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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 24 March 2010, in the House of Lords.

Flood and Water Management Bill

Flood and Water Management Bill. Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 9 to 34 agreed to, with clause 15 agreed to as amended. Schedules 2 and 5 agreed to. Schedules 1, 3 and 4 agreed to as amended. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
718 c361-428GC 
Session
2009-10
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c428GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that this would be an appropriate moment for the Committee to adjourn to a date to...
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Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c406-7GC (Link to this contribution) 67: Schedule 1, page 40, line 15, at end insert— "( ) The first sets of regulations may not be made ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c407GC (Link to this contribution) 68: After Clause 32, insert the following new Clause— "Ownership and maintenance of sustainable urba...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c396GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment is an attempt to push the Minister into offering an interpretation of susta...
Lord Greaves | 718 c405GC (Link to this contribution) Before he does, perhaps I may refer to the proposals that the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, and I are su...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c390-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, has properly tabled amendments to allow us to debate regiona...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c379-81GC (Link to this contribution) Yesterday, I was rather worried that Amendment 49A was not on the Marshalled List. I am very glad in...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c378GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment 46, like Amendment 47, is in response to the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Commit...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c364GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the coast protection authority is defined in the Coast Protection Act 1949, and it is the ...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 718 c367-8GC (Link to this contribution) I have had to make a choice about to whom I am going to be discourteous. I want to speak in this deb...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c373GC (Link to this contribution) 44: Clause 14, page 11, line 22, leave out "information in connection with" and insert "such informa...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c373-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 44 is fairly straightforward. Clause 14 allows the Environment Agency and lead l...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c376GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for giving way. The custom of the House is that we do not vote down governmen...
Duke of Montrose | 718 c377GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for laying out so clearly where we will stand with the secondary legislation an...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 718 c420-1GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to detain the Committee at this late hour, but these are very important issues in the are...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c426-8GC (Link to this contribution) 89: Schedule 4, page 75, line 6, after "regulations" insert ", rules" 90: Schedule 4, page 75, lin...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c425-6GC (Link to this contribution) In that respect, the Bill does something. It extends the powers to enable releases from water compan...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) I think it would assist the Committee if the noble Lord moved the amendment.
Lord Greaves | 718 c417GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his careful and detailed response to all the amendments. On the general iss...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c398GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I accept that Clause 29 provides Ministers with the powers necessary to make orders to rea...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c398GC (Link to this contribution) 59: Clause 29, page 17, line 40, leave out "or another enactment"
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c395-6GC (Link to this contribution) 56A: After Clause 26, insert the following new Clause— "Regional Flood and Coastal Committees: plann...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c396GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his comments. I do not think there is a million miles of opinion between us...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c402-3GC (Link to this contribution) I agree with all the amendments in this grouping. They are similar to a degree and the Government ar...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c399GC (Link to this contribution) 60: Schedule 1, page 36, line 7, leave out "affects" and insert "is likely to have a material effect...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c383GC (Link to this contribution) 52: After Clause 18, insert the following new Clause— "Monthly recovery reports (1) Following a majo...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c386GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. In some ways it is encouraging, and in other ways it is a li...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c386GC (Link to this contribution) 53: Clause 22, page 15, line 1, after "a" insert "catchment based"
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c382GC (Link to this contribution) Let me begin by saying that it is all right for the noble Lord to be a little prickly when the noble...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c389-90GC (Link to this contribution) This amendment is intended to deal with projects to build on land which is a flood plain. The motive...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c389GC (Link to this contribution) I think that I am allowed to come in next to move my Amendment 56A.
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c392-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who have participated in this debate on an important issue. T...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 718 c388-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my question as to whether Clause 22 should stand part of the Bill is in this group. It was...
Lord Greaves | 718 c387-8GC (Link to this contribution) I have tabled Amendment 54 in this group. Before I speak to my amendment, I have very great sympathy...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c379GC (Link to this contribution) I fear that the final question of the noble Duke, the Duke of Montrose, is a bit above my pay grade....
Duke of Montrose | 718 c378GC (Link to this contribution) I speak to the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Taylor of Holbeach, Amendment 47. As th...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c378GC (Link to this contribution) 46: Clause 15, page 12, line 21, at end insert "to reflect a change in the value of money"
Duke of Montrose | 718 c378GC (Link to this contribution) We would like to know exactly what the noble Lord intends, because it has been a very well establish...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c372GC (Link to this contribution) Of course it does, but the difference is that the Environment Agency is charged with the national st...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c372-3GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that we can disapprove of the Minister in all sorts of ways and that the noble Lord, Lord ...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c374-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Cathcart, for giving us an opportunity to hold a small debate ...
