authority area in which the planning...
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Anne Main | 455 c568 (Link to this contribution) Further to the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Hertford and Stortford (Mr. Prisk) about ...
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John Healey | 455 c568 (Link to this contribution) I know that the hon. Gentleman follows these things well. If he looks at the Valuation Office Agency...
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Mark Prisk | 455 c568 (Link to this contribution) Without wishing to appear a pedant, I want to clarify the basis on which those valuations are made. ...
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John Healey | 455 c567-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has great expertise in this area, not just from his membership of the Communities and...
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John Healey | 455 c568-9 (Link to this contribution) We have indeed. That is one of the areas on which we expect further observations in the consultation...
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Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 455 c569 (Link to this contribution) Clearly, when we talk about the building of new towns and cities, such as Milton Keynes, we think ab...
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John Healey | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) I have broad-ranging responsibilities at the Treasury, but I am glad to say that Home Office IT is n...
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Lord Cormack | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) If the IT system cannot be used, can it be given to the Home Office?
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Andrew Love | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way once again. He has commented on the shortcomings and variabili...
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Mark Francois | 455 c576 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend helps to amplify my point, in considerable detail, from his constituency experience. ...
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Mark Francois | 455 c575-6 (Link to this contribution) The Government have been making it up as they go along, which is why the proposal has been delayed s...
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Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 455 c576 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can help my hon. Friend. Milton Keynes Partnerships—one of the unelected unaccountable qua...
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Mark Francois | 455 c575 (Link to this contribution) One of the problems that we face tonight is that the Government have been short on detail about how ...
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Clive Betts | 455 c575 (Link to this contribution) You are making it up.
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Mark Francois | 455 c575 (Link to this contribution) I shall return the Financial Secretary’s compliment by giving way.
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John Healey | 455 c575 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman accept—if he does not, I would like him to point to a specific reference—tha...
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Mark Francois | 455 c574-5 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for his intervention. It seems to me that the Financial Secretary g...
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Nick Raynsford | 455 c574 (Link to this contribution) A moment ago, the hon. Gentleman argued that the Government proposals would allow resources to be di...
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David Wright | 455 c573 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Mark Francois | 455 c573 (Link to this contribution) In a moment. I shall finish the point. Overall, the Bill looks more and more like yet another Labour...
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David Wright | 455 c573 (Link to this contribution) I have heard the hon. Gentleman on a number of occasions rightly argue for increased infrastructure ...
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Mark Francois | 455 c573-4 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for that intervention. Our argument is that it is right for developers to...
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John Healey | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) I referred earlier to a consultation document, which the hon. Lady may wish to study. She may wish t...
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Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 455 c572 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister, who has been generous in accepting interventions. He will appreciate ...
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John Healey | 455 c572 (Link to this contribution) The planning gain supplement, if we introduce it, is designed to support infrastructure. Clearly, th...
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Mark Francois | 455 c572-3 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased to respond on behalf of Her Majesty’s Opposition. The measure is, in effect, a paving B...
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John Healey | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) I have indeed, and the Government have set out their proposals in various publications. Essentially,...
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David Curry | 455 c591-2 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that the Financial Secretary to the Treasury has just come back to the Chamber, because...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 455 c592 (Link to this contribution) Without getting into the business of licks and promises, is my right hon. Friend aware of any preced...
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Vincent Cable | 455 c586-7 (Link to this contribution) That sounds a plausible example of what I was trying to say and I thank the hon. Gentleman for that ...
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Clive Betts | 455 c587-91 (Link to this contribution) It is important to recognise that the Government have introduced this paving Bill, which provides a ...
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David Curry | 455 c592-5 (Link to this contribution) I cannot answer that with certainty, but I would be surprised if there were major precedents. Seriou...
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Nick Raynsford | 455 c579-83 (Link to this contribution) I declare my interest as an honorary fellow of the Royal Town Planning Institute, vice-president of ...
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Vincent Cable | 455 c584-5 (Link to this contribution) Of course, such matters depend on how such a very big system of taxation is introduced. That is why ...
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Mark Francois | 455 c586 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a reasonable point. Does he agree with the sentiments of Mr. Peter Bill, th...
