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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 10 June 2008, in the House of Lords.

Housing and Regeneration Bill

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Parliamentary proceeding
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702 c133-96GC 
Session
2007-08
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Department for Communities and Local Government
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Committee stage
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House of Lords Grand Committee
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Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 702 c145GC (Link to this contribution) As a matter of curiosity, when did this change in behaviour occur? Were it to have occurred during t...
Lord Greaves | 702 c138-41GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 75B: 75B: Clause 22, page 12, line 6, at end insert— ““( ) Local housing autho...
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Lord Greaves | 702 c135GC (Link to this contribution) That will be written down in Hansard and will have to satisfy my noble friend, because it satisfies ...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 702 c157GC (Link to this contribution) The one word in the long list of provisions in Clause 33 that mildly surprises me is ““religious””, ...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c157-8GC (Link to this contribution) What an interesting short debate that was. I take the noble Lord's point. It takes us back a little ...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c159GC (Link to this contribution) I am beginning to wish that the noble Baroness had been detained longer at her conference. She has c...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 702 c159-60GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for having linked me to her observations. I congra...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c158GC (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether I can press the Minister a little further. She has not explained the need to provid...
Viscount Eccles | 702 c158-9GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may add to the comments of the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee. I apologise if drawing on one’...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 702 c161GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned for 10 minutes. [The Sitting was suspended from 5.29 pm to 5.39 pm.]...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c151-2GC (Link to this contribution) I suspected the worst but then, after I had tabled amendments saying that the FOI Act should apply, ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c152GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may make a simple observation. Clause 31 is the precise reason why, on the previous issue,...
Lord Greaves | 702 c154GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 32 concerns the power to form companies and, to a degree, I understand more why this is in th...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c151GC (Link to this contribution) It is very nice to see the noble Baroness in her place. I am sure that she drew on the forensic scru...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c151GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 76A: 76A: Clause 27, page 13, line 38, at end insert ““subject to regulations ...
Lord Greaves | 702 c150-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful again for the Minister’s detailed explanations. She asked me to give reassurances to m...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c150GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that intervention from my noble friend. We might have had a bit more argument in C...
Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde | 702 c150GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the suggestion that the clause does not stand part of the Bill is not pursued. The organ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c149-50GC (Link to this contribution) I have a slightly different concern. Curiously enough, it is rather a relief to see those limits the...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) I was trying to describe the way that the powers would work. Perhaps I was not as precise in my use ...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) To save time later, I want to say that I would not accept the principle—
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the clarification. It does not affect greatly what I was going to say, but it was ...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c165-7GC (Link to this contribution) The amendments have important implications. I shall break the golden rule that seems to have been ad...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c169-70GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 87: 87: Clause 35, page 17, line 4, leave out ““to the person”” and insert ““i...
Lord Greaves | 702 c163-5GC (Link to this contribution) My proposal to oppose Clause 34 is included in this group. Some of the comments made just now by the...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c170-1GC (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether I could ask about the direction, which is the subject of the amendments and of Clau...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c171GC (Link to this contribution) We also have concerns, in particular with Amendment No. 91. If the Homes and Communities Agency is p...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 702 c171-2GC (Link to this contribution) It seems rather curious that the Bill as it stood went through the other place and then Amendment No...
Lord Greaves | 702 c176GC (Link to this contribution) had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 95A: 95A: Clause 41, page 20, line 14, at ...
Lord Greaves | 702 c175-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that reply. I think that I am satisfied, although his last point took us ba...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c185GC (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. Clause 50(2) states: "““The Secretary of State may vary or revoke any suc...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c180GC (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that although to my knowledge there is no planning guidance per se, it would be ...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c189GC (Link to this contribution) Well, it sounds as though the noble Baroness is. We need Amendment No. 97A, simply because many of t...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c190-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 97B to 97N: 97B: Schedule 8, page 188, line 36, at end insert— ““Land Compen...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c135GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 74: 74: Clause 18, page 9, line 20, leave out from ““area”” to end of line 26 ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c135GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 75: 75: Clause 19, page 9, line 31, after ““time”” insert ““on notice as requi...
Lord Greaves | 702 c138GC (Link to this contribution) I am even more mystified as to why the power is required. The Minister confirmed the circumstances i...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c136GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the Minister for the explanation and even more grateful for the fact that he i...
