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Debate on bill on Tuesday, 18 November 2008, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Andrews. The answering member was Lord Dixon-Smith.

Planning Bill

Planning Bill. Consent of the Queen and the Prince of Wales signified. Lords third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Bill passed with amendments.

Secondary information

Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
705 c1014-71 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Legislative stage
Third reading
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Related items
Planning Bill. As amended on Report. (vote).
Wednesday, 12 November 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2008-2868
Monday, 24 November 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Duke of Montrose | 705 c1015-17 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 7: 7: Clause 25, page 17, line 19, at end insert ““or a mainline railway betwe...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1017 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare my interest and refer in particular to the fact that I am a solicitor in private...
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Lord Adonis | 705 c1017-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Duke for moving the amendment, which gives us a further opportu...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 705 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have it in command from Her Majesty the Queen and His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1015 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 3 to 6: 3: Clause 12, page 7, line 20, leave out from beginning to end of li...
Duke of Montrose | 705 c1018 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I find it difficult to plough my way through all this, but in the mean time I beg leave to...
Lord Adonis | 705 c1018 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is our contention that the Scottish dimension of any rail infrastructure projects that ...
Earl of Caithness | 705 c1019 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister moves her amendment, will she advise on how the Government will help l...
Baroness Hamwee | 705 c1018-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 8: 8: Clause 60, page 37, line 14, at end insert— ““( ) The deadline shall all...
Duke of Montrose | 705 c1018 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am interested to hear the response of the Minister, but I am still puzzled. One knows pe...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1019-21 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad that the noble Baroness welcomes the amendment. I will put on record some of the...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 705 c1032 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I always enjoy listening to the noble Lord but I remind him that this is Third Reading.
Baroness Hamwee | 705 c1032 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Baroness will forgive me if I do not spend time focusing on her plac...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c1032 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of all the noble Lords who might upbraid me I am perhaps happiest being upbraided by the n...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 705 c1032-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15: 15: Clause 208, page 120, line 35, after ““building”” insert ““excluding b...
Baroness Hamwee | 705 c1035 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, grouped with this amendment is Amendment No. 26 in the name of my noble friend Lord Bradsh...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 705 c1034-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a partner in a business that works in the development area. The n...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 705 c1035-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as a vice-president of the Local Government Association and the Asso...
Lord Bradshaw | 705 c1036 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for my sudden arrival. The points were made perfectly adequately both by my no...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1036-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sure that the noble Lord, Lord Dixon-Smith, feels perfectly justified in bringing the...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c1024-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for reasons that the whole House understands and accepts, the noble Lord, Lord Reay, chose...
Lord Greaves | 705 c1028 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for the amendments. She said that she hopes that I will be reassured ...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1027-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 13: 13: After Clause 138, insert the following new Clause— ““Common land and r...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1027 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11: 11: Clause 104, page 55, line 36, at end insert— ““(9) For the avoidance o...
Lord Chorley | 705 c1026 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Baroness sits down, is she aware that what she has just said is enormousl...
Lord Tyler | 705 c1030 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add a word of congratulation to the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker, and the noble Lord, L...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c1030-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend has indeed allowed the hand of history to touch her shoulder. When it was ...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 14: 14: After Clause 181, insert the following new Clause— ““Good design In se...
Baroness Whitaker | 705 c1029-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on this amendment. I thank her for the exemplary way in whi...
Baroness Hamwee | 705 c1023 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the Government’s amendments. Throughout the passage of this Bill, the Minister h...
Baroness Hamwee | 705 c1021 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I asked for an impossible assurance. I do not know that any Minister could give an assuran...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1021 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 9: 9: Clause 60, page 37, line 15, leave out subsection (6) On Question, amen...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1021-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10: 10: Clause 104, page 55, line 19, leave out ““the following subsections”” ...
Lord Goodhart | 705 c1065 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to make this point. Paragraph (c), which refers to the affirmative resolutio...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1065-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in one sense, that makes my point. If, towards the end of the 60 days within which it can ...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 705 c1066 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is added to this amendment, so I believe that I am entitled to say something, alth...
Baroness Hamwee | 705 c1066 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Boyd of Duncansby, started to give his critique, my he...
Earl of Caithness | 705 c1067 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at Second Reading, I criticised the Minister for excluding this House from looking at the ...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1067-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am well aware of the strong feeling about the role of the House as we have worked throug...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1065 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I say with the greatest respect to the noble Lord that new subsection (3) says: "““During ...
Lord Goodhart | 705 c1065 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps the noble and learned Lord, Lord Boyd, would look—