Duke of Montrose | 718 c375GC (Link to this contribution) 45: Clause 15, page 12, line 19, at end insert— "( ) Any regulations under subsection (8) may not be...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c375GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for explaining the Government’s point of view. At this stage, I beg leave to wi...
Duke of Montrose | 718 c375GC (Link to this contribution) I move this amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Taylor. I will also move the others in his...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c376-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not wish to intrude on a slightly unpleasant private argument between the two opposit...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 718 c361GC (Link to this contribution) 23: Clause 9, page 7, line 8, at end insert— "( ) the breach or over-topping of a sea-wall"
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c363-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened with some puzzlement to what the Minister has said. I made the point very ...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c362-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for moving his amendment, and I hope that I can reassure t...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 718 c418GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when can I move my amendments? Amendments 84A and 84B stand in my name and I should like t...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c417GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, thank the Minister for his detailed response to the amendments, and indeed it does reflect t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c417-8GC (Link to this contribution) 71: Schedule 3, page 53, line 21, leave out "a specified area" and insert "all areas or in one or mo...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c421-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my three amendments in this group relate to arbitrary costs being imposed on those who try...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 718 c422-3GC (Link to this contribution) I want to add only a little to what has been said. There is a world of difference between the circum...
Duke of Montrose | 718 c426GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for covering as much as he could, although a great many other points came up. I...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 718 c428GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned to a date to be agreed.
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c424-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to this important debate. I am conscious of th...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 718 c425GC (Link to this contribution) They may have regard to what my noble friend just referred to, but equally they must have regard to ...
Lord Greaves | 718 c405GC (Link to this contribution) That is a slightly disappointing response in that it is a bit weak that the Government will "conside...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) I can help the noble Lord. As the amendment was in a group—
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) I believe that the noble Lord, Lord Cameron, should move his amendment if he subsequently wishes to ...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c405GC (Link to this contribution) 63: Schedule 1, page 36, line 37, at end insert ", and that risk outweighs the social, economic or e...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) I am happy to write to the noble Lord on the points that he has made.
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) I repeat the words I used when I spoke to the amendment as a way of speaking to it.
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) 65A: Schedule 1, page 39, line 36, leave out "Lands Tribunal" and insert "Upper Tribunal" Amendment...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c407-8GC (Link to this contribution) We move into somewhat different territory here. This group of amendments concerns sustainable urban ...
Lord Greaves | 718 c408-11GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have five amendments in this group. I very much welcome the amendments that the Conserva...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 718 c411-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 70. I commend the Government for bringing forward the SUDS legis...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c412-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this significant debate. I am grateful to the no...
Lord Greaves | 718 c398GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I put down the question as to whether Clause 29 should stand part of the Bill, I had ...
Earl of Selborne | 718 c403GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before the Minister responds to that very powerful contribution, I would like to add my pe...
Lord Greaves | 718 c401-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two amendments in this group, which overlap to some extent with the amendments in t...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c382-3GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I seemed to be difficult. That is the last thing in the world I wish to appear to this...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c394GC (Link to this contribution) Will the relevant information be made available to those who are considering purchasing houses? Of c...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c386-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for harping on like a bad gramophone record that is stuck in the groove about ...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c379GC (Link to this contribution) 48: Clause 15, page 12, line 35, at end insert— "( ) The first sets of regulations under subsection ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c364GC (Link to this contribution) 27: Clause 9, page 7, line 27, leave out "be consistent with" and insert "have regard to"
Baroness Byford | 718 c369GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may seek clarity from the Minister. I thank the noble Baroness for raising the q...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 718 c371GC (Link to this contribution) I think that I understand what my noble friend is saying: a conflict may arise over the use of resou...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 718 c361-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments has a serious purpose. I hasten to assure the Minister that these...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c362GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have added my name to that of my noble friend Lord Dixon-Smith in these two amendments w...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c362GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support these amendments. Without wishing to belittle the damage to property that has oc...
Lord Colwyn | 718 c361GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, should there be a Division in the Chamber, the Committee will adjourn for 10 minutes. Cla...
Duke of Montrose | 718 c419-20GC (Link to this contribution) As I say, I am sorry that he is not in his place because this is where the question of what powers t...