Lord Greaves | 702 c136-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 75A: 75A: Clause 21, page 10, line 40, at end insert— ““( ) The powers in this...
Lord Greaves | 702 c134GC (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to accept what the Minister said on my Amendment No. 73G and hope that he agrees that...
Earl Cathcart | 702 c133GC (Link to this contribution) The clause refers to regional authorities, with which I have a slight problem. In the past we have s...
Lord Greaves | 702 c161GC (Link to this contribution) We are ahead of schedule, in that we are more than half way through the list of amendments. Perhaps ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c153GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 31 enables the Homes and Communities Agency to engage in any business, including commercial u...
Lord Greaves | 702 c153-4GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister although I am not sure that that helps. The power seems very sweeping indeed. T...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c149GC (Link to this contribution) I am happy to respond to this because one needs to explain why it is important to have this in prima...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c148GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the explanation. It comes as no real surprise to me, but I am grateful to the Mini...
Viscount Eccles | 702 c144GC (Link to this contribution) I ask a small technical question. The Minister referred to subsection (1), which relates to a very w...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c144GC (Link to this contribution) As a result of what the noble Baroness said, perhaps I may raise a point that I have raised previous...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c144GC (Link to this contribution) I will deal first with the Treasury point. The answer to the noble Viscount, Lord Eccles, is exactly...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c145GC (Link to this contribution) I cannot answer that, I shall check with my officials and come back and write a letter to the noble ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c145GC (Link to this contribution) The question related to funding for social housing. If that excludes local authorities, so be it, bu...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) I did not wish to imply, in anything that I said, that I did not accept the principle that is being ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) Let me be clear: if the Government move these amendments, we shall be obliged to put amendments down...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c168GC (Link to this contribution) I will come to those words in a moment. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and particula...
Lord Best | 702 c162-3GC (Link to this contribution) Until now I have taken a vow of silence to hasten the passage of the Bill, but this is a point on wh...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c178-80GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord concluded, there is indeed scope for this sort of amendment to other Bills, but I ...
Lord Best | 702 c178GC (Link to this contribution) My name is on the amendment in support of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay. I had to negotiate with N...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c176-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 95F: 95F: Clause 48, page 22, line 21, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of S...
Lord Greaves | 702 c173-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 90B: 90B: Clause 35, page 17, line 16, at end insert— ““( ) Events referred to...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c173GC (Link to this contribution) In that case, it would be wisest for us not to move the whole group rather than just one amendment. ...
Viscount Eccles | 702 c185GC (Link to this contribution) I shall be brief. Clause 50 is another example of belt and braces. In Clause 10, consents are needed...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c185-6GC (Link to this contribution) I can see how the debate fits in with that which we have just had on directions. I stress to the nob...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c182-4GC (Link to this contribution) This is an important debate and I hope that I can reassure the noble Viscount and the noble Baroness...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c182GC (Link to this contribution) We very much support what the noble Viscount just said. I simply make the point that providing for g...
Viscount Eccles | 702 c180-2GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 96: 96: Clause 49, page 23, line 2, leave out ““general or”” The noble Viscou...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c188GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the explanation, but the Minister missed out the explanation for Amendment No. 117...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c188GC (Link to this contribution) He has got you there. I am sorry, but I have some short questions and if they cannot be answered now...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c187-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 97ZD: 97ZD: Schedule 5, page 182, line 30, at end insert— ““In section 72(1)(a...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c189GC (Link to this contribution) I can deal with Amendment No. 97A, but I will have to write on the tax issues because the noble Baro...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c189GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 97ZE to 97ZG: 97ZE: Schedule 6, page 184, line 18, leave out ““the”” and ins...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c142-4GC (Link to this contribution) This is an important area of debate. As the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, said, there was a serious deba...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c135-6GC (Link to this contribution) I shall describe why the amendment is unnecessary and how the clause works. However, the noble Lord’...
Lord Greaves | 702 c134GC (Link to this contribution) Would the Minister like to comment on the government amendment in the group?
Lord Greaves | 702 c133GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 73G: 73G: Clause 18, page 9, line 18, leave out from first ““area”” to end and...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c161-2GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 78: 78: Clause 34, page 15, line 29, at end insert ““or regulated low cost hom...