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take that point; I was referring more to the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart...
Lord Goodhart | 705 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the noble Lord’s position, but I refer him to the super-affirmative provision...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 705 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I did not make it clear, I now make it absolutely clear that I am not seeking in any wa...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1064-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not aware of that provision; the noble Lord has the advantage of me in that respect. ...
Lord Goodhart | 705 c1065 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should have thought it pretty clear that it would not. There is a 60-day period within w...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the super-affirmative provision within the legislative reform procedure is there because w...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, was not a procedure—closely akin to the procedure that the amendment tabled by the noble L...
Lord Goodhart | 705 c1062-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Government have been constructive, through the Minister, in response to many amendment...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c1063 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am extremely glad that the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin, has found a way to bring this import...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1049-55 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have had the hand of history as well as comparisons to a vision of sainthood offered to ...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 705 c1055-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have taken part in this lengthy debate of more than an hour. I wil...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1060 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 22 and 23: 22: Clause 209, page 121, line 40, leave out ““applies only”” and...
Baroness Ford | 705 c1047-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to intervene to say a few words about the state aid legislation. I have enjoyed our...
Lord Geddes | 705 c1048 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to the House for intervening on this important Bill only at this late stage of...
Lord Livsey of Talgarth | 705 c1048 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall comment on Amendment No.16 and others tabled by my noble friend Lord Shutt. I am i...
Baroness Whitaker | 705 c1048-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was puzzled by many of these amendments. I am involved in a number of charities, as is e...
Lord Best | 705 c1045-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two short speeches to make in quick succession on these amendments. The charities m...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 705 c1060-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 27: 27: Clause 221, page 130, line 26, at end insert ““, and (c) shall not be ...
Lord Brabazon of Tara | 705 c1041 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should point out that if this amendment is agreed to, I shall not be able to call Amendm...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 705 c1041-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to my three amendments in this group. I have no wish to repeat the arguments...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 705 c1040-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16: 16: Clause 209, page 121, line 27, leave out paragraph (b) The noble Lord...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 705 c1039-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister has, as always, been generous with her time and done her best to answer the q...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1040 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, may I put a correction on the record? In answering my nob...
Lord Woolmer of Leeds | 705 c1039 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I asked two specific questions. Where in the documents before the House is there an estima...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1039 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, probably the best that I can offer my noble friend at the moment is a quotation from the A...
Bishop of Southwell and Nottingham | 705 c1045 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, like other noble Lords, am most grateful to the Minister for the enormous energy that s...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1071 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before I move that the Bill do now pass, I shall say a warm thank you to everybody who has...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1071 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 31: 31: Clause 240, page 141, line 38, after ““sections”” insert ““(Good desig...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1068 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I really do not think that is comparable. As I said, it raises profound questions, not onl...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c1068 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will my noble friend explain why the Government felt it appropriate to set aside an existi...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1071 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 30: 30: Clause 239, page 140, line 39, leave out ““139”” and insert ““(Common ...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 705 c1068-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a deeply disappointing speech. Perhaps I must remind the Minister of the words tha...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1025-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, for interpreting and speaking to my amendment, wh...
Lord Jenkin of Roding | 705 c1065 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble and learned Lord is misreading the amendment. The words, "““During the period of...
Lord Boyd of Duncansby | 705 c1064 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not support the Government in the Lobbies on the vote last week. Although I was in t...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 705 c1040 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause 209 [Chari...
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 705 c1043-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my thanks to the Minister for the trouble she has taken, the letters she has written...
Earl of Caithness | 705 c1034 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is the only amendment on CIL, and I support my noble friend in what he said. It gives...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 705 c1065 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to intervene, but this is Third Reading and we are rapidly turning it into Comm...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 705 c1058 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 21: 21: Clause 209, page 121, line 39, leave out ““(1) or”” The noble Lord sa...
Baroness Andrews | 705 c1015 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Clause 12, page 7, line 17, leave out from ““statement”” to ““or”” in li...
Subjects
Devolved matters Charities Compulsory purchase Common land Design Delegated legislation National landscapes Housing Fees and charges Land EU law Infrastructure Exemptions Housing associations Freight Emergency services Land use Gardens Planning permission Police Planning Railways Parliamentary scrutiny Property development National parks Parliamentary privilege Scotland Regional planning and development Sustainable development Social rented housing Renewable energy Urban areas EU aid Planning gain supplement Infrastructure Planning Commission National policy statements Community infrastructure levy European Landscape Convention
Legislation
Planning Bill 2007-08
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