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Vincent Cable | 455 c583 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow the right hon. Member for Greenwich and Woolwich (Mr. Raynsford). His ex...
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David Curry | 455 c583 (Link to this contribution) I agree that the idea of a land value tax has frequently been discussed, but if there is an old lady...
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David Wright | 455 c578 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give a commitment today that such a system would involve cross-local authori...
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Mark Francois | 455 c578 (Link to this contribution) Hon. Members of all parties accept that there are limitations to the current section 106 agreement p...
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Clive Betts | 455 c578 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the Select Committee’s position was far more logical than his? W...
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Mark Francois | 455 c578 (Link to this contribution) The Government’s proposals do not rule out the section 106 process either. The hon. Gentleman should...
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Clive Betts | 455 c578 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
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Mark Francois | 455 c578-9 (Link to this contribution) No, I have already given way to the hon. Gentleman once. That is the position as outlined by the Gov...
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John Healey | 455 c576 (Link to this contribution) I am concerned in case the hon. Gentleman may mislead people into thinking that this will have a hug...
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Mark Francois | 455 c576 (Link to this contribution) If the Minister really wants to reassure the House about exactly how the PGS will bite, he can end o...
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John Healey | 455 c576 (Link to this contribution) We have consistently made it clear that PGS will be set at a modest level. Decisions on the rate hav...
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Mark Francois | 455 c576-8 (Link to this contribution) I come back to the original point. If the Minister cannot even tell us the rate at which the tax wil...
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Yvette Cooper | 455 c615-6 (Link to this contribution) We have had a good and thoughtful debate on an extremely short Bill. It is remarkable how much we ha...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 455 c612-5 (Link to this contribution) This Second Reading debate has been good humoured, informative and expert. It is unfair to complimen...
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Brian Binley | 455 c612 (Link to this contribution) You are always most welcome in Northampton, South, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If you could give me some dat...
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Speaker | 455 c612 (Link to this contribution) Order. I hope that the hon. Gentleman was not including me in those remarks.
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Brian Binley | 455 c611-2 (Link to this contribution) It is clear that the hon. Gentleman knows more about what will go on behind the Bill than the rest o...
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David Wright | 455 c611 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making the very case for the Bill, is he not? The policy is to ensure that the...
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Brian Binley | 455 c610 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the Minister for not being present for her opening words. May I say that I saw a wedd...
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David Curry | 455 c617 (Link to this contribution) The Minister talked about major developments. What does she mean by ““major””? There are rules that ...
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Yvette Cooper | 455 c616-7 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman has done his homework properly, he will know that Bolton is meeting its housin...
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 455 c616 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for doing her homework so thoroughly. Will she tell me, as a matter of...
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Anne Main | 455 c601-2 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree with that. The PGS did not receive resounding applause from the Select Committee....
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Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 455 c601 (Link to this contribution) Just to confuse my hon. Friend further, does she agree that, following the speech from the Governmen...
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Philip Dunne | 455 c605-7 (Link to this contribution) I remind the House of my entry in the Register of Members’ Interests. I am a district councillor in ...
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Joan Walley | 455 c602-5 (Link to this contribution) Like all the distinguished speakers in this debate, I welcome the opportunity to speak on this pavin...
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Anne Main | 455 c599-601 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Waveney (Mr. Blizzard), particularly given his optimi...
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Bob Blizzard | 455 c596-9 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for Skipton and Ripon (Mr. Curry). When I first hea...
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Anne Main | 455 c607 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend used the phrase ““have a call on””. I asked whether there was any bid process to ask ...
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Philip Dunne | 455 c607-10 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. However, if rural areas suffer development and genera...
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David Wright | 455 c607 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making a constructive speech, and I think that Members of all parties can agre...
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Yvette Cooper | 455 c617-9 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is right. He will know that different local authorities have different arra...
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Mark Prisk | 455 c566-7 (Link to this contribution) On a slightly different note, I know that the Government, in preparing the Bill, cited the possibili...
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Philip Dunne | 455 c607 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for pointing out the difficulty that local communities will face in ...
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Anne Main | 455 c571 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has been generous in accepting interventions. Will valuations through the IT system be ...
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