Lord Greaves | 702 c160-1GC (Link to this contribution) The more I listen to noble Lords the more I believe there are curious things in this clause that I d...
Lord Greaves | 702 c152GC (Link to this contribution) I query what seems to be the extraordinarily far-reaching nature of this clause. It is very short an...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 702 c152GC (Link to this contribution) I share the curiosity of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. Some years ago, when my wife and I were in Sr...
Lord Greaves | 702 c155-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 77A: 77A: Clause 33, page 15, line 11, at end insert ““take any reasonable act...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c154-5GC (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, has anticipated, the explanation in this case is similar to the pre...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c156-7GC (Link to this contribution) Once again, I have some sympathy with the noble Lord, Lord Greaves. Essentially, Clause 33 is in two...
Viscount Eccles | 702 c149GC (Link to this contribution) It seems somewhat odd to refer to an Act from 1985. That Act says, "““shall not exceed £2,500 millio...
Lord Greaves | 702 c148-9GC (Link to this contribution) I speak on behalf of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. She is not in her place because she has not yet re...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c146-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 76: 76: Clause 22, page 12, line 14, leave out subsection (4) and insert— ““( ...
Lord Greaves | 702 c145-6GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to everyone who has taken part and to the Minister for setting out government policy. ...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c147-8GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for the explanation. I thought that that was the intent behind his p...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c145GC (Link to this contribution) The bidding process for housing associations is conducted on an annual basis and there are rolling p...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) No, I accept the principle that I said I accepted. However, I would not accept a principle that incl...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c172GC (Link to this contribution) I hear what Members have to say on this issue. In its broadest terms, I can see why there might be c...
Lord Best | 702 c168GC (Link to this contribution) I am reassured that the Minister will bring something back on Report. I am sure that on careful insp...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 702 c165GC (Link to this contribution) I broadly agree with almost everything that the noble Lord, Lord Best, said and a lot of what my nob...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c180GC (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, responds, I would like to ask the Minister about the point s...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c174-5GC (Link to this contribution) I shall deal with the amendments together. As the noble Lord has explained, Amendment No. 90B would ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c173GC (Link to this contribution) No, we cannot. The Minister should withdraw.
Viscount Eccles | 702 c184GC (Link to this contribution) I would not contest for a moment that there have been similar powers in many Acts of Parliament. How...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 702 c180GC (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for her response and I recognise that other Bills may better fit ...
Viscount Eccles | 702 c186-7GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her answer, and for her answer to the previous amendment. I will read them ...
Baroness Hamwee | 702 c189GC (Link to this contribution) That is kind and I am grateful. I simply record my disagreement about reducing the number from six t...
Baroness Andrews | 702 c189-90GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 97A: 97A: Clause 55, page 25, line 16, at end insert— ““(2) In paragraph 1(1) ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c196GC (Link to this contribution) I was exhausted listening to that. I think that this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 702 c196GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until tomorrow at 3.45 pm.
Lord Dixon-Smith | 702 c141GC (Link to this contribution) I have considerable sympathy with what the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, is saying. This is a classic ex...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c137-8GC (Link to this contribution) This amendment seeks to restrict the power of the HCA to serve a connection notice on the local high...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c135GC (Link to this contribution) This is a technical amendment. I assure the noble Lord that pre-emption does not prevail in this ins...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c134GC (Link to this contribution) Yes. Sorry; I was so enthused by the question. Our Amendment No. 74 clarifies the circumstances in w...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 702 c133-4GC (Link to this contribution) Before I get to this debate itself, I should say that both myself and, in particular, my noble frien...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 702 c133GC (Link to this contribution) If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn as soon as th...
Subjects
Compensation Community development Companies Compulsory purchase Anti-social behaviour Council housing Commission for the New Towns Housing Finance Land Freedom of information Health hazards Electricity Housing associations Hazardous substances Housing Corporation English Partnerships Landlord and tenant Electric cables Evictions Local government Planning Listed buildings New towns Water supply Wales Social rented housing Roads Tenants Rented housing Sewers Regeneration Leukaemia Homes and Communities Agency
Legislation
Housing and Regeneration Bill 2007-08
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