Duke of Montrose | 718 c418GC (Link to this contribution) 82: Schedule 4, page 63, line 7, leave out "10,000" and insert "25,000"
Duke of Montrose | 718 c418-9GC (Link to this contribution) On behalf of my noble friend Lord Taylor of Holbeach, I beg to move Amendment 82 and speak to the ot...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c418GC (Link to this contribution) 79: Schedule 3, page 61, line 15, at end insert— "( ) The first sets of regulations may not be made ...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 718 c423GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to stand between noble Lords and their dinners but I want to give a brief histo...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c405GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Government will take on board the advice of the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, because I ...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c405-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply, but I have to say that under normal circumstances I would not be...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c406GC (Link to this contribution) I am happy to withdraw the amendment, if that is appropriate. Amendment 63 not moved. Amendments 6...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c408GC (Link to this contribution) I have a quick probing question of my own following on from my earlier comment. In my area, there is...
Baroness Byford | 718 c412GC (Link to this contribution) I was not going to speak, but as this is likely to be our last day in Committee on the Bill, I would...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c396GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not surprised that the noble Lord has brought the issue up and nor will he be surpris...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c396-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not surprised that the Minister has not risen to my challenge to give a quotable defi...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c394-5GC (Link to this contribution) I thank noble Lords for the support I have received from all quarters for my amendments. I also than...
Earl Cathcart | 718 c396GC (Link to this contribution) 57: Clause 27, page 16, line 16, after "must" insert ", within one month of the day on which this se...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c403-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken to this important group of amendments. I can reass...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c400-1GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 30, which gives effect to Schedule 1, allows a designating authority to designate a feature i...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c399GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that explanation. I had no wish to alarm him. On coming to this place, I le...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c398-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, for that comment. I hope that I can repay him with th...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c383-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Minister is convinced that the only reason we pursued the debate on the la...
Baroness Byford | 718 c384GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend's amendment. None of us will forget the scenes that we saw on ou...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c384-5GC (Link to this contribution) I certainly agree that this is a well-intentioned amendment. What the noble Lord wishes to achieve i...
Baroness Byford | 718 c385GC (Link to this contribution) I hope I am right in thinking that the Minister said that my noble friend’s amendment required the i...
Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 718 c385-6GC (Link to this contribution) I made the point, however, that Ministers are accountable to Parliament, and if Parliament feels tha...
Lord Geddes | 718 c389GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Knight, may speak to it, but as to moving it, it will be taken in sequentia...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c394GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I emphasise in this respect the significant responsibility of the Environment Agency, whic...
Baroness Knight of Collingtree | 718 c379GC (Link to this contribution) 49A: Clause 18, page 13, line 17, at end insert— "( ) The Minister must, as soon as practicable afte...
Lord Greaves | 718 c378GC (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Duke withdraws the amendment, perhaps I may say that he is agreeing with the point ...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c381-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Knight’s amendment, which calls for the Environment Agency’...
Lord Greaves | 718 c367GC (Link to this contribution) As a militant localist, I have considerable sympathy with the proposition put forward by the noble L...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 718 c364-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 27 I wish to speak also to the other amendments in my name in this gro...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 718 c364GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I certainly would not have expected to put down a perfectly worded amendment that made abs...
Lord Cameron of Dillington | 718 c369GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I suspect that it will come as no surprise, in the light of my previously stated concerns ...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 718 c368-9GC (Link to this contribution) Last week when we debated Amendment 14 and the amendments grouped with it, I indicated that I would ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c369-71GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this important debate. If the noble Ba...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 718 c372GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have concluded my remarks, but it is the first time that I can recall a noble Lord walki...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 718 c372GC (Link to this contribution) I think I am being summoned back to the Chamber. I do not want to be discourteous.
Lord Greaves | 718 c375-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was waiting for the Minister to speak, because Amendment 80 in my name is an amendment t...
Baroness Byford | 718 c377GC (Link to this contribution) I am sorry—I have lost five days. It seems a long time ago. To do something four years down the line...
Baroness Byford | 718 c377GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his explanation, although obviously I support my noble friend’s amendment. ...
Lord Greaves | 718 c376GC (Link to this contribution) I will respond briefly—I do not want to waste too much time on this. Historically, the House of Lord...
Subjects
Disclosure of information Conservation Construction Coastal areas Buildings Coastal erosion Housing Flood control Infrastructure Land drainage Inland waterways Environment Agency Floods Planning Railways Sustainable development Wales Urban areas Sewers Reservoirs Internal drainage boards
Legislation
Flood and Water Management Bill 2009-10
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